Author Topic: The Scroll Shop (Ed of H's Shop Thread)  (Read 19308 times)

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Re: The Scroll Shop (Ed of H's Shop Thread)
« Reply #510 on: October 02, 2023, 02:50:47 PM »
Yeah, materials can surprise; my first and still main guitar is a 1979 Alvarez 5014 - think 000-18 with 28 trim, but all laminate.  The lead player in my son's high school band has been trying get me to trade straight up for his Martin D-1 for 23 years.  Unsuccessfully.
Lead player in the last band I did sound for has compared it favorably - or at least equally - to his Larivée.  A plywood guitar that has fans; imagine that!
And they ain't nothin' wrong with a nice Gibson whatsomeever.

Peter
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Re: The Scroll Shop (Ed of H's Shop Thread)
« Reply #511 on: October 02, 2023, 03:53:20 PM »
I agree with Peter; very nicely done!

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Re: The Scroll Shop (Ed of H's Shop Thread)
« Reply #512 on: October 10, 2023, 04:15:55 PM »
It was rainy and cold here yesterday, so I had a little shop clean-up day. Nothing too involved... but it was starting to get a little bit cluttered in there. I am used to things being right where I usually keep them, and where I usually keep them was getting harder to find. As usual, when I swept the floor, I found a few items that I had given up searching for in the sawdust of the past few months. And I must have changed a thousand sets of strings.

I stopped by Fret Mill Music today and visited, picked up two more fairly easy repair jobs. Went upstairs and looked at a trio of really interesting guitars I'm thinking about taking on. They were made by a very gifted luthier up in West Virginia, who was a coal miner by trade. He built several hundred flattop Dreadnought guitars in his life. There are three, in various states of disrepair and disassembly there, and I need to triage them to see what it would take to restore them to playable. I'm about out of time on this medical hiatus, but there ain't no hurry on these... they've been there for years. I'll take a couple pictures when I drop off these two little quick jobs.

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Re: The Scroll Shop (Ed of H's Shop Thread)
« Reply #513 on: October 11, 2023, 10:51:08 AM »
I already finished up the setup & restringing of a banjo for Fret Mill, and started on a fairly simple seam separation reglue of a British-made "pineapple-style" tenor ukulele. This is an interesting one... the maker put this little tag, in fine calligraphy inside;

Made from ancient bog oak, 5300 years old. Fenslands, England.


*Perhaps Jazzyvee might have heard of this maker? Not far from Birmingham.

**in case someone else was curious about what bog oak might be- https://www.wood-database.com/bog-oak/
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Re: The Scroll Shop (Ed of H's Shop Thread)
« Reply #514 on: October 11, 2023, 12:13:04 PM »
Really cool.

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Re: The Scroll Shop (Ed of H's Shop Thread)
« Reply #515 on: October 12, 2023, 02:50:41 AM »
I couldn't sleep, so just got up, made coffee and came up here to the shop. I knocked the clamps off the King ukulele and tuned it back up. I'll take it, and the banjo back to the store either this afternoon or tomorrow.

The Scroll Shop is clean. The workbenches are empty. Time to shut it down again and go back to public service... and finally finish out things there. About this time next year, I'll start working on the next 30 years. Maybe it'll be up here, doing this again, or maybe this will just be a fun pastime. I still have a couple weeks off, but I really need to do a few things around the house. Plus there's physical therapy yet to finish out.

I've had a good time up here this Summer though. The shop gave me something to do, something to get up for every day, something to think and solve little wooden problems. I'll miss the daily experience of it.

Thanks for all the questions and kind words guys.

Lights-out. *click*

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Re: The Scroll Shop (Ed of H's Shop Thread)
« Reply #516 on: October 12, 2023, 04:33:55 AM »
People who completely retire and “shut it down” have a tendency to not last very long. Those who have a passion, avocation, or some activity to get up for each day and keep their minds and bodies active, are much more likely to live long fulfilled lives. My father-in-law and mother-in-law are 90 and 91. He retired as an Assistant High School principal 32 years ago but is an avid baseball fan, stills plays tennis several times a week, swims, rides his bike and runs. They live on their own with no support needed, drive themselves to wherever they want to go and are still as sharp as tacks cognitively. With your avocation, I fully expect to be reading interesting tidbits about the instruments you are repairing and restoring many years from now in your scroll shop musings and predict you’ll be still be contributing to the music community in your area of the country 25 to 30 years from now.

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Re: The Scroll Shop (Ed of H's Shop Thread)
« Reply #517 on: October 12, 2023, 08:49:08 PM »
I envy your nice workshop. Mine is still only half-operational after almost THREE years since moving...I never have time to focus on getting it there and it's quite a bit smaller than the old one...oh well, one day...Tony.

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Re: The Scroll Shop (Ed of H's Shop Thread)
« Reply #518 on: October 16, 2023, 03:55:51 AM »
I've never seen myself as the stereotypical retired guy, who played golf and whatever... or just sat down and watched the grass grow. I have always imagined that I'd be doing something useful, and assumed I'd do something in public water systems, but after the past few years, I'm kinda' burned out on the whole public service thing, and I'm just ready to disassociate from that. I really can't say any more about it without breaking rules. It just ain't what it used to be.

So what do I do? Cause I need to do something to offset the cost of insurance. I can be selective about it, and it doesn't necessarily need to be BIG $$$. On the other hand, it'd be nice if it was.

I think the shop could probably bring in enough money, if (and this is a BIG IF) I learned how to run it. Also, I would have to set it up as a legitimate business. Last time I tried that, (15 years ago) the County made a stink about it, from a couple different angles. So I'd have to go argue with them about that stuff. It's been long enough that I don't remember what all the roadblocks were.

It has crossed my mind more than a few times, that I could easily return to playing music, at least semi-professionally. The bluegrass festival circuit runs from March to November, with a few off-season gigs. Most of the time, you work Friday and Saturday, with travel on Thursday and Sunday. I haven't 'done the road' for over 25 years now, but there's quite a few kids my age still doing it. And I still have a few contacts.

Either way, I'll always have the shop up here, open for a project. And that may be how I spend some of that unused paid leave this year... finishing up a few half-done things. I have a steel-bodied National guitar that got run over by a Chrysler, so needed a new neck. (miraculously, the body and cone survived) There's a Turner/Garcia-inspired 'Peanut' guitar that Bro. Elwood was advising me about. An 1870's carved-top Gamba-style double-bass I had design on a 5-string conversion. And parts enough to build four more banjos. Plenty to do that I just never had time.

But for now, it's time to get back to work sending water down the pipes... the last set is about to start.

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Re: The Scroll Shop (Ed of H's Shop Thread)
« Reply #519 on: October 18, 2023, 02:19:26 PM »
Two things, Greg:
1)  Oh, heck yes fix those WV guitars!
2)  You left out a very important piece of info:  How does a 5300-y-o-bog-oak pineapple sound???  Inquiring ears want to know!


Peter (who had always planned to spent his retirement hiking, camping, finally learning how actually play these fool things, and try learning to build some - but instead is trying to moderate his deterioration to the point he can care Her in Hers...........)
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Re: The Scroll Shop (Ed of H's Shop Thread)
« Reply #520 on: October 20, 2023, 02:46:48 AM »

Possible Future Projects; West Virginia Guitars, by Scott Mills

I had my 'return-to-duty' meeting with the braintrust at work yesterday morning... mostly hashing out what, exactly my short balance of time in that establishment might be best spent doing. I did them the biggest favor I could by cashing-out the maximum amount of paid leave that payroll allows in a calendar year, which got me down to a more manageable three weeks to take this year. To manage what's left, and what I accrue, starting January 1st, I'll be at work about three weeks of each month until Dec. 1st of '24. So the point was, every day needs to be well-spent on something and not wasted.

Afterward, I stopped by Fret Mill to drop off a fiddle and guitar, both that had been easy setup and restringing jobs. Minor seam separation on the fiddle. Some fretwork on the guitar.

While there, I went upstairs to take another look at those Scott Mills guitars. All three are major projects, but I think well worth doing. The soundboxes themselves are structurally sound, not a single crack anywhere in them. One has a chunk missing from underneath the bridge footprint. Two are missing their necks, and I see why... as well as these are built, the neck joint is weak, and completely inaccessible after assembled. The only one with a neck needs a reset, which is basically impossible, given the construction. The good; the bodies are beautiful walnut, with Appalachian red spruce tops. All the binding and purfling, even the pickguards are wood. The finish is a nice thin nitrocellulose lacquer, aged, but not checked to pieces. They are really something to see. All three are hand signed and dated in 1983.

If I take these on (free or very cheap) they'll get new necks, set in a routed mortise, and bolted in. I have two of Scott Mills' necks to go by here, and I think approximating his original design in retrofit is entirely do-able. I just don't have time now.

Here's a couple pictures of the trio.
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Re: The Scroll Shop (Ed of H's Shop Thread)
« Reply #521 on: October 20, 2023, 02:52:43 AM »
Details of Scott Mills' guitar #1...


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Re: The Scroll Shop (Ed of H's Shop Thread)
« Reply #522 on: October 20, 2023, 02:54:23 AM »
Here's Mills #2-

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Re: The Scroll Shop (Ed of H's Shop Thread)
« Reply #523 on: October 20, 2023, 02:55:59 AM »
And #3-

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Re: The Scroll Shop (Ed of H's Shop Thread)
« Reply #524 on: November 04, 2023, 04:38:16 AM »
I talked to Ken this week, gave my thoughts about restoring the Mills guitars. He says whenever I am ready, give it a rip.

Last weekend's project was a repair; cracked X-brace on this Asian import (rather loose) copy of a Martin HD-28. The laminated, and skeleton-ized bracing was interesting. Note how each brace is made with two pieces of spruce with a center core of rosewood (or something) sandwiched between them, then a series of oval holes bored through them. To reduce mass? Increase resonance? All I can attest to is, it's a big ol' pain in the butt getting glue out of them after squeeze-out, and before clamping. A wet cotton swab did the trick. This was the first one of these Crossroads guitars I have seen. Sounded okay.

This weekend's project is a Strad-O-Lin mandolin... I think a Harmony make. Easy fix... couple seam separations to glue up, clean up, setup, restring. Probably finish tomorrow and have it back to the store Monday.