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« Reply #15 on: March 27, 2009, 07:02:53 PM »
The John Judge Bass is really one of the most iconic and recognizable instruments anywhere.  It's probably better known than John Judge himself!  I'm sure that if he wants it back, he can always make an offer to whoever the current custodian is.  It will always be his Bass and be known as the John Judge Bass.  I had the chance to purchase it around 2002 when it was up for sale.  I'm really sorry I let it go, but on the other hand, I would have felt uncomfortable owning it.  At least if John Judge gets a chance to buy it back, it'll still cost much less than what Alembic would charge to build a new one today.
 
Good luck John, I really look forward to seeing it in your hands once again.
 
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« Reply #16 on: March 27, 2009, 07:24:51 PM »
This image has been around here before, but it hangs in the hallway and always get noticed when I take folks on tours:
 

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« Reply #17 on: March 27, 2009, 08:09:46 PM »
Thank you gyonnii for the great history! I considered buying the John Judge bass about seven years ago when it was at G Guitars in Connecticut. It didn't end up happening, but I did end up with an earlier doubleneck which shares some characteristics - pistol grip, knobby pegheads - and differs in others - the necks on mine are parallel, the John Judge bass has that fantastic Omega-like cutout, dual pistol grips, etc.
 
I don't have any info on the original owner of my doubleneck, so it's really great to hear about the history of this one! Thanks again!

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« Reply #18 on: March 27, 2009, 08:20:39 PM »
Hi Harry,
 
I remember the previous owner of your doubleneck.  I considered buying it too.  I let it go because I had my Black Byrd Bass in the works.  It was a budget call at that time.  He's a pretty cool guy.  He was really into Foderas at the time.  I don't remember if he was the original owner though.  He sent me some great pictures of it.
I wonder if he regrets selling it as well....
 

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« Reply #19 on: March 28, 2009, 02:10:33 AM »
it has always been my understanding, too, that noone can really own that piece of history...
 
with the exception of the creators themselves, John Judge and/or Alembic.
 
have a nice weekend, my friends,
Christian

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« Reply #20 on: March 28, 2009, 06:26:06 AM »
It would be spectacular in their display case, alongside Stanley's original Brown Bass and John Entwistle's Spyder.

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« Reply #21 on: March 28, 2009, 08:03:46 AM »
I'm thinking it probably looks pretty spectacular in its current location.  The pictures certainly look nice.

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« Reply #22 on: March 28, 2009, 08:42:07 AM »
Good morning everyone...I just got off the phone with John Judge and he told me that last night he took sometime to read some of the club postings and wanted to thank everyone for their kind and gracious words about him and the Bass. John told me that he totally approves of what I am doing by posting information here just as long as it is fact's...So John said that I should post the story about how He and the Bass became an ad, who he met in the process and how he landed the deal with Superwound/Rotosound so that will be tomorrow's topic when I post, see you then
 
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« Reply #23 on: March 28, 2009, 08:51:22 AM »
yes please, Giovanni, post away ! and many greetings to John

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« Reply #24 on: March 28, 2009, 10:23:26 PM »
Well, this segment begins with John rehearsing for the road in New Jersey and new songs release talking about business over his managers house John took a ride with his manager to meet a friend of his named Dominic who was going to finance the recording and promote the project for release. While John was sitting there, he heard a knock on the door and as the door opened it was Clarence Clemmons and Jackson Browne who at the time were jamin down some tracks while the Boss was in off season taking a rest, well they all got to talkin and dominic asked John to pull out the double neck and play something so they can see and hear it, after about 5 minutes of playing they were smilin and whispering among themselves, then John heard Clarence saying to Dominic after a phone call we are all set., then they left.  John asked Dominic what were they talking about, his reply to John was that you are all set you are going to the NAMM show in Anahiem, CA and Clarence got you hooked up to stay at a flight attendent friends pad for 2 nights no charge right outside LAX airport. Well to make a long story short John played a Bass at one of the Booths there and before he knew it people started to gather around and listen to what he was doing, after he stopped playing a man approached him and said it was really pleasurable to hear you play and asked John if he would mind later coming by his both to play and handed John a card..It was Martin son of James Howe from Rotosound. Later when John went to the both and started to play more people watched John going at it.  When John stopped this time Martin introduced him to a friend who was with him from England and that friend was Gordon Sumner,. John told Martin about the custom Alembic Bass that he had built but it wasn't with him. Well after the show John and Martin kept close contact via phone calls Johns phone bill was sometimes $1000.00 in a month, Martin in turn supplied John with all types of strings to try and asked John if he would get some photo's taken of the Bass with these new sets of custom fitted strings he had sent him with directions on how to put them on. So John had the Band photographer take the pictures and they were sent off to Rotosound..the new strings of course were called Superwound. That next year John met Martin and his dad at the NAMM show in Atlanta and to John's astonishment there was a 5 foot likeness behind a curtain along with a release form to release the ad to Guitar player Magazine and International Musician, so after John signed the poster likeness was placed out and the deal was made. Shortly afterwards while John was playing ALfonso Johnson walked up and John instructed him to put his hands on the top fretless neck while John was playing the 8 string and the next thing he knew there was about 10 Japanese guys snapping away with Camera's..Martin afterwards said to John have you ever heard of the Police and John replied no and Martin said you are going to very soon, my friend Gordon that you met last year now goes by Sting now and they are rehearsing for there show and album just got released...Too much stuff here to tell...till next time  feel free if you have any questions or comments p.s. John told me to tell all of you that if this stuff gets boring then to let me know, he is afraid I am writing too much stuff for you to read just trying to fill in the gaps and questions you might have of the past Cheers everyone! oh yeah P>S> John got to meet Stanley Clarke that first NAMM show which at the time John really admired Stanleys work on the Piccolo Bass and it was his dream to meet him in person
 
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« Reply #25 on: March 28, 2009, 10:43:48 PM »
Keep it coming!  great stories...

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« Reply #26 on: March 29, 2009, 04:55:03 AM »
Keep em coming im on my third Beer..these stories are right on time

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« Reply #27 on: March 29, 2009, 01:24:12 PM »
Just an added piece of information, the John Judge Bass got stolen one time in a parking garage in New York City, John's manager was meeting him there and had left it in the back of his station wagon in a parking garage to go up to the studio to see if John was there yet..John was scheduled to track with Dan Hartman who was the former Edgar Winter Bassist on they only come out at night album and who was now playing keyboard and starting  a solo career (nobody wanted to carry the Bass around if they didn't have to ! way too heavy!) when he came back to his car,  his back window was smashed. He immediately called the Police who someone just happen to be a block away as the cop drove up around the parking lot he found a parking attendant in a van that he stopped to ask him if he seen anything and the attendant got nervous and fled the Van so the officer called for backup and looked inside and found the anvil case in the back ..So the Bass was unharmed but stolen  for about 15 minutes.  After that incident John never let anyone else transport it . He stored it under his Bed and was doubled locked inside when he left home. The robber was apprehended 1 day later. John came home the next day and I must of watched him polish the Bass 10 times as if it should of never got touched. He was a fanatic about the Bass back then. Because of this happening the police were able to catch 3 guys one that worked for the garage and 2 outsiders that were breaking into cars. I am not sure of the year, I will have to ask John but I am pretty sure it was 1980 or 81
 
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« Reply #28 on: April 03, 2009, 09:37:53 AM »
Hello everyone, I spoke with John Judge yesterday, and he will be back next friday so he informed me that he would love to talk with everyone and if there were any questions about the past or present, equipment, music or anything in general that he can ad or help someone with, just to feel free to ask and he will answer the best that he can, anyway 31 years later he will be registering as a new member here as an Alembic owner. John love's Alembic Basses and always will be his Bass of choice.

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« Reply #29 on: April 03, 2009, 10:35:10 AM »
A very cool story!