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jacko

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New CITES regulations around rosewoods.
« on: December 12, 2016, 07:15:13 AM »
Just spotted this article....

https://reverb.com/news/new-cites-regulations-for-all-rosewood-species?utm_campaign=eb4a3636e7-rn161209_content&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&utm_term=0_5889ed6702-eb4a3636e7-57057585

Could make international trades of Cocobolo bodied instruments tricky.

Also interesting is that it's being applied retrospectively to existing stocks... "Manufacturers who currently have stockpiles of the newly regulated wood must document their inventory and apply for pre-convention certificates."   Something for Mica to be aware of I guess.

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Re: New CITES regulations around rosewoods.
« Reply #1 on: December 12, 2016, 11:30:44 AM »
I had a very rude awakening this summer about all the paperwork that can be generated by shipping international. I bought 2 Tune basses in Japan, and they were flagged and held in Chicago customs for 30 days, while paperwork verification could be collected from Tune, and inspectors brought in to verify the wood. One was made of Ziricote and the other Bubinga. It gave me a new respect for Mica, who I am sure is well versed in CITES and Endangered Species Act  https://www.fws.gov/laws/lawsdigest/ESACT.html   . I will not import or export anymore, after a very real risk of losing 2 basses, and or being hit with fines. Now with all Rosewood, including Indian, on the list, Dear Lord! Maybe acrylic guitars will come into their own now.

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Re: New CITES regulations around rosewoods.
« Reply #2 on: December 12, 2016, 01:07:54 PM »
Good article Graeme.
The diatribe comments after the news story is a hoot!
So glad this place is a civil as it is.
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Re: New CITES regulations around rosewoods.
« Reply #3 on: December 14, 2016, 08:29:19 PM »
The comments after the story are a hoot, but sad as well...the thing really is that trees are wasted or sadly underutilized; I had a friend who has worked building guitars and boats at various times and couldn't believe that he'd see pallets made of prime mahogany; and how many old growth spruce trees here on the west coast got pulped down to make disposable diapers? or toilet paper? we all should be happy that agencies are trying to make it hard to waste these trees and maximize their value; we should be doing this with ALL trees...waste is waste and none of us would be happy if our kids couldn't have nice sounding guitars because we used up all the good wood..." wait 50 years, there will be good wood, if the forests aren't under water..."

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Re: New CITES regulations around rosewoods.
« Reply #4 on: December 26, 2016, 09:00:03 AM »
More about CITES, courtesy of the American League of Orchestras... good news and bad news.  It looks like there may soon be a CITES exemption for musical instruments that are traveling with a musician for personal use.  The bad news is that sales of instruments containing any type of rosewood (and that would include cocobolo) will now require a permit (and the international sale of instruments containing Brazilian rosewood will remain prohibited. 

Have a look:

Relief as Rosewood Protections Increase
An original proposal related to the rosewood frequently used in crafting musical instruments would have subjected significantly more musicians to the burdensome travel permit requirements. Entering into the negotiations, Brazil, Argentina, Guatemala, and Kenya requested listing all species of rosewood (the scientific name of the genus is dalbergia) under Appendix II of the treaty, requiring permits for transportation of any rosewood items across borders without exceptions.  While musical instruments that contain Brazilian rosewood already require CITES permits under the treaty’s highest Appendix I level of protection and will continue to do so, very many stringed instruments that contain Indian rosewood tuning pegs and tail pieces have not been subject to CITES permit rules. As the underlying threat to rosewood species is driven by a demand for large luxury furniture items, the music community successfully appealed to the CITES Parties to add an exemption for the small quantity of rosewood found in musical instruments so that permits would not be required when instruments are merely transported across borders for performances and personal use. Sales of these items across borders, on the other hand, will now require permits.

The process of crafting the non-commercial exemption for musical instruments was a very complicated one, and up to the very last moment of deliberations it was unclear whether a real solution had been found. On the closing day of the CITES decision-making process, the U.S. delegation, led by the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, took the highly visible and essential step of intervening during the proceedings to successfully obtain a clarification so that musicians traveling back and forth from their home countries with their instruments will find relief under the new rules. We are most grateful for this key leadership by the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service which is consistent with the recent steps taken by the Obama Administration to find solutions for musicians under new domestic ivory rules.

The whole article is here.
More about CITES, courtesy of the American League of Orchestras... good news and bad news.  It looks like there may soon be a CITES exemption for musical instruments that are traveling with a musician for personal use.  The bad news is that sales of instruments containing any type of rosewood will now require a permit (and the international sale of instruments containing Brazilian rosewood will remain prohibited.  Have a look:

Relief as Rosewood Protections Increase
An original proposal related to the rosewood frequently used in crafting musical instruments would have subjected significantly more musicians to the burdensome travel permit requirements. Entering into the negotiations, Brazil, Argentina, Guatemala, and Kenya requested listing all species of rosewood (the scientific name of the genus is dalbergia) under Appendix II of the treaty, requiring permits for transportation of any rosewood items across borders without exceptions.  While musical instruments that contain Brazilian rosewood already require CITES permits under the treaty’s highest Appendix I level of protection and will continue to do so, very many stringed instruments that contain Indian rosewood tuning pegs and tail pieces have not been subject to CITES permit rules. As the underlying threat to rosewood species is driven by a demand for large luxury furniture items, the music community successfully appealed to the CITES Parties to add an exemption for the small quantity of rosewood found in musical instruments so that permits would not be required when instruments are merely transported across borders for performances and personal use. Sales of these items across borders, on the other hand, will now require permits.

The process of crafting the non-commercial exemption for musical instruments was a very complicated one, and up to the very last moment of deliberations it was unclear whether a real solution had been found. On the closing day of the CITES decision-making process, the U.S. delegation, led by the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, took the highly visible and essential step of intervening during the proceedings to successfully obtain a clarification so that musicians traveling back and forth from their home countries with their instruments will find relief under the new rules. We are most grateful for this key leadership by the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service which is consistent with the recent steps taken by the Obama Administration to find solutions for musicians under new domestic ivory rules.

The whole article is here.
More about CITES, courtesy of the American League of Orchestras... good news and bad news.  It looks like there may soon be a CITES exemption for musical instruments that are traveling with a musician for personal use.  The bad news is that sales of instruments containing any type of rosewood will now require a permit (and the international sale of instruments containing Brazilian rosewood will remain prohibited.  Have a look:

Relief as Rosewood Protections Increase
An original proposal related to the rosewood frequently used in crafting musical instruments would have subjected significantly more musicians to the burdensome travel permit requirements. Entering into the negotiations, Brazil, Argentina, Guatemala, and Kenya requested listing all species of rosewood (the scientific name of the genus is dalbergia) under Appendix II of the treaty, requiring permits for transportation of any rosewood items across borders without exceptions.  While musical instruments that contain Brazilian rosewood already require CITES permits under the treaty’s highest Appendix I level of protection and will continue to do so, very many stringed instruments that contain Indian rosewood tuning pegs and tail pieces have not been subject to CITES permit rules. As the underlying threat to rosewood species is driven by a demand for large luxury furniture items, the music community successfully appealed to the CITES Parties to add an exemption for the small quantity of rosewood found in musical instruments so that permits would not be required when instruments are merely transported across borders for performances and personal use. Sales of these items across borders, on the other hand, will now require permits.

The process of crafting the non-commercial exemption for musical instruments was a very complicated one, and up to the very last moment of deliberations it was unclear whether a real solution had been found. On the closing day of the CITES decision-making process, the U.S. delegation, led by the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, took the highly visible and essential step of intervening during the proceedings to successfully obtain a clarification so that musicians traveling back and forth from their home countries with their instruments will find relief under the new rules. We are most grateful for this key leadership by the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service which is consistent with the recent steps taken by the Obama Administration to find solutions for musicians under new domestic ivory rules.

The whole article is here.
http://americanorchestras.org/advocacy-government/408463-cites-treaty-negotiations-include-musical-instrument-policies.html