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« Reply #45 on: December 02, 2007, 09:44:28 PM »
Im sorry to hear that Hal,  
 
when you live through that kind of experience you fully understand what real sadness and loss is!
 
The world just keeps turning and everyone else goes about their business as usual..you feel like screaming dont you know what has happened?
 
Yeah, its life, its deep and its hard to understand at times

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« Reply #46 on: December 02, 2007, 09:52:35 PM »
Bradley; I'm sitting here trying to craft a response to your question, but I keep deleting my attempts.
 
I've been thinking about this for well over an hour now, probably close to two, and there are a lot of things that I want to say to address your question, but there's no way I can get it in a post of reasonable length.  And it would take a very long time to write.
 
That attachment causes suffering is observable (for instance it's fairly well observable in divorce court).  But that's not to say that attachment is wrong or even that suffering is bad.  (By the way, for those of you unfamiliar with the distinction, in this context suffering is not the same thing as pain.)  I think that the important thing here is the awareness that attachment causes suffering.  It seems to me that our culture here in the US (I've never lived in another country) promotes the idea that you can buy happiness, and it seems to me that a lot of people just accept this unquestioningly.  It seems to me that a lot of people are unhappy with where they are in life at this very moment, and are always looking for the next thing that will make them happy.  But that happiness is fleeting.  Still they keep at it, one thing after another, always pursuing but never arriving.  It never occurs to them that they can fully and compassionately accept who they are right now; that tool has never been available to them, they're not aware of the concept.  And it runs counter to a culture based on consumerism.
 
Yes, there are people with whom I have very close relationships; and being separated from them can be sad.  But that's ok.  I can fully accept with an open heart who and where I am right now, attachments, suffering and all.
 
I think of love as being selfless.  There is a teaching, a tool, that love is not jealous or boastful, which to me is similar to saying that love is selfless.  Attachment, as I use the word, is not selfless.  It seems to me that you can fully and selflessly love someone, and at the same time also be attached to that person.  Thus it hurts to be separated from someone with whom you are very close, but love is not jealous; we can fully accept the situation with an open heart.  Because who and where we are at this very moment is all there is.
 
It seems to me that for many people, love is not selfless, but is based on attachment itself.  And it seems that in such a case, when separated from the person to whom they are attached, the suffering is not acceptable.  And it further seems to me that for many people the reason that this is the case is that the tools of compassion and acceptance have never been made available to them.  When someone pulls out in front on them in traffic, they get pissed off, they react in anger, they're thinking about what a jerk the other driver is.  That's always been the way the world works for them.  They are not aware that there would even be another way to react.  The tools have not been made available to them.  That's who they are right now.  That's ok.  Perhaps someday they will discover tools, teachings, practices, that will enable them to pause before reacting, to see the situation without attachment and to accept the other driver for who that person is right now.
 
And perhaps some people will find that love isn't just attachment, but is fully and selflessly accepting someone for who they are right now.  And that we can fully accept everyone for who they are right now; that we can love one another; that we can have compassion for all beings.
 
The very fact that we are where we are right now, sitting in front of our computer monitors, on this little planet, zooming around this particular star, in this section of this one particular arm in this particular spiral galaxy, itself hurtling through the universe with countless other galaxies, .. is pretty amazing.  This one moment right now, is simply amazing.

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« Reply #47 on: December 03, 2007, 05:26:32 AM »
Thanks John.  
 
I believe, Love could not exist, if we lived forever. I say this beacuse our understanding of time and how precious life's definite directions are guided, focus our attentions in sharing time with others and taking nothing for granted (For those people, that do..., are not ready for this reality). Time is more valuable than anyone really realizes; and in some cases even want to know.
 
As with things, people, and places there's no guilt in wanting substance, and true love.

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« Reply #48 on: December 03, 2007, 01:44:40 PM »
Love and fulfillment are the things that we spend so much of our lifetimes searching for,
 
We should never feel guilty about enjoying fulfillment when we are lucky enough to find it because it often doesnt last for too long!
 
As Joe Zawinul (rip) said Man, its all part of the picture. Good and bad. You have to experience it all. Without bad we cannot appreciate good. Without bad there is no good!
 
And that from a man who at the age of 11 had to pull his neighbours body parts out of rubble and eat rats to survive during WW2!

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« Reply #49 on: December 03, 2007, 04:14:43 PM »
Josef Zawinul died?
 
Ah man...NO YOU ARE KIDDING ME!!!  
Wait a minute... (I got to look that up!!!!)....
 
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He died this year 9/11/07
 
What a wonderful person and a wondeful life.  
May Peace Be Upon Him and his family.

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« Reply #50 on: December 03, 2007, 10:18:15 PM »
hendixclarke, I had the same reaction when I first heard the Dixie Dregs. I had heard Alembic basses in person first at Grateful Dead shows in the 70s, but in 1980, when I was going to UC Santa Cruz, the Dixie Dregs played at the Coconut Ballroom and Andy West was just amazing. Very clear punchy sound. Shortly after, he went to a Steinberger and when I moved back to Boston, his Alembic was for sale for quite some time at Cambridge Music Center. I played it a bunch in the store, but it didn't really talk to me. It was a medium scale, btw.
 
I finally got my Series I for $750 in 1995. It spoke to me!
 
Edwin

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« Reply #51 on: December 03, 2007, 11:09:32 PM »
$750!!!! DAAAAMMMM!
 
That price alone, I wouldn't care if the thing needed new pickups, tuning machines, volume controls, or even new frets what a steal!

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« Reply #52 on: December 04, 2007, 08:03:18 AM »
Whitecloud - I guess you saw that documentary on Joe which was on BBC3 a couple of years ago..when I found out Joe had died it had the same effect on me when my dad died..I felt a total loss upon me. So much talent gone but what a wonderful legacy he left for us all to enjoy.

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« Reply #53 on: December 04, 2007, 08:32:23 AM »
Zawinul's passing left me with a very empty feeling.  What a composer & innovator.  I was was fortunate to see him several times at Blues Alley in DC, including his last stop there - a 4 night stand - in late '06.  
 
A Remark You Made is one of my all time favorite pieces...

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« Reply #54 on: December 04, 2007, 08:52:52 AM »
John:
 
Love and fulfillment are the things that we spend so much of our lifetimes searching for
 
In my view, they are right here available to each of us in the present moment at any time; there is nothing to search for.
 
We should never feel guilty
 
In my view, I agree.  Guilting ourselves or others is not compassion.  Compassion is fully accepting ourselves and others for who we are right now.
 
In my view:
 
Fulfillment, to use your term, is all around us all of the time; there is nothing to search for.  It's not something that we have to spend money for or plan for or worry about getting.  It's right here right now.  When we quiet the mind, when we allow the chatter that's constantly going on inside our minds to cease, when we can be still and present right now, then we can fully experience the world around us.
 
In my view, being lucky enough to find it has nothing to do with it.  It's right here, right now.
 
Go outside; if it's cold, put your coat on.  Sit down on the porch and just breath.  Don't think about anything, just breath.  Be with the trees, the cool air, the warmth of the sun, the stars, the moon, the Earth.  Be with your breath.  Just be present right now.  There's nothing to think about, or plan for, or worry about, or regret, or to be upset about.  The immense beauty found in everything is always here, if we can just be present right now instead of always thinking about something else, of being somewhere else, of being somehow different.  When we are always caught up in these stories we tell ourselves, this endless chatter that our minds are constantly making up, we miss what's happening right now.
 
As the air that fills and joins our lungs constantly demonstrates, we are not separate from the world around us.  And at any time during the day, we can experience that fulfillment of being fully present, even with something as simple as washing dishes or sweeping the porch.
 
But again, that's just my view.  Others will have different views.

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« Reply #55 on: December 04, 2007, 09:56:02 AM »
Personally, I can't stand solos unless they are a key part of the song, such as the bass solo in My Generation or a guitar solo in most rock songs. If it's a situation where a musician is doing some long drawn out solo such as at many rock concerts, it doesn't matter if it's bass, drums, guitar or who is playing them, I find them boring. I hate listening to them and can only tolerate them for 20 or 30 seconds. In my opinion, the only reason for doing a solo is for self indulgence on the part of the musician.

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« Reply #56 on: December 04, 2007, 11:15:02 AM »
This is a great subject to comment on. I myself get asked to play solos all the time. I will usually do one in between songs to make the crowd happy but sometimes we will all go around and do one in a song. Usually everyone takes on for abot 20 seconds and its over.

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« Reply #57 on: December 04, 2007, 11:51:37 AM »
I was totally gutted when I heard of the death of Joe Zawinul, he was an incredible composer. His music touched me very deeply and I guess thats the best compliment I can pay him!
 
Interestingly enough, JZ never felt obliged to take many solos despite incredible chops. I suppose he had the luxry of mostly sitting back and letting his incredible sidemen grab the solos. That shows great maturity as a musician and as a person, it showed his lack of any musical insecuritys!

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« Reply #58 on: December 04, 2007, 12:02:14 PM »
I love all solos (good, bad and ugly).  I get hyped playing them, and its a time when others in the band break out and start stretchin.  
 
Some songs were completely designed for the a solo and I love them. I think of the Funkadelics with the song Knee deep in how Michael Hampton smoothly merges into a groove then BAM!! he's moves our listening attention to his solo.  
 
If you're in to Funk, that song is a great example of moving from a funk groove, into a metal rock drive! George Clinton was a master here.
 
Frank Zappa (RIP) has done this so damn well too with his members.  
 
Solo's are very important to me and will always be...

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« Reply #59 on: December 04, 2007, 01:30:29 PM »
I agree with hendixclarke..solos are good, they stretch you musically, all music types has solos, no more so than classical where they were written by composers who didn't play the solo instrument but wrote them so the musician could interpret and perform them to the best of their ability.
If it wasn't for solos then every song would be another boring pop/muzak song which graces the charts.
Rockbassist - are you in a band? and if so your guitarist must do a solo at some point??  And of course it's self indulgence, why not, we all earn it at some point..bring 'em on!!!!!!!!