Author Topic: LG is leaving for real (Read 701 times)

88persuader · « **Reply #30 on:** December 14, 2006, 08:42:48 PM »

rklistme ... I don't believe any group of people or forum including this one has EVER been or ever will be forgiving or none judgemental. If we didn't want our opinion heard and if we didn't feel qualified to judge ... you and I would have never responded to this thread. We're only human ... but we're trying to get better! :-) Peace!

the_8_string_king · « **Reply #31 on:** December 14, 2006, 11:05:27 PM »

quote: It is amazing to me how pompus this club has become. No, but it is annoying to see such a claim offered without evidence.

quote: If someone wants to leave and make a lot of noise about it for whatever reason, that is their business. If they want to delete their profile to make a statement that is their business. If they choose to go away quietly that is their business. If they choose to come back and participate that is their business. If they only choose to read quietly in the shadows that is their business.

True. And if club members want to discuss the behavior -especially the obnoxious, offensive, and out-of-line behavior of such a person, that is also, by the same token, their business as well, ISN'T IT?

quote: You guys sit around like a bunch of old ladies waiting for someone to slip up in your opionion so that you can make disparaging remarks and feel better about yourselves.

Wow. That's quite a statement. Who are you guys? I haven't seen any evidence of this... certainly not enough to support such a generalization. Evidence? Examples? Seems to me a fella should provide such if he's gonna put other people down... if he's gonna make DISPARAGING REMARKS. Who precisely is putting others down to feel good about himself?

quote: That is not a real Alembic, Where I buy my Alembic is nicer than where you get yours, My ebony lams and 15 strings are better than your four string whatchamajig!

Who or what is this describing? I don't see any evidence of this, period -much less enough to support a sweeping, DISPARAGING generalization.

quote: It is funny that you are doing exactly what you have accused someone else of doing.

Again, who is you, and what specific examples of this alleged hypocrisy can you point to, to support this DISPARAGING generalization?

quote: Which brings me to the conclusion that people doing this are more after making a statement and want to be heard! Isn't that why we all are here?

You lost me. But then I didn't see any reasoning to follow in the first place -to form the conclusion.

quote: Whatever happened to the Alembic site that was all forgiving and none judging?

What a package-deal! Some people MAY deserve to be forgiven; some people clearly do not. It depends on the specifics. And if you feel that judging is bad... THAN WHY ARE YOU DOING IT?

quote: I guess all good things must come to an end!

Non-sequitur.

The funny thing is that, if I attempt to play Devil's Advocate, the best and only example I can find to support your generalization regarding pompousness, disparaging remarks, and putting other people down to feel good about one's self... is YOUR post.

Funny, huh?

adriaan · « **Reply #32 on:** December 15, 2006, 01:55:36 AM »

Mark (The_8_string_king), you may have gone a little overboard there.

Rory, you certainly have a point about the danger of the club growing a little pompous here and there. Let's all work to keep out the snobbery - pride will do.

jsaylor · « **Reply #33 on:** December 15, 2006, 06:01:01 AM »

I'm just tired of seeing people keep talking about how David did a good job. I think I'm missing something. What did LG do offensively? This is a small forum, so exits are acceptable. Now I'm on a large forum quite often, www.pbnation.com. 15th largest forum with usually over 2500 members on at a time. On a forum like that, you don't see that, or the typical response would be go drink bleach.

(Message edited by j.saylor on December 15, 2006)

the_8_string_king · « **Reply #34 on:** December 15, 2006, 06:27:13 AM »

How so?

the_8_string_king · « **Reply #35 on:** December 15, 2006, 06:31:55 AM »

Jordon, if you read the midrange thread LG started, and see the tone he takes and comments he makes towards club members, it should be self-evident why people were offended.

It starts out civilized... but as it goes on... well, if you read it, and his other rambling threads that explicitly insult people... it should be clear.

Dave exhibited unusual sensitivity and diplomacy in the situation -IMO.

adriaan · « **Reply #36 on:** December 15, 2006, 07:01:52 AM »

Mark, I have to agree with Rory about us getting a little pompous now and then. I know I am, occasionally.

811952 · « **Reply #37 on:** December 15, 2006, 07:02:09 AM »

Rory,

You guys sit around like a bunch of old ladies

I'm busted!

John

lbpesq · « **Reply #38 on:** December 15, 2006, 07:15:43 AM »

Hey, how about last night's 49er/Seahawks game! Alex Smith is finally looking like he's for real. Go Niners!

Bill, tgo

mikedm · « **Reply #39 on:** December 15, 2006, 07:42:10 AM »

It's not the same club as when I first posted almost four years ago. Not better, not worse, just different. As people come and go so goes the club's personality.
The main reason I began to participate is directly attributed to the behavior and personalitites of certain members, members that have become infrequent visitors, by the way.
The fact that the moderators have the authority and access to modify/delete postings ought to tell everyone that there is an accepted/understood baseline to adhere to.
Rory's point is valid. A fence, however benevolent and politely constructed is still a fence. A periodic, introspective accounting is worthwhile. Guilty as charged.

Mike

hankster · « **Reply #40 on:** December 15, 2006, 01:52:29 PM »

I think I am going out on my motorbike to buy some beer.

Rick

dannobasso · « **Reply #41 on:** December 15, 2006, 02:17:23 PM »

May you ride in safety and joy.

bsee · « **Reply #42 on:** December 15, 2006, 03:14:32 PM »

I sat this one out so far, but it's getting too good. As far as LG goes, he represented himself as unusually needy and demanding relative to the typical club member. To me, that's a combination that can create bad feelings. I thought Mica went way beyond the call of duty to assist him in putting together a bunch of second-hand parts into a configuration for which they weren't designed.

It is what it is.

lbpesq · « **Reply #43 on:** December 15, 2006, 03:40:21 PM »

Personally I didn't appreciate a relative newby who didn't even own an Alembic putting me down because I didn't jump to download his player. My two impressions of the entire situation:

1. LG was inappropriately negative/confrontational;

2. The members, led by our own imitable modder Dave, for the most part responded with admirable restraint and class.

I think the subsequent hey, I missed it, what happened? posts may actually be creating more waves than the original storm.

All I am saying is give peas a chance.

Hempy Holidaze everyone,

Bill, tgo

inthelows · « **Reply #44 on:** December 15, 2006, 04:36:40 PM »

Does anybody here think its time to archive this thread and move on?
Can I get a second on this motion?
NLP