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slawie

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A 432Hz Tuning frequency
« on: September 26, 2017, 11:23:35 PM »
I have been doing some reading but have not tried it as I don't have a tuner that offers 432 Hz

Anyone here given it a shot?

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Re: A 432Hz Tuning frequency
« Reply #1 on: September 27, 2017, 12:22:21 AM »
Half a turn on the tuners, then tune the strings 5th fret vs open or 5th and 7th harmonic. Adds a bit of slack. Nothing to blow your mind, though.

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Re: A 432Hz Tuning frequency
« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2017, 05:08:58 PM »
I'm missing ed_zeppelin... he woulda' been on this thread like a duck on a june bug. I'm sure there are some posts of his somewhere on here about A 432 Hz but they're all from derailed threads, so finding them with the search function is near impossible.  ::)

I've messed with it Slawie, but found I only notice the effects by detuning a guitar to 432. And I will admit, it does sound fuller or richer, or something... but my brain keeps telling me "you're out of tune". I don't have perfect pitch in the sense that I could hum any given note on demand. I can however tune a bass (or guitar) to standard pitch without any electronic help, provided there are no sonic distractions. As a result, hearing an A tuned a few cents flatter just feels wrong. It must be something subliminal.

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Re: A 432Hz Tuning frequency
« Reply #3 on: September 27, 2017, 05:27:30 PM »
I have a few Facebook friends who are really into it. Along with conspiracy theories and other fun hobbies. The fact is that a strict 440 is a relatively recent invention and it's all pretty arbitrary. The cosmic aspects of it have all been fairly well debunked. I think singers like it because it allows them to relax a bit.

slawie

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Re: A 432Hz Tuning frequency
« Reply #4 on: September 27, 2017, 05:44:13 PM »
Thanks Adrian, Gregory and Edwin.

I found on youtube a 432 Hz tuning tone so that would be a good start.
Unleashing the internal hippie in me and hoping to start a band with 432Hz tuning for some prog/jazz rock

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Re: A 432Hz Tuning frequency
« Reply #5 on: September 27, 2017, 06:17:50 PM »
A true hippie would tune to 420 Hz.
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Re: A 432Hz Tuning frequency
« Reply #6 on: September 27, 2017, 07:22:32 PM »

 Turn up, Tune down...
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Re: A 432Hz Tuning frequency
« Reply #7 on: September 28, 2017, 12:32:07 AM »
Take sn old LP pressing of Miles Davis' Kind of Blue. Play along side one, flip the disk and try again without retuning.
See https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kind_of_Blue specifically the Release History section.

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Re: A 432Hz Tuning frequency
« Reply #8 on: September 28, 2017, 11:49:27 AM »
Take sn old LP pressing of Miles Davis' Kind of Blue. Play along side one, flip the disk and try again without retuning.
See https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kind_of_Blue specifically the Release History section.

This was a mistake, though, not an intentional manipulation of a tuning standard.

Many albums are out of tune for this reason and many more are out of tune intentionally, as the artist or producer attempts to induce a more sprightly version of the performance.

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Re: A 432Hz Tuning frequency
« Reply #9 on: September 28, 2017, 12:19:16 PM »
Flatt & Scruggs earlier albums are almost a half-step sharp. I've often wondered if they intentionally tuned that way or if it was sped up in the mastering process.

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Re: A 432Hz Tuning frequency
« Reply #10 on: September 29, 2017, 11:49:42 AM »
When I played with Angel Marie Michaels the whole band tuned a half step down for her vocal range.

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Re: A 432Hz Tuning frequency
« Reply #11 on: September 29, 2017, 01:05:36 PM »
Zac Brown Band tunes a half-step flat too. I'm guessing for his vocal range. I don't know if J.D. Hopkins tunes his basses down or not, but I learned three albums worth in standard tuning, just for the F# and Eb exercise.

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Re: A 432Hz Tuning frequency
« Reply #12 on: September 29, 2017, 09:18:20 PM »
Jimi Hendrix is famous for tuning down a half-step, isn't he? I remember reading an interview with Pete Cosey where he referred to it as one among many alternate tunings he used (like the strings in different order) - he called it the "Eb tuning" and said he had taught it to Hendrix...

As a Buddhist minister I've been fortunate to study the Japanese gagaku music system, and they still tune a few cents different than A=440. Earlier this year we did a ceremony where we had chanting with gagaku instruments and me on Hammond organ (well, the Nord Electro version) - I had to detune it in order not to clash with the gagaku instruments - especially the sho. I'll have to try and figure out what the actual frequency is. I do have a metronome program on my smartphone that has a tuner that can be adjusted.

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Re: A 432Hz Tuning frequency
« Reply #13 on: September 30, 2017, 02:03:52 AM »
hmmm...my Mom has mentioned she saw and chatted with a chicago guitarist who
had given Hendrix some tips. I bet that was Pete Cosey. I'll have to see if that name
rings a bell   ;D

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Re: A 432Hz Tuning frequency
« Reply #14 on: September 30, 2017, 09:55:11 AM »
I was also going to mention Hendrix as someone who de-tuned his guitar.

Harry,
Cool that you are into gagaku. If you ever do another similar ceremony and it is okay I would love to come check it out.

I first became aware of gagaku through the poetry of Steve Richmond and was fortunate to get to catch a performance of gagaku music up in Portland in the early 90s. I used to collect Charles Bukowski first editions and Buk was a friend and fan of Steve's which is how I found out about his poetry. Not sure what frequency he tuned his poetry to but am certain it was an unusual one....

"Steve Richmond, along with friend and mentor Charles Bukowski, dominated the outlaw post mimeo revolution poetry scene of the 1970s and 1980s. He was a friend of the iconic rock star Jim Morrison, who was also a poet. Fiercely independent and poised against the academic literary establishment—what critic Ben Pleasants called the “poetry mafia”—Richmond invented a poetical style influenced by Japanese Shinto court music known as “Gagaku.” Driven by inner demons and fueled by drugs he produced thousands of poems over a thirty year period prior to his death in 2009. Gagaku Reader, the Life and Poetry of Steve Richmond is a selection of his best work."