Author Topic: So how's Obama doing so far? (Read 474 times)

flaxattack · « **on:** January 28, 2009, 12:23:05 PM »

i have to admit- i was hoping the new admin whould hit the ground running-but i never expected them to be sprinting like this. i was amazed at the interview with al-arabiya sunday night.

so tonight obama is hosting a cocktail party at the white house for app 10 reps and 10 dems plus who knows who else

my advice- to hell with the liquor! smoke a doob or 3 and legalize marijuana to jump start the economy. Take the weed out of the hands of the mexican cartel and other criminals.
not to mention dropping the price on an ounce!

but after 8yrs of nothing- this sure is refreshing

jet_powers · « **Reply #1 on:** January 28, 2009, 01:31:35 PM »

Not to start a political discourse, but I wouldn't say it's been 8 years of nothing! History made! The worst administration on record!

Personally, having no party affiliation, I was truly amazed at the right wing propaganda that would show up in my email over the last 18 months or so. Now that the new administration has been in place for a whole week now, and have hit the ground sprinting, can I assume the RW scare tactics were less than true? They made it sound like as soon as the Dems took control, homos would come to my house and redistribute my wealth. It hasn't happened yet. Should I still be nervous?

bsee · « **Reply #2 on:** January 28, 2009, 01:41:20 PM »

Jeez, Jeff...What part of let's not talk politics on the Alembic club boards is so hard to understand? I haven't even read your message nor do I have a side to chime in on. I just know that even if 99% of the people out there agree with you, there's 1% who will be pissed or alienated. Even if it's 100% agreement, it sets a bad precedent and makes it a harder job for Dave to look for the gray area where political discourse is sort of okay. For Dave's sake as well as the rest of us, can people stop inciting political discourse here, no matter how harmless they may think it is?

Just my opinion as a frustrated non-moderator who likes to read about things that don't involve politics or religion on these boards.

-bob

David Houck · « **Reply #3 on:** January 28, 2009, 01:52:00 PM »

Jeff; as moderator I have on several occasions discouraged political threads and comments as outlined in the posting guidelines, and that discouragement remains my position on the mater. I recently edited a post by another club member to remove a disparaging remark of a political nature. It was perhaps an overreaction on my part to take that kind of action, but I have stated my position several times and I would have hoped that after last November that we could all agree to respect our fellow club members by not saying things that others will find to be attacks on their character.

For some, and understandably so, politics and religion are subjects that can be highly emotional. Events that are celebratory for some can be heart rending for others.

Many people worked very hard for the candidates who lost in November; and for some it is still an emotionally bitter defeat.

Our community is a close knit community, and our closeness is based on a common love and appreciation of music, and of Alembic instruments. It is my considered opinion as moderator that discussions and comments of a political nature will serve to loosen the bonds that make this community the place that it is. Many of our members, as has been stated by others in past discussions on this topic, hold this place as a refuge; they simply do not want to know the political affiliations or positions of their fellow club members.

There will be many members here that agree with your observation that things are refreshing; however, there will be many others who do not share that view, and some of them will be upset that you even brought it up. There will be some who won't say anything in response, but will just close the browser window and look for some other refuge.

I find it wholly understandable that you would want to share with your friends here how you feel about the political climate. But as moderator, for the above stated reasons, I just don't think it is a good idea. I have stated this many times in the past, and the feedback that I get is that the club as a whole finds this position to be reasonable.

I spend hours every day in political blogs, and if you like discussing politics, a political blog is a wonderful place to do so. The political blog I spend the most time in is for me and many others a community. But that place is a different world than our community here.

We have a wonderful community here and as moderator I imperfectly try within the limitations of my ability to help keep it so. I hope you find my position on this matter reasonable.

[edit: spelling]

(Message edited by davehouck on January 28, 2009)

jet_powers · « **Reply #4 on:** January 28, 2009, 03:27:30 PM »

Sorry for taking the bait.

JP

glocke · « **Reply #5 on:** January 28, 2009, 03:39:35 PM »

I like grape jam...

lbpesq · « **Reply #6 on:** January 28, 2009, 05:02:24 PM »

Will the San Francisco 49ers EVER pick an offensive coordinator?

Bill, tgo

olieoliver · « **Reply #7 on:** January 28, 2009, 05:39:22 PM »

You can have ours Bill!

Of course this week I'm a Cardinals Fan.

OO

mike1762 · « **Reply #8 on:** January 28, 2009, 05:41:52 PM »

The weird thing is that I love strawberry flavored stuff, but I don't like strawberrys.

crgaston · « **Reply #9 on:** January 28, 2009, 06:43:04 PM »

Stockings!

rami · « **Reply #10 on:** January 28, 2009, 07:24:05 PM »

Let's wish the new President the best of luck for the daunting challenges ahead of him. His success is in everyone's best interest.

Plus, he seems like a nice guy.

dadabass2001 · « **Reply #11 on:** January 28, 2009, 09:50:29 PM »

Stockings and empty beer bottles pounding a beat...

... in a biker bar in july

flaxattack · « **Reply #12 on:** January 28, 2009, 11:56:13 PM »

what ever happened to free speech
dave and bob
if you dont wish to make comment- then dont
but dont sit there on your duffs telling me what i can or cannot or should not do

politics? the whole frkn world is about politics!
politics? we talkin politics?

alembic politics? dave's politics? bob's? ok 2 out of three...
whats wrong with what other's HERE think whats goin on?

if i wanted to go to political b.s. blogs- i would
DUH
sounds like a couple of youze guys are getting a little too full of yourselves....

there are 100s maybe 1000s who visit this site
so one or 2 people bitch- big deal

i would hope you might have better things to do
than whine about getting people to discuss the world around us

if anyone wants to bitch about my thread- email me directly

bassman10096 · « **Reply #13 on:** January 29, 2009, 04:38:10 AM »

[edited to remove inflamatory, enabling content]

(Message edited by bassman10096 on January 29, 2009)

pas · « **Reply #14 on:** January 29, 2009, 07:11:12 AM »

Two comments here:

Dave - I'm the person whose post you censored. It was in the Dead on tour thread. I basically used the incoming administration's espoused tax policies as a metaphor for the Dead's pre-election ticket prices ($50) versus their post-election prices ($100). I would like to say, as many have, that I think you do a mostly good and even handed job here as moderator. However, in many a previous comment you've found questionable, your response was graduated and courteous...with some sort of explanation, either public or private...not instant censorship. All I ask is that we have one set of rules for EVERYONE and that they be evenly applied. IMHO, your curt and INSTANT censorship of my post displayed YOUR bias. You may be the moderator, but don't kid yourself that you're neutral.

Flax - Well...one can of gas + one match = fire.