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glocke

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« on: March 23, 2007, 03:55:46 PM »
Its probably been at least 6 months since Ive picked up either of my jazz basses (a '72 and a '64).  All I can say is what an amazing differnce....The alembic with its tonal range and capabilites seriously outperforms the middy jazz basses....
 
At one time (before I got an alembic), I was into and got the whole jazz bass thing...but to my ears anymore there is just no comparison.

Bradley Young

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« Reply #1 on: March 23, 2007, 04:32:31 PM »
Gregory,
 
I can PM you my shipping address.  You won't have to worry about that sound anymore.  
 
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« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2007, 04:47:51 PM »
he-he....
 
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« Reply #3 on: March 23, 2007, 05:31:55 PM »
Apples and Oranges.  They have so little in common, they really shouldn't be compared side by side.

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« Reply #4 on: March 24, 2007, 11:47:00 AM »
Absolutely!
 
Where should I send the check?

mcdonap

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« Reply #5 on: March 25, 2007, 05:25:03 AM »
I agree.  I haven't had much desire to play any of my other basses since I got my Alembics.  I feel like almost all my others basses have a blanket thrown on them, sound-wise, compared to the Alembics.
 
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« Reply #6 on: March 25, 2007, 06:46:53 AM »
I too am selling all but 2 of my non Alembics. 1 because it has signature guts and the other because its a 12. So if you are looking for a Dean Bromberg 5, Ripper 4, Tbird 4, also guitars: RED Esquire gt, Schecter 7, Hamer w/emgs.  
 
Funny you mention boat oars. A number of years back a would be rock star was working at Ash. That was just after they stopped stocking high end basses. When I went in to see what they had, I spoke with the Paul Stanley look alike. I asked why they didn't carry Alembics anymore.  Look man, nobody plays those boat oars anymore, they just look stupid. Thats when I started ordering from Washington Music.  
 
Hey we could all get together and start a theme resturant and hang all the basses we don't need anymore on the walls. The Hard Pluck Cafe? The Managed Care for Wayward Basses Bistro? The Bottomless Resturant and repair - string change and intonnation while  you eat! The ARCO Lounge, enjoy our finger-style menu. ............................

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« Reply #7 on: March 25, 2007, 02:46:10 PM »
Nobody who would get it could afford to eat there.
 
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« Reply #8 on: March 25, 2007, 04:17:59 PM »
Like many, It is hard not to draw the same conclusion. Like being deaf and suddenly being able to hear for the first time.  
Call it being spoiled or just plain picky, but my Spoiler has a personality and sound the other basses in my collection simply cannot equal.
I'm currently saving up for my dream bass. But that's a ways off yet. Problem with me is I play them all and hand them down to my kids. I really don't sell them as much as hand them off to the next generation. Which explains why I don't have the money now to get what I want built!
Patience, patience...
Love the idea of wall art though...
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« Reply #9 on: March 26, 2007, 06:12:19 AM »
Found out one of my bosses was an old beer-joint bass player like me (cool!).  He's still got the itch, and recently bought a M-I-Cali Jazz.  Brought the BigRedBass in to the office for him to see (he was stunned), and he remarked he wished his new Jazz played that easily.  So I offered to adjust his axe.  He brought it in and I took it home and set his action/re-strung on a day off.
 
Well . . . they're not completely 'noiseless' pickups!  But it was pretty well made for 'off the rack', nothing just jumped out at me QC-wise.
But it was so strange as I hadn't had a four around the house forever, and of course Jazzes have a very slim neck, which made it seem even more 'four-ish'.
 
It basically just needed the once-over most usually need after they come home from the store.
It did seem wierd having to adjust each saddle at a time, hoping the nut was correct as it couldn't be adjusted.  At least the truss rod came out at the head instead of the pickguard.  Geez, I'm spoiled.  But it was immediately aggravating to realize this brand new bass $STILL$ needed a better shielding job, and ultimately, stack pickups, to be completely quiet.
 
Apples and oranges for sure.  But it played like butter when I gave it back to him, he was tickled.  But in the back of my mind it dawned on me that there's zillions of players just like him that just don't know any better.  What a shame.
 
J o e y

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« Reply #10 on: March 26, 2007, 07:50:02 AM »
As far as I'm concerned, the bass tone spectrum is three-pronged:
 
Prong 1:  Rickenbacker/P Bass honk
 
Prong 2:  Jazz Bass mids
 
Prong 3:  Alembic clean
 
With each of these three basses, I feel like I can cover most tonal ranges and playing situations.
 
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« Reply #11 on: March 26, 2007, 11:26:39 AM »
I agree with Rami; Apples & oranges. A variety of basses to satisfy my A.D.D...

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« Reply #12 on: March 26, 2007, 11:55:44 AM »
Just following on from Joey's comments about set up and people not realising there is more to be had from their guitar or bass. Not every instrument is as adjustable as an Alembic, but as Joey has proved, there is more there if you know how to find it and for the price of a set of strings Dan Erlewine's book - How to make your electric guitar play great is a really good investment. Although it's primarily focused on guitars, there's a lot you can transfer to bass set up.
 
If you've not read it, I can certainly recommend it.
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« Reply #13 on: March 27, 2007, 02:24:16 AM »
Love the 'Boat Oars' description for Alembics, my MK standard has been referred to a  'coffee table' on numerous occasions.
Have mentioned before elswhere in this section that I put P/J acitvators with twin vols, bass & treble in a jap Squier(1983), it was a lovely bass as I had added a Badass II bridge and I set it up to play very easy as everyone who had a go on it said the action was incredible..a little work goes a long way..I mean you wouldn't drive your car for years without a service!!
The activators totally changed the sound, suddenly the tone spectrum became huge.
It now enjoys being thrashed by my son in his EMO band.

glocke

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« Reply #14 on: March 27, 2007, 03:11:12 PM »
Never heard alembics described as boat oars, but I have gotten somewhat negative comments when I bring out my series I, and have had people ask me to bring my jazz basses to practice instead of my series I (which I dont)...
 
I think many people who do not understand Alembics are put off by them...I have a skylark that I bought a few years back, and I let a guitar player play it for a bit...He spent the next couple of practices trying to explain to me why his carvin is a better guitar...
 
As for the Jazz v.s. Alembic comparison, its still comparing one bass to another to me, and these days, I find the jazz basses much to middy for my taste...Ill probably hold onto them for a bit longer, but if I had to sell instruments, the jazz basses would be the first to go...