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Re: Optimistically priced Exploiter on Reverb
« Reply #30 on: July 16, 2021, 09:10:00 AM »
Love it. A Distillate Exploiter is kind of a dream Alembic for me. I have a "regular" Distillate that is actually a rare long scale. I never turn off the bass boost. Treble stays flat and Q switch generally off, but sometimes on.

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Re: Optimistically priced Exploiter on Reverb
« Reply #31 on: July 16, 2021, 09:48:05 AM »
yeah it took me a minute to figure out the controls.  i like a lot of bite to my tone which is why i favor rotosounds.  i usually set the tone(s) wide open and let my fingers do the rest.   one thing that throws me a little about this setup is that the volume control is by the bridge where it's a little harder to reach while i'm playing.  i might think about swapping its position with the tone control if it doesn't involve a lot of brain damage in the process.

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I actually think this customer didn't want the backplates replaced, so there may be some wear on them....
yeah the backplates are pretty rough on this instrument.  gotta wonder what the rest of the bass looked like before the refin.  it's pristine now, which was one of its selling points. truss rod nuts are a little beat up, but the neck has just a skosh of relief,  action's nice and low, frets are good, the fingerboard spiffed right up after some lemon oil.  what's not to like about that?
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Re: Optimistically priced Exploiter on Reverb
« Reply #32 on: July 16, 2021, 10:13:37 AM »
I actually purchased it prior to you and am the reason it went off Reverb for a few weeks, the seller took 5 days to ship it out and I reconsidered prior to him shipping it and he was quick to refund my purchase (just not to put it back on line for sale again). I saw the Spectrum get listed and jumped on it versus buying another bass (I have a few already, so this was more an impulse buy). I'm betting Alembic would be happy to sell you a new back plate :)

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Re: Optimistically priced Exploiter on Reverb
« Reply #33 on: July 17, 2021, 04:38:37 PM »
Very nice, congratulations!  :)

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« Reply #34 on: July 19, 2021, 04:23:25 AM »
So we spent the weekend together.  Had some issues. I noticed that the tone of this bass isn't as snappy as I expected it to be, even with a fresh set of rotosounds on it.  Did some fiddling with the pickup selector (got a selector switch but no pan control so it's pretty much all or nothing) and noticed the bridge pickup output was a lot weaker than the neck.  Not a problem, because I know the outputs are adjustable inside the control cavity.  I should've known something was up because after I adjusted the pickup level, all of a sudden the LED started working. Plugged it into the amp, turned the tone knob a little and it started oscillating at about 8 khz. That's normally in the ultrasonic region for me but it was so loud I could feel pressure in my ears.  All the dogs in the next county probably heard it too.  It's intermittent and microphonic but the epicenter seems to be the jack.  Not too surprising since it's a 40 year old bass and probably been operated thousands of times.  So it looks like a little electronic surgery is indicated, probably a worn/dirty jack or cold joint or some such, no big deal.  I’ll replace it if it doesn’t clean up. Not surprisingly, this bass is completely sonically different than her stablemates and the best way I can describe the difference is that other two sound “modern” and this one sounds straight outta the Reagan era. I gotta say that ive never been around a koa instrument before.  The woodwork on this one is outstanding and it’s hypnotic to look at.  Apart from some minor fret wear,  pickup scuffing  and a beat-up backplate she looks just like she did fresh outta the mothership in 1983.

So in the meantime she can hang out with the rest of the crew while we work through our issues and I wrap my head around this whole medium-scale-4-string-80's-sound thing. 
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Re: Optimistically priced Exploiter on Reverb
« Reply #35 on: July 19, 2021, 04:32:46 AM »
just an addendum to the current chapter in this adventure - the seller kind of soft-pedaled the fact that this bass has a factory re-finish.  i've owned a lot of pretty alembics, this one just about is at the top of the list.  if i can get her other issues straightened out, might just have to take her out on a date!
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Re: Optimistically priced Exploiter on Reverb
« Reply #36 on: July 19, 2021, 10:01:13 AM »
Koa does kinda take the bite out of the attack. Def keep your Q switch on and use bright strings to get the most out of it.

I think that LED is on a modular connector now - check that all the connections are still intact after all the shipping that it has been thru.

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« Reply #37 on: July 22, 2021, 04:30:47 AM »
ok hopefully final episode in this adventure... it was a stormy night in denver last night, didn't feel like dodging lightning bolts on the bicycle so rather than put surgery off on this bass until a later date i decided to get 'er done now.  turns out there was a buildup of schmutz on the power switching contacts on the jack.  a little alcohol, TLC and patience got it cleaned up without further disassembly.  i really hate taking stuff apart if i don't need to, especially something like this.  buttoned her back up and the weird electronic artifacts disappeared.  the tone is much improved now as well, leading me to believe the impedance of the schmutz was letting just enough battery current through to sort-of power the pre-amp (but curiously not the LED).

so now we definitely have that alembic tone which was the whole point of this exercise.  yay!
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Re: Optimistically priced Exploiter on Reverb
« Reply #38 on: July 26, 2021, 07:45:48 AM »
Good to hear it is now up to snuff. If the bass had not been played for a while or on a regular basis the switch contacts would not be able to clean themselves. In this situation it is not uncommon for oxidation to build up on the contacts.

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Re: Optimistically priced Exploiter on Reverb
« Reply #39 on: July 26, 2021, 08:27:16 AM »
it's getting there.  still had some muddy sound/booming/weak output issues.  i raised the pickups ~2mm and that seemed to really clear things up. 

this bass plays a whole lot better standing up than sitting down.  gonna make an interesting winter music project.
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Re: Optimistically priced Exploiter on Reverb
« Reply #40 on: July 27, 2021, 08:50:22 AM »
Congrats on the beautiful bass! I purchased, last week, the quilted maple Exploiter that was on Reverb, and love it!
I was wondering, could you post a close up photo of the pickups height with the "sweet spot" you found?
I would like to give the setting you arrived at a try on mine.
Thanks so much! 

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Re: Optimistically priced Exploiter on Reverb
« Reply #41 on: July 27, 2021, 09:39:47 AM »
neck: ~2mm from bottom of string, bridge: ~3mm.

it's pretty high, but it really made a difference.  if you're a slapper, it might be too close.  i'm fingerstyle, works for me.  make sure you know how the pickup height adjustment works or you'll break the ears off..

<edit> i may have mis spoken on this, after thinking about it for a minute.  i'm at work now, i'll check it again when i get home.

also - make sure you write down your before measurements in case you want to get back there again...
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Re: Optimistically priced Exploiter on Reverb
« Reply #42 on: July 27, 2021, 05:08:30 PM »
Thank you!

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« Reply #43 on: July 27, 2021, 05:39:04 PM »
ok just checked it, it came out 3mm at the center of the pickups for both.
this is noticibly higher than my other basses and im sure there's some technical boundary im encroaching upon, but it sure fixed up the sound.
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Re: Optimistically priced Exploiter on Reverb
« Reply #44 on: July 27, 2021, 07:04:51 PM »
Both the maple and koa, very nice :)