Author Topic: Could you imagine if they made bass cabs? (Read 1173 times)

fmm · « **Reply #45 on:** July 30, 2012, 06:22:17 AM »

They were actually pretty much even with the back of the stage. We did not get feedback, I have no idea why. It should not ahve worked, but it did.

keith_h · « **Reply #46 on:** July 30, 2012, 07:32:25 AM »

Mindido,
I transposed the numbers and letters, I'm lucky to remember yesterday let alone 30+ years ago. The model is 6100RB and the expander was 6100EB. Here is link to an evil bay auction that has some decent pictures.

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A friend of mine back in high school who had wealthy parents was really into audio and had a pair of Klipschorns driven by Macintosh amplifiers (don't remember the model). He had them in a 30X20 foot room with 12 foot ceilings. I never heard anything fill a room like those did.

Keith

cozmik_cowboy · « **Reply #47 on:** July 30, 2012, 07:42:35 AM »

'79-'80 I briefly worked for a lounge band whose keyboard player had a 6100RB in his rig. One time our Studiomaster FOH board went down & I had to use his for a few nights. The channel volumes & EQs were interactive like a guitar - turn someone up, redo EQ the channel. Not a fond memory.

Peter

mindido · « **Reply #48 on:** July 30, 2012, 12:54:59 PM »

keith,

I'm lucky to remember yesterday let alone 30+ years ago.

Boy does that sound familiar. Anyway, checked the link and that does look like the little mixers I remember. Can't say though if its the same. Probably, but... Found the price they wanted for that thing a bit interesting. $337? I think thats about what they were new. Thanks!

cozmik_cowboy,

Studiomaster FOH board

Man, your memory is a heck of a lot better than mine. Don't remember anything about modifying the EQ with most every volume change bur, that was so long ago.

But come to think of it I may still have that old Tapco EQ. I'll have to check.

tubeperson · « **Reply #49 on:** August 01, 2012, 06:55:26 AM »

With respect to the Magnaplanars, you would need a pair of speakers the size of a football field to yield excellent bass. Being made with mylar sheets, plus electrostatic technology, bass reproduction was not their shining feature. This is why they worked well for classical music (bass heavy pieces notwithstanding) or for those who were not intersted in the sonic regions we like to play in. Martin Logan, SoundLabs and others more recently made hybrids, using electrostatics for mid and treble regions which yielded excellent transparency, but very narrow soundstaging, with subwoofers to bring out the bass (problem here is that the subwoofers were not as fast as the panels, thus one may not hear a totally interated sound bass to treble). Klipsch speakers were, and still are much better at bass reproduction, and extremely efficient, which means you do not need massive power amplifiers to obtain a loud clean wall of sound. Back in the day, Altec Lansing, and JBL made efficient loudspeakers with terrific bass. Both Altec and JBL, as well as Electro Voice, made outstanding woofers (some still make them currently) which helps us bass people!

Ah, the curse of being a home audiophile, and an addict of Alembics! So the kids have to starve, so what, big deal (LOL for those too literal to understand sarcasm).

piotr_c · « **Reply #50 on:** August 01, 2012, 05:25:02 PM »

Hi tubeperson, I see we share the love of single malts... If you stop by Montevideo, you have to come around for tasting...! What about B&W speakers, i switched from Spendor to these three years ago 'cause I couldn't hear the bass very well. Well coupled to a Naim system, the B&Ws were like switching from a non-series alembic to a series 2, as jazzyvee would put it...
And in regards to Whisky, a Macallan 18 gran reserva... Only bought two bottles at the time... Long gone.... And today 1 bloody bottle is the price of a 1980s spoiler... Ridiculous...!

mindido · « **Reply #51 on:** August 01, 2012, 10:15:00 PM »

tubeperson,

A while before my ears finally gave out some 30+ years ago we started getting rid of our 15 in. and 18 in. JBLs and started using Cerwin Vega. Do you remember those? I seem to remember our bass player really loved them as they started going in all of our bass cabinets. Does anybody still use them?

elwoodblue · « **Reply #52 on:** August 01, 2012, 11:04:52 PM »

We have a little warehouse full of old school goodies... JBL,Altec Cerwin Vega,McCaulley,RCF...

I'm 46 and just getting my feet wet with what alot you of you guys grew up with. It's pretty cool!!

Even cooler is that I'm learning how to service,recone,calibrate,etc. No gym necessary those days I get to be the one lugging those old
cabs to gigs or just around the warehouse.

My bottom cab at my bass gigs is a 2225H in an old 15 box that was part of the Paramounts 70's system and then used for one of Bob Marley's/Merillee Rush's west coast tour legs.

Someday I'll have try some CV's.

tubeperson · « **Reply #53 on:** August 02, 2012, 06:15:55 AM »

Minidido, when I was in High School, I owned a Plush 18 inch (woofer) bass cabinet, with Cerwin Vega speaker and blue padded covering (think the old Kustom brand). That was the original El Wappo bass cab. In order to really hear all of its tone, you needed to be in a large arena. How's that for old skool. Cerwin Vega is in the same league as Altec et. al. They made a very underrated home speaker back in the late 70's - early 80's as well. I worked summers at Sam Goody's and sold home audio and electronics back then. No such thing as a cell phone or ipods, the portable cassette (Walkman) was popular, and CD's and their players were just staring to become available. Now, CD's are dying and vinyl keeps rocking. Go analogue!!

tubeperson · « **Reply #54 on:** August 02, 2012, 06:25:49 AM »

piotr, I love B & W products, ever since I hear the original Mode 801 speakers. How about JM Labs Utopia's. I purchased a pair of original issue Marantz Model 9 tube amps, and heard them driving the Utopia's. The person I bought the amps from had the Utes in a small apartment in Brooklyn. Probably had very angry neighbors since he liked liked his music loud. Oh, the glory days before kid(s) and bills. And if you are ever in Connecticut, I will gladly dram with you Duncan Taylor's, Glenmorangie as the opener, and the other family members on hand, with chilled shot glasses of course.

piotr_c · « **Reply #55 on:** August 02, 2012, 09:26:32 AM »

Well yes, JM Labs, I have heard lots of excellent comments on these, but alas have never had the pleasure to hear them live, and with Marantz amps, I guess you are as pure of an audiophile as they come...! Love the 801 from B&W, but due to simple space problems (not even financial, 'cause no wife, no kids yet, but lot's of bills!) I had to go for the 802s. Your invitation sounds perfect, I will not forget it... Have a shot for me...

peoplechipper · « **Reply #56 on:** August 03, 2012, 12:41:00 AM »

I really like the B&W speakers too; I have dm100i's in my workshop with an old Sansui alpha series amp(WAY too much power for the room, it's never seen past 4 notches on the volume...)they sound great and I'd even try them upstairs but know that the Hafler would kill them in short order...I've heard old Klipsch horns before and they are amazing...if I had more space I would get a smaller amp and use my Hafler as my bass rig and embrace the horns...audiophile stuff is cool; you can geek right out, but with tangible benefits, kinda like single malt scotch, but not everyone hears or tastes it...PS I am Scottish by birth, so I have malted blood...an ultimate favorite may be the Highland Park 16, although Lagavullin 16 mighty nice too...depends how much peaty I'm into...Tony

mindido · « **Reply #57 on:** August 03, 2012, 08:59:48 AM »

elwoodblue,

We have a little warehouse full of old school goodies... JBL,Altec Cerwin Vega,McCaulley,RCF...

Just a few questions. Does no one use that stuff anymore? And if so, has tech moved on so much that this stuff is all obsolete?

I remember thinking back at that time that most of this stuff sounded pretty darn good.

I just haven't kept up with the tech and rarely listen to music anymore. The last concert I went to was the Eagles maybe 7 years ago. I think they were still using some of the same stuff.

Sorry, just wondering.

mindido · « **Reply #58 on:** August 03, 2012, 09:13:05 AM »

tubeperson,

I remember those old Kustom cabs. Jeez they were ugly. And please don't take offense, but not well respected (at least by the people I worked with).

Come to think of it I may have used some of their speaker cabs in a high school band back in the 60's. Oh man, that was way too long ago.

And I still have one of those old Sony Walkmans from the late 70's or early 80's. It may still work. Loved that little bugger. Stuck the original speakers inside my motorcycle helmet and the Walkman inside my jacket pocket and took a motorcycle trip to TX, NM, CO, UT, ID and lots of other places. Mostly listening to Little Feat. Oh man, those were the days.

tubeperson · « **Reply #59 on:** August 03, 2012, 09:19:39 AM »

No offense taken, They were ugly and too large. Paid very little for it and gave it away. I was in high school when none of us really knew any better. Now I have Phil Jones with 5 Piranha's and 2 of the 4B extension cabinets. I also have an old 15 JBL DK-140 mounted in a custom made bass reflex cabinet. Just use it to move peoples bowels with.