Author Topic: The Dead 04/14/09 (Read 162 times)

crobbins · « **on:** April 14, 2009, 06:06:35 PM »

Set 1

Cassidy >
Passenger > (warren vox)
Pride Of Cucamunga
Easy Wind > (wh)
Lazy River Road (bw & wh & pl)
Alabama Getaway >
Big Railroad Blues

cozmik_cowboy · « **Reply #1 on:** April 14, 2009, 07:55:08 PM »

Are these really short shows or really long jams?

Peter

crobbins · « **Reply #2 on:** April 14, 2009, 08:00:06 PM »

(set 2)
Peggy-O (acoustic)
Glory Road (acoustic)
A Hard Rain's Gonna Fall (acoustic)
Jam>
Dark Star>
King Solomon's Marbles>
Drums>
Space>
Come Together>
Dark Star>
Sugar Magnolia

(encore)
Uncle John's Band

artswork99 · « **Reply #3 on:** April 15, 2009, 08:15:07 AM »

I got a call this morning from a friend at the show last night and he tells me that Warren introduced the guest drummer - Tipper Gore!

zappahead · « **Reply #4 on:** April 16, 2009, 02:25:04 PM »

The music in the shows seemed shorter, not by a lot but it was shorter. The intermissions and breaks were long and the break between the acoustic set and the electric set was downright unprofessional. They followed it up with a prerecorded space jam which was ridiculous. Not a great show. It was pretty good on some levels, but there were long periods of mediocre music. Phil did sound great though. Warren could not bring it on the real long jams but he sounded really good on Alabama and Sugar.

phylo · « **Reply #5 on:** April 16, 2009, 03:57:55 PM »

What in thee name of all that is holy, is a pre-recorded jam?

zappahead · « **Reply #6 on:** April 16, 2009, 04:55:23 PM »

It was silly. They started out space with some pre-recorded space jam (no musicians on the stage just to clarify that). I think they did it because the switch from the acoustic set to the electric set was taking forever. It sounds like a good idea to do the acoustic set, but it meant another 20-30 minute intermission then a 10 minute prerecorded bit of space and then the band coming on. Bad. The flow of the show was destroyed with the acoustic set. You had a 30 minute intermission, a 30 minute acoustic set and then another intermission that was probably 20-30 minutes more. Then space and drums was over 45 minutes, which is just too long. My wife actually fell asleep. I know she is not a deadhead, but I take her to a lot of concerts where music is played that she does not really dig and she has never fallen asleep for even a second.

zappahead · « **Reply #7 on:** April 16, 2009, 05:04:35 PM »

Also, they ended the show with Uncle Johns band>Ripple

crobbins · « **Reply #8 on:** April 16, 2009, 08:27:18 PM »

Hotdog Haynes zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

flaxattack · « **Reply #9 on:** April 16, 2009, 09:43:33 PM »

this is why i am at the point of downloading the best imho of each show and not having to sit through drums.space.

cozmik_cowboy · « **Reply #10 on:** April 17, 2009, 04:31:57 AM »

Warren could not bring it on the real long jams

They started out space with some pre-recorded space jam

Probably a connection between the two, I'd think.

Peter

zappahead · « **Reply #11 on:** April 17, 2009, 09:04:09 AM »

Warren does sound great on some tunes, the more rock based stuff, but I think he needs another guitar player in the band for some of the other tunes. Warren can sing and he is great guitar player but he can't sustain it for 3+ hours like Jerry could on a good night. I have been listening to the download from the show and Warren did tear it up on Alabama and a lot of the first set but he got boring on the 2nd set on some of the tunes. The acoustic set also did not go over as well as has been reported. I think it ruined to show to be honest. I do think drums and space have outlived their purpose.

Don't even get me started on the ticket prices and the crowd either....

phylo · « **Reply #12 on:** April 17, 2009, 09:09:24 AM »

Jam>
Dark Star>
King Solomon's Marbles>
Drums>
Space>

Sounds miserable to me. Oh well. I'm still looking forward to the Gorge.

Seems to me that it would be hard for the boys to stay interested in that sequence, let alone keep an audience interested regardless of how dedicated. Unless Phil and Warren can really develop a dynamic rapport, I hope they cool it a bit.

Ken Kesey described the Dead audience as willing to accept hours of mediocre music for those moments of brilliance. One of the things that kept me interested in Garcia and the Dead was that they were always 'pushing' it and looking for new ground. It wasn't a nostalgia show by any means.

What we have here is a different animal imo. Fans and perhaps band alike are looking to pay a little homage. Of course things are different, its a different band.

I dont see the need to go exploring into the deepest jams for new ground. Its all new ground!

Stretching things out, syncopating, adding 'angles' to songs; that is the stuff I am all about. I would think that there is plenty of room there to keep it interesting. A set that is 2/3 jam seems like laziness to me.

Rant, rant, rant.

zappahead · « **Reply #13 on:** April 17, 2009, 05:15:54 PM »

Stretching things out, syncopating, adding 'angles' to songs; that is the stuff I am all about. I would think that there is plenty of room there to keep it interesting. A set that is 2/3 jam seems like laziness to me.

I was there and it was lazy. Especially consider the fact that they started the jam with pre-recorded music (about 10 minutes worth) and that Dark Star was not very good, space was not very good and that the drums weren't any good either.

I think with Warren they should have skipped all that and played to his strengths. Warren sounds so good on some tunes. The Dead need to can some songs, add some others and realize that they cannot play the same sets and do the same things they used to. With Warren there is a real opportunity to do something cool and different but I think they are missing the boat. I also look at some of the other set lists and this one looks like crap compared to the other nights.

lbpesq · « **Reply #14 on:** April 18, 2009, 08:53:03 AM »

You guys are making me feel better about passing this one up. The ticket prices and Warren by himself, (no second lead like Kimock or Herring to help with the spacier stuff), just smelled like we're-only-in-it-for-the-money to me. Your reports seem to confirm this. What a shame. As for me, I'm very much looking forward to the Allman Brothers in Oakland next month.

Bill, tgo