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ajdover

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« Reply #15 on: November 17, 2006, 03:55:07 AM »
Most of the original thread dealt with how much Alembic charges for the same things others use, e.g., wood, hardware, etc.  The basic premise is that every manufacturer uses the same wood, etc., so why does Alembic charge more than, say, Fender for swamp ash, or Fodera for Buckeye Burl?
 
I can't comment as to the reason.  I do know this - I visited the factory in person.  These guys make their own tools.  They handwire everything.  Shaping is done by hand, as is finishing.  Frets aren't put in by a machine, they're done by hand.  All of this costs a lot of money.  Some can pay it, some can't.  So be it.
 
Can you buy a bass for less that will bring you the same amount of pleasure and enjoyment?  Sure.  I guess for some of the problem is the inability to justify it, and that translates to what we've seen here - if one can't justify it, it must be overpriced, overrated, etc.
 
There have been discussions that Alembic owners are hobbyists with money, and there are many here who fit that designation.  However, there have been too many famous players past and present who played/still play Alembics for this moniker to accrue.  Folks will buy what they like and can afford, period.  I've repeatedly said that a bass, any bass, is only worth what someone's willing to pay.  If an Alembic isn't worth it to other folks, fine.  Buy and play what you like.  For me and many others here, an Alembic is worth every penny.  I'll continue to play and buy them, and the naysayers be damned.
 
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« Reply #16 on: November 17, 2006, 07:11:21 AM »
The are all talking crap..here is a story for you..
A 'friend'(no more due to personal infrigement in my husband/wife relationship) always ridiculed my 'coffee table' as he called it. He always went on about his fender jazz bass and how good it was!!!!
The one day he asked to borrow my Alembic MK standard to use in a recording studio.
He is one of theses guys who talks the talk..we call him 'trousers' because he talks through them.
Obviously he was going to play in front of some pro musicians and wanted to impress.
I told him to get lost, the only way my Alembic leaves the house is with me firmly attached to it and I added he should use his absolutley fantastic jazz bass since it was so good.
Sorry but those who ridicule do not know what they are like and if they look life quality furniture then display them with pride in your home

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« Reply #17 on: November 17, 2006, 07:17:25 AM »
The are all talking crap..here is a story for you..
A 'friend' always ridiculed my 'coffee table' as he called it. He always went on about his fender jazz bass and how good it was!!!!
The one day he asked to borrow my Alembic MK standard to use in a recording studio.
He is one of theses guys who talks the talk..we call him 'trousers' because he talks through them.
Obviously he was going to play in front of some pro musicians and wanted to impress.
I told him to get lost, the only way my Alembic leaves the house is with me firmly attached to it and I added he should use his absolutley fantastic jazz bass since it was so good.
Sorry but those who ridicule do not know what they are like and if they look like quality furniture then display them with pride in your home

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« Reply #18 on: November 17, 2006, 07:19:36 AM »
so good I sent it twice..dumb oh

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« Reply #19 on: November 17, 2006, 07:32:42 AM »
I'm with Joey, to each his own.  
 
To all those guys on that forum that were knocking Alembic I have but one piece of advice, smoke less crack and play more bass(or guitar).

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« Reply #20 on: November 17, 2006, 08:57:20 AM »
what most fail to remember is that alembic WAS THE FIRST totally Custom electric stereo instrument available in the early 70's/late 60's....so alembic started this whole trend of high-end electric guitars & all these other companies took note and followed their lead. & also alembic deserves all the credit for the High-end guitar market....but like the saying goes to each is own!

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« Reply #21 on: November 17, 2006, 09:22:16 AM »
I like my Alembic, it's the best bass I've ever owned, hands down. And for various reasons, I've also liked every bass I've ever owned, including the Korean-made, Fender knock-off that got me started 28 years ago.
I've made a decision to play Alembic. I've made a decision to not let the reasoning of others bother me if they choose to disagree or outright dismiss me. Mine is the best for me, yours is the best for you. I prefer to leave it at that.
Personaly, I'm not even going to get stirred up by this. And it doesn't do any good for The Club to go nuts with fits of indignation - unless you plan to do sometihng about it, as did Duncan. And if you do, Duncan's approach is the best - inoffensive and informative. The worst -there's nothing like a beligerant, foul-mouthed buffoon to proove the opposition's point.
 
Terry's story is pretty funny.

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« Reply #22 on: November 17, 2006, 09:33:00 AM »
Very well put Mike and I concur with you indubitably.  
 
Besides, I don?t know small enough words to argue with those guys.

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« Reply #23 on: November 17, 2006, 10:45:24 AM »
I notice those guys in the other forum were knocking Alembic BASSES.  Not a single negative word about GUITARS!  Guitarists are obviously a kinder, gentler, more enlightened breed!  LOL
 
Bill, tgo - SIESTBMOBS
 
(sometimes I even start to believe my own BS!)

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« Reply #24 on: November 17, 2006, 11:22:48 AM »
Bill, you're tough man!

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« Reply #25 on: November 17, 2006, 12:23:52 PM »
Bill,
Most guitarists I know go for the classic market. That may be why you don't see any Alembic guitar bashing. Their all in love with their Les Pauls and Stratocasters.

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« Reply #26 on: November 17, 2006, 12:40:17 PM »
Wow - another thread on the same topic:
 
Here
 
I believe my Alembics are a great value for the expensive price.  I am glad to support such a company with my hard earned money.
 
We have people paying $2-3k for a Sony PS3 that will be obsolete in 3 years and tossed.  My Alembics will still be going long after.
 
T
 
(oops!  I didn't mean to circle it back here...)
 
(Message edited by lidon2001 on November 17, 2006)
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« Reply #27 on: November 17, 2006, 12:54:18 PM »
Right on Tom, and we don't have to camp out 3 days for an Alembic.

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« Reply #28 on: November 17, 2006, 01:11:48 PM »
with alembic you get what you pay for and then some. i have no problem with those that charge less. they know what there stuff is worth.--------Chuck

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« Reply #29 on: November 17, 2006, 03:54:42 PM »
You either intuitively grasp the Alembic state of mind or you don't. Many don't.  Some people don't get the Ferrari ethos either.  More's the pity for them.
 
As for comments there that Alembics do not play or sound better than any other top-quality basses, these are from people who can't tell the difference between silk and burlap or who possess defective senses.
 
No point in arguing with 'em.  Some of these characters would happily lay down $10K on an old Jazz just because it's old.  Leo may have invented the electric bass guitar but the Wickershams have perfected it.
 
Paul  (just sayin')