Author Topic: Wood Toxins & Symptoms (Read 402 times)

toma_hawk01 · « **Reply #15 on:** September 08, 2011, 08:10:38 AM »

Don't insult me with Garrett Morgan being the first to drive a car, and not mention his inventions of the Traffic Light/Signal.

Garrett inventions saved lives of all people, in spite of the bull sh_t racist rules held against him in all facets of American life.

Peace and Love,

Hal-

jacko · « **Reply #16 on:** September 08, 2011, 08:19:21 AM »

Hal. There's no insult intended. It was merely an observation based on commentary from the source I happened to be reading. In my opinion it's quite an interesting point.
Again you are being selective with your facts. According to all the sources I've read, Morgan's design for a traffic signal was never put into production ( - I'm happy to be proved wrong here) and the first traffic signal in america was designed by lester Wire in salt lake city in 1912.

peace and Love right back at you.

Graeme

toma_hawk01 · « **Reply #17 on:** September 08, 2011, 08:35:25 AM »

Now you'd just copied my closing words too.

LMAO!

Peace and Love,

Hal-

toma_hawk01 · « **Reply #18 on:** September 08, 2011, 08:51:11 AM »

Wrong again, I see...

Morgan's idea was in production everywhere.

http://www.fhwa.dot.gov/education/gamorgan.htm

Peace and Love,

Hal-

hydrargyrum · « **Reply #19 on:** September 08, 2011, 09:18:46 AM »

It seems that one of the earliest traffic lights (and to be clear, this faulty light was not the style patented by Morgan) had some failures as a safety device.

On December 10, 1868, the first traffic lights were installed outside the British Houses of Parliament in London, by the railway engineer J. P. Knight. They resembled railway signals of the time, with semaphore arms and red and green gas lamps for night use. The gas lantern was turned with a lever at its base so that the appropriate light faced traffic. Unfortunately, it exploded on 2 January 1869, injuring[3] or killing[4] the policeman who was operating it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traffic_light

toma_hawk01 · « **Reply #20 on:** September 08, 2011, 11:09:18 AM »

Question:

Under who's authority is this information deem correct?

Answer:

Wikipedia's validations, for it wouldn't be published, if it was not correct!

LMAO!

Peace and Love,

Hal-

toma_hawk01 · « **Reply #21 on:** September 08, 2011, 11:12:19 AM »

You can't have it both ways...

Y'all playing games. I thank GOD I know better.

Peace and Love,

Hal-

jacko · « **Reply #22 on:** September 08, 2011, 12:20:51 PM »

Hal. According to the link YOU posted, Garrett was not the first to INVENT a traffic signal, just the first (in the US) to patent such a device.

Going back to respirators, there are many 'Non-Wikepedia' authorities confirming that Lewis P Haslett was issued US patent no 6529 in 1849, some 63 years before Morgan's. (patent no 1113675 in 1912 for his firefighter's safety hood and patent no 1090936 in 1914 for his gas mask). However, I defy anyone to find any of these documents on the US patent office website.

Suffice to say, we're all very grateful to everyone who had a hand in producing these devices. I'm particularly pleased that recent developments allow me to use a canister based respirator to paint Isocyanates instead of having to hook up a full airfed breathing system.

Graeme

hydrargyrum · « **Reply #23 on:** September 08, 2011, 12:21:33 PM »

I don't think anyone is trying to claim that Morgan wasn't a skilled inventor, but even the article you linked to states that he didn't invent the first traffic light, but rather he improved upon it. Prior to Morgan's invention, most of the traffic signals in use featured only two positions: Stop and Go . . . The Morgan traffic signal was a T-shaped pole unit that featured three positions: Stop, Go and an all-directional stop position. The third position halted traffic in all directions before it allowed travel to resume on either of the intersection's perpendicular roads.

Wikipedia certainly needs to be approached with a certain amount of skepticism, but in this instance there are 36 references, and almost all of them have hyperlinks to view the original source material. Many of these are from foreign sources, and I can't imagine why they would care to fabricate such information.

**Edit: I think that Graeme and I must have posted within seconds of each other. Sorry for the nearly identical content.**

(Message edited by hydrargyrum on September 08, 2011)

toma_hawk01 · « **Reply #24 on:** September 08, 2011, 12:49:57 PM »

LOL!!!!

You guys are funny as hell!!!

I needed a good laugh too!

I could always count on you two!
HAA HAAA!!!

Peace and Love,

Hal-

hydrargyrum · « **Reply #25 on:** September 08, 2011, 12:58:23 PM »

The feeling is mutual Hal.

Peace and Love,

Kevin

lbpesq · « **Reply #26 on:** September 08, 2011, 01:54:06 PM »

From Starman:

Red means stop
Green means go
Yellow means go very fast

Bill, tgo

David Houck · « **Reply #27 on:** September 08, 2011, 05:21:36 PM »

Bill; I thought that was a really cool movie; and the line about the stoplight very memorable. Thanks for that!

I think we all now know much more about the history of gas masks and stop lights than we did when we first awoke this morning. And given the somewhat heated nature of some portions of the discussion, I think it not unreasonable to suggest that we give these topics a bit of a rest, happy to have learned new things about the world we share.

jacko · « **Reply #28 on:** September 09, 2011, 01:40:00 AM »

My apologies to all and especially to you Hal. No offence is ever intended.

Graeme