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Re: Cell phone blues
« Reply #15 on: October 04, 2018, 11:05:02 AM »
I'm not that high-tech, Bill - my hands-free (also the law in IL) is a $35 bluetooth thingie that clips on the visor (Volvo's sound systems, while quite good, had no bluetooth capability in '04 - but it does have AM, FM, CD, and cassette.....)


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Re: Cell phone blues
« Reply #16 on: October 05, 2018, 12:51:37 AM »
I'm a flip-phone guy.  I don't text, Facebook, Twit, or Insta myself, life is too short.  I think smart phones are the modern equivalent of the tower of babel (or more correctly, babble).  Who cares what I think, where I went to eat, or pictures of my back room or even worse, a plate of food.  Geez . . . . . I just need something so Shirley can tell 911 what ditch I'm laying in after getting thrown of the motorcycle.  I like home computers and digital cameras, so I'm good.

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Re: Cell phone blues
« Reply #17 on: October 05, 2018, 04:17:03 AM »
The battery problems with the iPhones (dying after about 18 months) has been a good deal!  The battery swells inside the phone destroying guts.  They just gave me a new phone! (I didn't have a warranty or Apple Care). Same problem with my brothers iPhone last week and he got a new phone.  So, until they fix their battery issues......free replacements for Everybody!  😬😜
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Re: Cell phone blues
« Reply #18 on: October 05, 2018, 07:25:25 AM »
I'm a flip-phone guy.  I don't text, Facebook, Twit, or Insta myself, life is too short.  I think smart phones are the modern equivalent of the tower of babel (or more correctly, babble).  Who cares what I think, where I went to eat, or pictures of my back room or even worse, a plate of food.  Geez . . . . . I just need something so Shirley can tell 911 what ditch I'm laying in after getting thrown of the motorcycle.  I like home computers and digital cameras, so I'm good.


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Re: Cell phone blues
« Reply #19 on: October 06, 2018, 01:01:27 AM »
More than film, peter, I miss FILM CAMERAS. Older film cameras are solid and feel like serious equipment built to last, and they do last...it's nice to carry lighter stuff when I'm planning to take pics but I wish it was a little more robust ( I have a Nikon j5 and it's pretty cool ). It's also nice not to cost $25 for developing a roll only to find that only three were good...a much cheaper learning curve...Tony.

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Re: Cell phone blues
« Reply #20 on: October 06, 2018, 08:08:01 AM »
I dont miss film at all. I really like digital editing. It provides so much flexibility.

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Re: Cell phone blues
« Reply #21 on: October 06, 2018, 01:54:12 PM »
I love my Leica M3. It was my dad’s. no digital camera will cover that territory.
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Re: Cell phone blues
« Reply #22 on: October 06, 2018, 11:47:35 PM »
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Re: Cell phone blues
« Reply #23 on: October 07, 2018, 07:23:04 AM »
I'm not really sure how I feel about this one. I travel a lot internationally and it's great to be able to use GPS to get around large cities with which I'm not familiar, connect with home pretty much seamlessly, and access the board. I don't tweet, rarely post of Facebook (although I have to at times to show funding agencies we actually are getting work done and its now required on some of our grants) and while my classic iPod still worked never used a phone to listen to music. The new iPods are a lot less functional, hold less music, and are really nothing more than iPhones without the phone part.


However, the things are really instant reinforcement boxes that I've seen people of every age get addicted to and seem unable to put down. Some of the faculty at the UMN now have a table set up in front of their classrooms and require all students to place their smartphones on it prior to beginning class.  It's gotten to the point that I've heard from my colleagues that some students actually now carry their old cellphones (no longer working) to place on the table because it's "anxiety producing" to be out of touch for the length of a class period. It's not just phones though, but includes tablets and laptops people use to get instant gratification (e.g. How many of my Facebook friends liked that stupid cat video I just posted - which I probably posted while I was sitting in Psych 101). I learned quickly a number of years ago that regardless of class size students will be texting, posting, etc. regardless of what else they are supposed to be doing. Only way I found to stop it was to wander around the room while I taught and ask questions to those who appeared to be preoccupied.

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Re: Cell phone blues
« Reply #24 on: October 07, 2018, 12:27:49 PM »
However, the things are really instant reinforcement boxes that I've seen people of every age get addicted to and seem unable to put down.

4 years ago we went to a party to send a nephew off to college.  At point it got really quiet, so I looked around; 20+ people - at a family gathering - aged 11-72, and my wife & i were the only ones not texting. It's a sickness.

Some of the faculty at the UMN now have a table set up in front of their classrooms and require all students to place their smartphones on it prior to beginning class.  It's gotten to the point that I've heard from my colleagues that some students actually now carry their old cellphones (no longer working) to place on the table because it's "anxiety producing" to be out of touch for the length of a class period. It's not just phones though, but includes tablets and laptops people use to get instant gratification (e.g. How many of my Facebook friends liked that stupid cat video I just posted - which I probably posted while I was sitting in Psych 101). I learned quickly a number of years ago that regardless of class size students will be texting, posting, etc. regardless of what else they are supposed to be doing. Only way I found to stop it was to wander around the room while I taught and ask questions to those who appeared to be preoccupied.

As a K-12 sub, I started every class by telling them just how easy they were to spot ("No, when you're holding a notebook up in front of yourself with one hand, you're being sneaky & clever") & the certainty that, when I did see them, I would write them up.  Still turned in several yellow sheets at the end of every day.
I fortunately never had a college class that was so large I couldn't see them all. I told them on the first day that if I saw a phone once, they would leave the room & lose all credit for the day; if I saw it a second time they failed the class.  Only had to send one guy out once.

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Re: Cell phone blues
« Reply #25 on: October 07, 2018, 01:29:46 PM »
Our son is 23.  I suspect if I superglued his phone to his left palm, it would be at least three days before he would notice!  One group mind, everyone knows everything instantly, mostly reams of worthless info - the Borg are taking over!

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Re: Cell phone blues
« Reply #26 on: October 12, 2018, 10:51:26 PM »
When we take our breaks at work, I'm sitting around with 20 or so people . . . . . who all have their heads down into their so-called 'smart' phones.  No talk, no conversation, I could light myself on fire and no one would look up.  No thanks.

I was raised as the son of a wedding photographer and started off with a 120 Agfa Super Speedex folder as a kid, armed with a Kodak Photo Guide.  No light meter, but it did have a rangefinder.  I often joke I had two twin stepbrothers . . . . . a pair of Rollei 2.8F's.  Film cameras were wonderful, mechanical, clockwork devices back then, full of gears, springs, sprockets, etc.  Film taught you a certain discipline in that you had to learn in order to KNOW you got it in the camera, it would be a while before it was developed and printed.  The chemistry is what killed it, and when that ran into the digital revolution, it was over, as dead as steam locomotives in the jet age.

I liken film photography to the way recording was done before multi-track.  Everyone in the same room, playing the tune, one take double or nothing, and hope the mics were in the right place and everyone stayed in their lane.  Digital photography is like (or really is . . . .) digital recording,  take everything apart, re-arrange, re-tune, fix, change rooms, and shoot it wirelessly around the room or the world.  It's amazing to now have cameras that my Dad would have said were impossible.

As somebody who was the 'one-hour' guy for several years, I REALLY don't miss color prints and C41 chemistry.  But I dearly miss transparencies:  I think the whole world looks better on Velvia, and one day, Fujifilm will finally perfect a 'Velvia' profile in their X-cameras.  Close, but not quite there just yet . . . . I still look down at my digital cameras occasionally and for a split second wonder 'where's the rewind crank?' . . . . .

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Re: Cell phone blues
« Reply #27 on: October 13, 2018, 08:03:44 AM »
I don't know the model, Joey, but in '56 my aunt bought a Rolleiflex DLR (for $150, in '56 - not a Kodak Brownie).  Never learned to work it, so she gave it her mom.  granny never learned to work it, so she gave it to me.  I never learned to work it, so I gave it to a friend who already knew how to use it.  I'm glad it got used, but have often wished I'd held on to it & learned how to work it.  It was beautiful.

But do you want to know what bothers me most about my digital camera?  The damn screen instead of a proper veiwfinder! 

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Re: Cell phone blues
« Reply #28 on: October 13, 2018, 10:35:56 AM »

Peter, step up to a camera with an EVF (electronic viewfinder):  The new cameras have wonderful viewfinders, and unlike the view thru a traditional rangefinder window or a single lens reflex view, you are now seeing what the picture will look like, plus you don't have to fight it to see well in broad daylight.  Or just get one of the X100 Fujis:  Looks like a traditional rangefinder, but with the ingenious feature of either looking thru a traditional eye-level finder like a rangefinder, then throwing a front switch which replaces that view with an EVF image right off the sensor.  What a hoot.  Get used to a good EVF and you'll never go back to a traditional optical finder.



https://www.fujifilmusa.com/products/digital_cameras/x/fujifilm_x100F/


. . . . and more to the point, the ingenious OVF/EVF:


https://www.fujifilmusa.com/products/digital_cameras/x/fujifilm_x100f/features/page_02.html
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Re: Cell phone blues
« Reply #29 on: October 13, 2018, 02:03:38 PM »
This is what I'm usually looking at through the viewfinder on my 5D...

https://blog.kareldonk.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/5dscreen1.jpg

I couldn't imagine using a camera and not being able to look through a viewfinder. :s It's nice to focus on the subject not whatever is not going to be in the image.