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Stripped Epic 5 on Reverb
« on: December 20, 2018, 04:22:22 AM »
I swear, I'm not looking for these projects, but they keep showing up! Take a deep breath first... lots of ick-factor, but nothing that can't be fixed.  :P


https://reverb.com/item/17779223-alembic-epic-5

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Re: Stripped Epic 5 on Reverb
« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2018, 08:28:48 AM »
So what happened in the control cavity?

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Re: Stripped Epic 5 on Reverb
« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2018, 11:10:31 AM »
Maybe a leaking battery for a long time?
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Re: Stripped Epic 5 on Reverb
« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2018, 11:20:51 AM »
My guess is, a combination of water and battery acid. Congrats, you now have spalted maple.  ::)

They say they have the electronic boards, but I'll guess they're toast. The pickups might be okay... but how would you know?

This is one of those where you could go a couple different ways. It's so rough that you could make a legitimate case for leaving her as is, only replacing the electronics, make it into the greatest beater-bass on Planet Earth. Some people like the 'distressed' look. I'm not here to judge.

Or... (this is where things get dangerous for the tinkerer in me) you could totally restore this poor thing. Do a dark whiskey-burst finish on that maple top to hide that awful staining, replace and even upgrade the electronics to something special. I mean... why not? What is stopping you at this point?

At this point, 98W11732 is a souvenir... and I'm a sentimental fool - bad combination!  ;D

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Re: Stripped Epic 5 on Reverb
« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2018, 03:13:45 PM »
I'm with you, Gregory. If I had plenty of money laying around, I'd make an offer on this bass and rehab it. Drill two small holes for Q switches and you could drop signature electronics in there.

I've always thought the epic body shape was dying for some paint.  A solid color finish on an epic would look great.

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Re: Stripped Epic 5 on Reverb
« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2018, 03:34:41 PM »
Well, at least it looks like it had a lot of play during its life :)

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Re: Stripped Epic 5 on Reverb
« Reply #6 on: December 20, 2018, 07:14:59 PM »
Seems like an ambitious price.

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Re: Stripped Epic 5 on Reverb
« Reply #7 on: December 21, 2018, 04:03:01 AM »
Seems like an ambitious price.


Oh yeah, Edwin... I would def'ly use the <make offer> button here... nevermind the extreme play-wear and corrosion, for $1500 you can buy an Epic that already has correct electronics installed. ;D


I'm guessing they expect to get a flood of lowball offers on this one anyway, so there's gotta' be some formula in play... ie; ask for X more than you expect to get.

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Re: Stripped Epic 5 on Reverb
« Reply #8 on: December 21, 2018, 04:27:29 PM »
You warned me before I clicked! That poor baby really does need some new parents.

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Re: Stripped Epic 5 on Reverb
« Reply #9 on: January 03, 2019, 10:15:28 PM »
I'm kind of itching for a project.... I'm gonna try to catch Mica tomorrow and get her take on a few things.  based on what she thinks, if I can get it at considerably less than the asking price, I might be in on this.

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Re: Stripped Epic 5 on Reverb
« Reply #10 on: January 04, 2019, 03:27:05 AM »
Go Toby, Go.  ;)

By the way, the seller has the moon tailpiece. It goes with the bass.

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Re: Stripped Epic 5 on Reverb
« Reply #11 on: January 04, 2019, 06:48:16 AM »
Thanks, Gregory. I was goong to email the seller about the tailpiece. The next question I'd like an answer to is whether the pickups are still working. 

  Based on your experience with instrument construction and repair, you have any other opinions on this that you haven't already shared above?

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Re: Stripped Epic 5 on Reverb
« Reply #12 on: January 04, 2019, 07:01:51 AM »
I asked about the pickups' functionality at the same time Toby, and received the following reply;

"The tailpiece is included. I'll update the listing to clarify that. I just removed it to do some cleaning of the body. The pickups should be functional with no issues, but I'll double check that just to make 100% sure. If my memory serves me correctly they were working within the circuit when the pots were still there, but the pots were completely seized and corroded (basically welded shut with corrosion). There was just a lot of static in the circuit but tapping the pickups made signal come through. Let me know if I can help with anything else"

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Re: Stripped Epic 5 on Reverb
« Reply #13 on: January 04, 2019, 07:29:01 AM »
The best thing it has going for it it is, it appears to be structurally sound. I would like to see one string on there to better judge the draft angle. Going by the bridge height, and just guessing it isn't that far off, I'd say it's okay. All the hardware is there on the husk of an Alembic. The electronics are shot. The pickups are a maybe. The wood is a mess, but if one were to refinish in an opaque or dark tint, it'll be okay. Frets don't look too bad.

I'm no good at this part, because I'm a sentimental fool, but you can occasionally buy a pretty decent used Epic for what he's asking. I don't like low-balling guys, but even if I do the work to this bass using Alembic components and my time, I might well have another $1000 in it, best-case scenario. That kinda' limits what I could offer and stay in the ballpark of what it's generally worth if I had to sell it. (I'm talking break-even sell, not flip-for-$)

That said- if I did take it on, when I got through, it'd be one sweet Epic. No reason not to do some wild custom tricks not usually seen on these.

Mica has a very sharp eye for detail, and will see something that I've missed, so I would definitely reach out to her.


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Re: Stripped Epic 5 on Reverb
« Reply #14 on: January 04, 2019, 07:32:04 AM »
Not to hijack the thread too much, but I have a bass that looks just like that.   My maple top is quite stained, and my pots are seized up too.   I have even tried to twist them with a vice grip, no luck.   My Q switches have oxidized to the point where they broke off.   The switches do nothing.

But the bass still works!   It is delaminated and I think it may be worse off than the Epic on Reverb.  The pickups still work and I still gig with this bass!   Just saying, as this Epic may not be a total loss.

Michael