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funkyjazzjunky

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« Reply #15 on: February 28, 2012, 12:43:45 PM »
I am a fan of Ampeg SVT, Carvin, and Acoustic. (If you can find a Mesa Boogie 400+ grab it)
 
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« Reply #16 on: February 28, 2012, 01:17:55 PM »
I used an Acoustic 370 for years.  Perfect amp for nailing that Jaco tone, exceeded only by the 360 if you can find one.  
 
I played through the Mark Bass and Genz Benz Streamliner before settling on the Carvin.  My brother has an identical unit, so I was actually able to give it a test run before spending the money.  My Ampeg B5R is now my son's to use.  The Carvin trumps all imho and weighs something like six pounds.
 
The Boogie stuff is great, but tube amps sure are heavy.
 
John

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« Reply #17 on: February 28, 2012, 01:56:51 PM »
Wow- I used to use an Acoustic 360 (cloth flappy grill)with a 2 x 15 cab years ago.  That was after HH similar but less flappy grill.  Anyone remember that?  I traded the Acoustic in for a Trace Elliot at Romford Essex UK, one of the first.  Have to say I am glad my many Trace years of trying to sort out Graphic EQ 7 and 12  ended before my sanity left me.  Even the Mark Bass was easier but yes, still knocked away with GB Streamliner - I have probably said that already!! Glynn

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« Reply #18 on: February 28, 2012, 02:15:33 PM »
Michael: I have used the Markbass II with my Series I with good results and currently using the TC Electronic 750 which sounds excellent with Series I electronics running through it. Tuner, mute switch, direct DI, 750 watts, small footprint.   Matt

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« Reply #19 on: February 29, 2012, 02:03:07 PM »
Thanks Matt.  I am going to google the TC stuff now.  I am not familiar with that brand.
Michael
 
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« Reply #20 on: February 29, 2012, 06:21:57 PM »
I saw the TC unit at NAMM a couple of years ago and it looked like the shiznitz.  Didn't get to hear it though.

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« Reply #21 on: February 29, 2012, 09:20:41 PM »
I've used Gallien-Krueger amps for at least 40 years. I've had 3 or 4 of them. In general just a natural tone. You hear what the bass does. No weird out-of-phase nasality or resonances or hollowness. The controls are at perfect frequencies. At the moment I'm using the MB^2 500. I either play through a pair of Thiel 1-15 cabs w/JBLs, or I can use my Euphonic Audio 1-12 with the co-axial horn for rehearsals. I'm not sold on the Backline stuff though.
 
I also really like my Euphonic Audio iAmp 500 'stack' because of the weight (or lack thereof). 500 watts in a 1-12 combo, with a 1-12 extension cab. Big sound out of small cabs, even outdoors. I can bypass the EQ entirely and still have perfect tone.

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« Reply #22 on: March 01, 2012, 12:29:54 AM »
Alembic or SMS or Eden pre/Crown power amp and fEARful 15/6/1 cabinet (with a 12/6/1 if necessary). Loud, light and very hifi. It goes deep like no other rig I've played through, except maybe Mike Gordon's Meyer rig, but it probably weighs 1/6 of what that does.
 
http://greenboy.us/fEARful/faq.htm

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« Reply #23 on: March 01, 2012, 11:58:41 AM »
That 12/6/1 looks like the answer for 99% of my gigs.  Price is right as well, especially for the kits.  Gonna have to sell some stuff first though!
 
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« Reply #24 on: March 01, 2012, 01:20:55 PM »
The 12/6 with a solid 500 watts will get stupid loud (120 dB). The 15/6 will:
 
1) get louder for given input
2) take more power
 
I think it's a crying shame to play an Alembic through anything less; your hifi instrument deserves hifi reproduction.
 
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« Reply #25 on: March 01, 2012, 03:00:25 PM »
If you are interested in hifi style cab.s you should check out Acme. These are sold as bass cabs but are +/-3dB from 41Hz to 22kHz and -6dB @ 31Hz.
 
They have better bottom end extension than ANY bass cab I've heard (except the Accugroove El Whappo or Whappo Grande - but Accugroove is defunct now).
 
As the owner of a bass shop I could play anything. For hifi on steroids Acme is the way to go.
 
http://acmebass.com/

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« Reply #26 on: March 01, 2012, 08:24:01 PM »
Thanks everyone on all the recommendations.  I am more confused now than ever.  I am really looking into a small lightweight amp head.  I like to hear all of the cabinet suggestions too as I will probably pick up an entire rig.
 
The fearful stuff seems like it would be a nice way to go with some high power head.  But, I am looking for small and light weight.  I would think that those cabs are on the large side.  Heavy?
 
I got to try out an Acme cab in person.  It was truly amazing.  I was even considering picking up a couple a while back.  The only thing that stopped me is that, and I could be way off base here, it seems that all the used ones for sale mention that they were recently repaired or reconed.  Hmmmm. Will I buy a set and blow them up?  Seems like a common problem.  No?
 
Michael

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« Reply #27 on: March 01, 2012, 09:24:44 PM »
I like Acme cabinets and Andy is great to work with, but I found that they are not as efficient as the fEARfuls. I went through a lot of woofers with my Acme cabs. If I were into a more old school tone, I'd probably go for a pair of the Flatwound cabs he makes. I played through one and it sounded really nice for that type of tone. But, Dave, I suggest that you might try a fEARful before you write it out of the Accugroove class. I've played through those and the fEARful is in that realm in my experience.
 
I don't think other cabinets have taken into account dispersion the way the fEARfuls have. While my Acmes sounded amazing right in front of them, off to the side, they were a little muddy. These cabinets sound great all over the stage. The rest of the band can now hear every note I play with equal clarity and a full tonal spectrum. I've never heard other bass cabs with this kind of dispersion. They are designed so that when you combine them, the comb filtering is kept to an absolute minimum (you can see the mirror image mid/high arrangement in the pic below) and each frequency is projected as from a point source. The crossover components are more like giant hifi components rather than the standard bass guitar cab fare.
 
Another amazing thing is that the fEARful cabinets are stupid light. My 15/6/1 weighs less than my Acme Low B2 did and the 12/6/1 is even lighter. I didn't even put a handle on it. If you peruse the Talkbass Amps forum you'll find people making these out of composite and are well south of 40lb for a 15/6. It's so much fun asking people to pick these up and watching them brace themselves and then almost throw them at the ceiling! My 1995 Subaru wagon can now pass other cars going over the mountain passes out here in Colorado. It wasn't so easy hauling commercial cabinets.
 

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« Reply #28 on: March 02, 2012, 11:22:33 AM »
I have an Acme cab, and consider the fEarful 12/6 to be:
 
Lighter
More efficient
Stronger midrange
It does not go as deep as the Acme, but this is a distinctly non-simple equation. It goes way deeper than any other commercial cab, and is quite comparable to the Acme.
 
With a Shuttle 9.0, it will cause physical pain.
 
If you want small, check out the thunderchild: http://www.audiokinesis.com/product_ak_thunderchild112.html
 
Slightly less low, but everything I've heard is that it's pure magic. Duke (the creator) is super smart, a nice guy, and comes from the Hifi cabinet world (check out his other stuff on Audiokinesis).
 
Bradley
 
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« Reply #29 on: March 02, 2012, 02:15:16 PM »
Michael,  
Just a quick question on the WT550. Have you tried cleaning all of the connection jacks on the back panel?  These are known to oxidize on all Eden heads and preamps whether you use them or not. It makes all sorts of bad noise when my Navigator needs cleaning. I just shoot some Caigs DeOxit into the jacks and exercise them to clean. It's a cheap thing to try.  
 
Otherwise, I personally would stay away from Carvin. While the tone was good I have found they they aren't the most road worthy and I'm not rough on equipment. While I don't own one I have used the Genz Benz Shuttle on several occasions and would buy one if I were in the market.
 
Have you thought about something like a Sans amp and light weight amp such as a QSC PLX 1804?  
 
Keith