Author Topic: Documentary on Mark King (Read 263 times)

jacko · « **Reply #15 on:** January 23, 2007, 12:57:42 AM »

Jordan...
Just goes to show you, the greatist use 4 stringers.
Even Jeff Berlin has climbed down off that high horse in the latest issue of Bass Player. What about the likes of Jimmy Johnson, Nathan East, Bill dickens, Steve lawson, Trip Walmsley, Steve Bailey etc. Heck, even Victor Wooten plays 5 string fretless and he's probably considered about the best of the crop these days. The trouble with your '4 strings good, anything else bad' attitude is that you close your mind to so much. Try it, you might grow to like it, then again you might not, but at the very least you should appreciate that everyone has their own way of making music. Considering Jaco Pastorius was experimenting with loops and effects pedals, it would be a fair assumption that he would have tried extra strings had he lived.

Dave, i'm surprised John didn't get a nomination for best upright player too. I saw him with Wayne Shorter and his playing was astounding.

Back on topic, When I saw Level 42 in November, it was definitely Black Electrical tape.

graeme

keurosix · « **Reply #16 on:** January 23, 2007, 06:11:01 AM »

Hey guys,
In Jordon's defense, I don't think he really meant anything serious in his comment. For instance, his first posts (albeit slightly opiniated) were about Alembic making ERB's (Extended range basses). I've come to recognise his writing style, and he has brought up some really good points and even some great websites for us to enjoy. Here's hoping he scores his very own Alembic bass this year so he can become a strong convert!
Kris

dannobasso · « **Reply #17 on:** January 23, 2007, 09:17:07 AM »

Depending on mood, I sometimes respond to opinion posts as who cares? If you are playing and are inspired and have the axe of your choosing, that is a huge plus in life. Any number of strings, makes , models, amps etc, is the spice of life. But some folks only like an old family recipe. (I happen to prefer hippie sandwiches with lights)Heated exchanges are often negative in their energy (I am also guilty of this as well) and I'm trying to increase my positive vibe in the musical world. Play what you want, buy what you want, listen to what you want and try to be happy. Tape, fingers, tapping, slapping, picks, effects etc. whatever it take for you to be inspired is good for you. Try out whatever you can to further your skills, or master what you really love. Either way keep playing.
Please try to restrain from putting sand into the vasoline of life by always saying the emperor has no clothes when it doesn't really matter.
MK has touched many lives and brought a lot of joy to the bass playing world myself included. I really enjoyed watching the videos posted here. Keep them coming youtube folks! What an amazing thing to make your living playing your music on your terms for a good portion of your adult life. (And having several makers produce a model named after you!) Bravo Mr. King and those who have come after you.
(Keep in mind that he also chews gum like a maniac when he plays too!)

5stringho · « **Reply #18 on:** January 23, 2007, 10:33:46 AM »

Blazer,

Thankx for the links! Very informative and entertaining!

The 'Ho...

jsaylor · « **Reply #19 on:** January 23, 2007, 02:09:31 PM »

Jacko and Dave,
I'm not that close minded. I ment to say for slap bass. Anyone try to slap on E on a 5 string? Whole new ball game. However, since we are on the subject, how much is too much? Seeing as you mentioned Bill Dickens, his 7 string is tuned B E A D G C F. How high does it go before it is no longer a bass? Some argue that aslong as it has EADG it is a bass, but then, Is a Full range guitar (9-13 strings)a bass aswell? Finding your own personal style is good, but I believe alot of people believe more is better. While Jean Baudin has inspired me to play ERB with his song Transcend I have realized that while I like that song, it isn't something I sit down to and listen to. I personally am a Rock/Metal/Punk fan so naturally thats what I'm going to play. Maybe once I'm loaded, I can have Alembic make me a double neck guitar with 4 or 5 string bass(MAYBE...MAYBE a 6). Just remember, it's all personal style, not how big or how many guns (strings)you have.

-Jordan

inthelows · « **Reply #20 on:** January 23, 2007, 04:24:45 PM »

But then again some believe size matters Jordan! hahaha

I sometimes respond to opinion posts as who cares? I wonder if apathy is running rampant. Just a general comment and not directed at dannobasso. The I, me, mine, syndrome whether dealing with personal posessions or one's overwhelming sense of self importance has always been around and is a difficult chain to break.
I started looking at this forum because most contributions were smacked of a little humor, a lot of knowledge, and a wealth of implied talent across the planet. By implied I mean players playing at whatever the level, style, event, and equipment and willing to talk about it. Since its difficult to assess talent via the typed page, I'll use the term implied tallent. I agree in principle that the henpecking and negative vibe takes away from the fun of exchanging ideas. What was that song...LET IT RIDE?
People trying out new styles, new equipment, and new approaches are what should be applauded here.
Mark King Rocks. There may be many pretenders to the throne, but I don't see their names in the spotlight. The ones pushing the envelope and sticking it out seem to get rewarded by public acceptance and recognition, after years of sweating it out.
It is humbling to know that there is so much more to learn, if you're willing to listen. And maybe there is some truth to the Peter Principle where-by you go as far as you can go until you prove your own incompetence.(short version)
What's my point. Say what you what, be considerate and patient, not everone's at your level. Mark King Rocks. If it's a who care's moment, look in the mirror and ask the question again.
NLP

dannobasso · « **Reply #21 on:** January 23, 2007, 08:42:59 PM »

The who cares is not really apathy. It is a response to a negative post trying to chip away at an artist or individual. Meaning, why put something out there if it does not enrich the community here? But that can be viewed as a negative. So, I'll end with an Irish joke.
Paddy limps into the bar and says to Michael the bartender, Give me a double sez I, I'm just back frum a battle wit' da missus!
Go on so says Michael.
Well, Paddy replies, When I saw her last she was coming ta me on her hands and knees wringing her hands!
Thats a bit of a change fer ya Paddy! sez Michael.What did she say to ya?

Get out frum under da bed ya great fat chicken! Said she!

olieoliver · « **Reply #22 on:** January 23, 2007, 09:19:18 PM »

Mark is most definitely an awesome player, thanks for the video links.
After talking to Susan a few weeks ago she mentioned something about Mark using a very light gauge set of strings on his basses. I?ve always played 45-105 on my 4?s and 45-130 on my 5?s. My conversation with Susan got me to thinking about trying a lighter set, (on my Thumb Bass first in case I didn?t like them), and so far I really like them.

(Hey Danno, checked out the bands web site, very cool the myspace pix were intense too. If you guys ever come DFW way, let me know.)

David Houck · « **Reply #23 on:** January 23, 2007, 09:40:01 PM »

Kris wrote, I don't think he really meant anything serious in his comment ... I've come to recognise his writing style.

Thanks Kris, it appears that I took the comment a bit too literally.

And Kris further wrote, For instance, his first posts .. were about Alembic making ERB's (Extended range basses).

I had completely forgotten that!

Danno wrote, Heated exchanges are often negative in their energy ... and I'm trying to increase my positive vibe in the musical world.

I like that!! Thanks!

jacko · « **Reply #24 on:** January 24, 2007, 01:08:44 AM »

Hey Jordan. I didn't mean to suggest that you were close minded, merely trying to point out that there are a great many extended range players out there (and like Dave, i'd forgotten that you came on this forum seeking ERB opinions in the first place). No offence was intended.
I've got to pick you up on one thing though.. I regularly slap down to low B, both fretted and fretless(which gives an interesting feel to slap, just listen to Bakithi Kumala on 'you can call me Al').

Graeme

paulman · « **Reply #25 on:** January 24, 2007, 07:18:12 AM »

I discovered Gaffers tape about 9 months ago, now we don't gig without it! It's much more manageable than Duc(t or k) tape.

jsaylor · « **Reply #26 on:** January 25, 2007, 04:09:08 AM »

Jacko,
What guages do you use to slap? I use 130-45 and the 130 seems a bit big. Any string reconemdations?
-Jordan

keavin · « **Reply #27 on:** January 25, 2007, 04:14:37 AM »

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keavin · « **Reply #28 on:** January 25, 2007, 04:15:03 AM »

for more meat when thumping i'de recomend heavy gauge strings.....the fatter strings gives you more ass (bottom)to your sound!

jacko · « **Reply #29 on:** January 25, 2007, 04:20:05 AM »

Hi Jordan.
i'm currently using DR 45 - 125s red devils and Peacock Blues. Before the last string change i was using their Marcus Miller fat beams, same guage but they sounded a bit better for slap.

graeme