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benson_murrensun

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« Reply #45 on: August 12, 2010, 10:19:57 AM »
Has anybody had much luck with the Boss SYB5 Bass Synth pedal? The sounds I get out of mine are pretty gnarly, and I am thinking of selling it. Maybe I am doing something wrong.

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« Reply #46 on: August 13, 2010, 07:06:54 PM »
I've tried it and didn't like at all... Too weird sounds and most of them not much useful. Then I bought that Digitech's Bass Synth Wha just to find it was also uncool (they both got all this nasty digital artifacts that I hate). So I sold it after a month and gave up using effects for sometime.
 
Now I go with a Boss Octaver (OC3) trough a Dunlop Bass Wha and a EH Envelope Filter (Q-Tron) and they fit me all the Synth Bass sound I need, although I'm still in the quest for the perfect Bass Fuzz to complete my ideal pedalboard.
 
Don't think you're using it wrong, they simply don't deliver what they should.
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« Reply #47 on: August 15, 2010, 11:41:31 AM »
Has anybody had much luck with the Boss SYB5 Bass Synth pedal? The sounds I get out of mine are pretty gnarly, and I am thinking of selling it. Maybe I am doing something wrong.
 
I've played nearly every bass synth effect on the market.  I kept searching for something that was comparable to the synth effect that is built into the SWR Mini Mo' preamp.  No one makes a synth pedal that sounds as good, tracks as well, and is dirt simple to get good sounds out of.
 
I was not impressed by the Boss SYB5.  I found it tracked poorly and overall the sounds left something to be desired.
 
I've got two synth pedals and I'm pleased with both of them:
 
Akai Deep Impact - Sadly no longer made this synth pedal is fabulous.  Tracks very well and has a lot of useful tones at its disposal.  The learning curve for programming/editting sounds isn't terribly steep.  I was able to get the primary sounds I use out of it in an afternoon of playing around.  The manual is pretty worthless but it doesn't really matter terribly.  I'm sure some of you are probably familiar with Phish's cover of Boogie On Reggae Woman - this is the pedal Mike Gordon uses to replicate Stevie's left hand.  Funky.  They currently go for ~$400USD on the ebays.  There are two up there right now which is pretty amazing.  I searched for over 6 months before I found mine.
 
Chunk Systems Octavius Squeezer - This thing is nothing short of amazing.  It is also expensive at $600.  It also requires a degree in electrical engineering to program.  Maybe not that last bit - but it does have a steep ass learning curve.  I have spent hours screwing around with it and still wouldn't consider myself good at programming it.  From what I understand it's a lot like programming an old Moog synth.  It's capable of a massive array of sounds.  It tracks better than any other synth or octaver pedal I've ever heard/owned/used.  It's insanely accurate and fast.
 
Back to the SWR Mini Mo'.  I would wipe out a small country for a pedal version of the synth section of that preamp.  It's impossible to get a bad sound out of it and the learning curve is non-existent.  It's so simple to dial in a sound.  SWR (Bryan Beller primarily) really did a bang up job when they designed this preamp.  If only I liked the rest of the preamp as much as the synth section.

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« Reply #48 on: August 15, 2010, 12:05:27 PM »
I've played a Squeezer. It's the only synth pedal I've ever tried that I thought could sound good. It does seem to be some sort of a combination of effects pedal and IQ test. My friend sold his because he was so confused by it.

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« Reply #49 on: August 15, 2010, 06:19:46 PM »
So I recently picked up a Gio, which is just a USB guitar/bass interface for Mac. I use it through GarageBand, but it works with ableton live and other editing software. Anyway, I'm pretty much just using it to turn my laptop into any effect pedal I need. With the effects in GarageBand, you can 'build' literally hundreds of different effects, not to mention the hundred or so that are already on there. It's pretty effing cool, not cheap, though. Been playing my Distillate that I recently turned tenor to record and make some new sounds, and honestly I've never had an alembic that sounds as good.

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« Reply #50 on: August 16, 2010, 10:09:49 AM »
I find the Octavius Squeezer MUCH more difficult to program than a Moog! A Moog has the knobs all laid out, the Octavius you have to dig in to various menus. Even having worked with several Moog synths and pedals, I haven't had much luck with the Octavius. In fact, I got it so that I wouldn't have to hook up so many pedals, but for the time being it sits on a shelf while my MoogerFoogers continue to be used...

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« Reply #51 on: August 16, 2010, 01:51:03 PM »
Apparently all agree that the Boss SYB5 sucks. Anybody want to buy mine?  Heh heh. Craigslist here I come.

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« Reply #52 on: August 16, 2010, 02:38:43 PM »
I have grave reservations about trying to imitate keyboard bass or Moog bass on bass guitar anyway...it's just not going to sound as good. Part of what makes keyboard bass sound the way it does is it's so clean and even. Fingers plucking strings is just a different idea.

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« Reply #53 on: August 17, 2010, 07:39:16 PM »
My question is: are bass players emulating keyboards or was them who tried to sound as Larry Grahamm and Bootsy did?
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« Reply #54 on: August 17, 2010, 08:10:59 PM »
Yeah, I think that's a good question, and the real difference. I wouldn't include the Mutron/Qtron etc. in with the wannabe synths like the Boss SYB5. Maybe it's a fine line. A low pass filter with an envelope seems different than an entire synth in a box where there really isn't any of the original characteristics of the bass guitar coming through anymore. YMMV.

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« Reply #55 on: August 18, 2010, 01:42:14 AM »
Mario...I'm still in the quest for the perfect Bass Fuzz to complete my ideal pedalboard.
 
I searched for ages to find a decent bass distortion even though I only use it for one song (Muse .. Hysteria). I tried the EH bass big muff pi, danelectro cool cat, EH Bass Blogger, Ashdown bass drive and a couple of others including BOSS and Behringer. I never yet found a pedal that really worked for the full range of the bass so I ended up buying an ampeg SVP preamp and split the signal between that and my fender TBP1. Now when I want a really nice overdrive I can turn it up on the ampeg and get exactly what I want - (note: it's not fuzz).
One of the main benefits has been the ampeg adding a bit of colour to the overall sound - the Fender gives a really nice thump but takes a bit of work to get it rocking.
 
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« Reply #56 on: August 18, 2010, 08:51:49 PM »
Great idea spliting it, Graeme!
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« Reply #57 on: August 19, 2010, 12:21:23 PM »
In my case the idea of using a bass synth pedal is not to imitate anything in particular, just to get an interesting, pleasing synthesized sound. I don't play keyboards anyway... so getting it that way is not an option. I have my hands full with a plank of wood and 4 strings!