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David Houck

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« Reply #45 on: July 18, 2008, 06:51:21 PM »
Thanks Doc!

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« Reply #46 on: July 18, 2008, 07:22:41 PM »
More Chinese innovations: spaghetti & trans-oceanic navigation.  And my previous post wasn't claiming Chinese innovation in electric guitars - just an acceptable price:quality ratio that owes to both their improvement & the decline of the major American manufacturers.  Hand craftsmanship is another matter and, as Dave points out, a human, not nationalist, matter.
 
Peter
 
PS - Allow me to second Brother Flowers's post!  My, oh my!
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« Reply #47 on: July 19, 2008, 07:08:39 AM »
A bit of a deviation... Workers in this country were underpaid and exploited for many years; therefore, along came the unions.  The unions gained power and did improve the life of American workers.  Look at the auto industry... those were some of the best blue collar jobs you could have. However, as we all know...Power Corrupts.  The labor costs got so out of hand in the auto industry that they packed their stuff and went elsewhere.  Then our government decided that was OK and many other industries followed suit (I can tell you that NAFTA DECIMATED the textile industry in my hometown).  Now we (Americans) are able to buy cheap products made overseas, but we have lost the manufacturing base of our economy.  Therefore, the working class is un/underemployed and can't buy anything!!!  Despite this, we were told for the past few decades that the economy was doing great (not right this second of course).  Understand that what they meant was that the STOCK MARKET was doing great.  The stock market IS NOT a valid measure of how well the average Joe on the street is doing economically.  We are now paying the piper for bad decisions made years ago.  So... what does this have to do with guitars?  Fender, Gibson, etc answer to their stockholders and are doing what it takes to turn a profit.  You can't exploit an American worker, but it's OK to exploit a Chinese worker.  For a kid buying his first guitar, an American made instrument isn't even an option.  Even for me, I don't like to feel like I'm pissing money away.  I paid about $300 for a new MIM Strat... I put some Lace Sensors in it ($100)and changed to some locking tuners ($80).  I couldn't be more pleased.  However by doing so, I have supported the economic policies that I contend are ruining this country.

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« Reply #48 on: July 19, 2008, 07:55:56 AM »
The stock market IS NOT a valid measure of how well the average Joe on the street is doing economically.
 
Hit it on the nose.
 
John

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« Reply #49 on: July 19, 2008, 11:19:40 AM »
At this time I would like to gently suggest that perhaps we are moving a bit into the arena of political discourse, for which there are many much more appropriate venues.
 
I spend as much time on political blog sites as I do here; and there, the discussions among like minded partisans are not pretty, in fact they can get downright ugly.  And that's among individuals of like minded political ideologies; which is not the demographic here.
 
If I may suggest, there are a number and variety of places on the internet where one can write one's own blog and invite discussion.  It is certainly understandable that we may wish to discuss issues that we consider highly important with our friends here.  So I'm thinking that perhaps including a link in one's profile to one's political blog would be a way of doing that.
 
I tend to post things here from time to time that could reasonably be construed as contrary to my remarks in this post.  For instance my remarks above about sustainable local economies could be construed by some, and not unreasonably so, as a political position.  And I do fairly often let slide remarks by others that also push the envelope.  I admit to being inconsistent.  Because I see on a daily basis the tenor of political discussion in other blogs, I really like the idea of keeping our place here relatively free of that genre.  On the other hand, I do feel very strongly about our planet and the people on it, and consequently feel the desire to share my views.  However, there are times when I want to get away from politics, and be someplace where I can relax among friends; and our group here is such a place.  My guess is that many of the members here share that view.
 
For me, one of the things about our group that has been most rewarding is its significant international participation.  Here, we are a community of musicians.  We are not constrained by political boundaries or ideologies.  Here we share a special kindredship in our love and appreciation of music.  Rhythm and harmony stir our souls, and ground us in our common humanity.
 
Speaking of which, I haven't picked up my Alembic yet today.  I better go do that right now!
 
Thanks for reading.  I hope you don't find my comments too unreasonable.  And have a wonderful morning, afternoon, evening, wherever on our planet you happen to be at the moment.

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« Reply #50 on: July 19, 2008, 02:41:27 PM »
Sorry about that Dave.  I'll get us back on track....
 

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« Reply #51 on: July 19, 2008, 03:10:13 PM »
Sooo... the Chinese invented the Mona Lisa smile as well?
 
 
Mike
 
P.S. Dave, I like your mindset.
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« Reply #52 on: July 19, 2008, 04:32:37 PM »
Mike1762, I do like the way you think!  ;)
 
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« Reply #53 on: July 19, 2008, 08:26:29 PM »
So who is she Mike?  
 
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« Reply #54 on: July 20, 2008, 04:10:12 AM »
I don't know... I googled Hot Chinese Chick (LOL).  I have a minor (ie major) Asian fetish that my wife is good enough to barely tolerate.  I just get to look though!!!

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« Reply #55 on: July 21, 2008, 11:53:09 AM »
The Chinese produce great Kung Fu movies

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« Reply #56 on: July 22, 2008, 12:53:21 AM »
Well -  
 
I was principally talking about Korean and Japanese instruments, but I suppose China is just as relevant to this thread also!  
 
Be careful folks - China was an incredibly powerful and advanced nation when the US was yet to be discovered for many hundreds of years - and inhabited primarily by millions of buffalo
 
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« Reply #57 on: July 22, 2008, 07:47:27 AM »
Well, John, China was indeed powerful and advanced before what is now the US was invaded by Europeans - but it wasn't discovered, as at that time it was also inhabited by millions of humans, who were quite aware of it's existence!
 
Peter
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« Reply #58 on: July 22, 2008, 07:52:07 AM »
America Cat Sunflower?
Korea Cat Sunflower?
Japan Cat Sunflower?
Sierra Leone Cat Sunflower?
 
Nah.  It's gotta be China!
 
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« Reply #59 on: July 22, 2008, 08:10:32 AM »
I know I know, dont take offence guys - I was messing