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edwardofhuncote

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« Reply #45 on: December 07, 2014, 07:01:59 PM »
Congrats hammer. Now you gotta help me get Alembic to develop us a line of Alembicoustics
.. piezos & filters. =)

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« Reply #46 on: December 07, 2014, 08:52:29 PM »
I'd love to.  A few years ago, I visited just prior to my son's graduation from college to show him a Further I was having made for him as a graduation present.  At that time, there was an acoustic body in the shop that, according to Mica, some of the staff were playing around with. I never heard what happened and that was back in 2012.

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« Reply #47 on: December 08, 2014, 08:39:57 AM »
Congrats!
 
Not to detract from our hosts, but you won't be sorry with the RA.
 
Just make sure to use the recommended LaBella tape wound strings.
 
BTW: I've been running mine through an AER Amp One and, after some EQ refinement, I think I've settled on a tone that sits in the mix nicely with acoustic instruments.

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« Reply #48 on: December 08, 2014, 10:40:16 AM »
I would be VERY interested in what, if anything, came forth from that playing around. In fact, I volunteer myself to test-pilot a whole new line. =)

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« Reply #49 on: December 08, 2014, 10:47:09 AM »
Here's an Alembic with piezos built in. Apparently, they're for synth control, but maybe they could also be used as an audio source?

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« Reply #50 on: December 08, 2014, 10:48:07 AM »
Here's an Alembic with piezos built in. Apparently, they're for synth control, but maybe they could also be used as an audio source?
 
http://club.alembic.com/Images/631/67349.html

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« Reply #51 on: December 09, 2014, 05:34:54 AM »
A-ha. =)
 
I don't have much interest in synth output, but would love to combine piezos with MXY's and filters for each. That's about as slick of an installation as I've ever seen, but right on par with what you'd expect from our hosts here.

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« Reply #52 on: December 09, 2014, 06:00:34 AM »
I have RMC saddles (like in the above thread) on my Alembicized Fernandes Masterhand.  When played exclusively, without any signal from the Alembic pickups in the mix, it gives a reasonable acoustic sound.
 
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« Reply #53 on: December 11, 2014, 10:07:52 PM »
So my fretless Rob Allen arrived today. A nice bass that does provide a different sound than my Alembics that should blend nicely with the band.  I must admit, however, that my first thoughts on initially playing it were, this is a toy compared to my Alembics.

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« Reply #54 on: December 11, 2014, 11:32:40 PM »
I can relate Brian, my Schector 5 string feels like a toy compared to my Alembic. It feels like it is made out of plastic compared to the solid feel of my SCSD. That is why I decided to take my wife's advice & have a 5 string Europa built!
Rusty
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2014 "Blue Orca" Series II Europa
http://www.alembic.com/info/fc_blueorca.html

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« Reply #55 on: December 11, 2014, 11:51:36 PM »
I can relate Brian, my Schector 5 string feels like a toy compared to my Alembic. It feels like it is made out of plastic compared to the solid feel of my SCSD. That is why I decided to take my wife's advice & have a 5 string Europa built!
Rusty
2011 SCSD
2014 "Blue Orca" Series II Europa
http://www.alembic.com/info/fc_blueorca.html

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« Reply #56 on: December 12, 2014, 12:58:34 AM »
Nothing better than New Bass day Brian. I know exactly how you feel as I received my new(ish) NS CR5M upright yesterday and couldn't keep my hands off it. My first thoughts were 'Jeez - this thing is huge compared to my Alembics :-)
 
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« Reply #57 on: December 12, 2014, 08:15:33 AM »
Hammer -
 
Congrats! Let us know how it works out for you.
 
Re: Alembic vs. Rob Allen = apples & oranges.
 
I would be hard-pressed to obtain the Rob Allen tone from any of my current Alembics - and vice-versa.
 
My motto: use the correct tool for the task at hand!
 
That having been said, I would 100% guarantee that my RA would be collecting dust (or sold) should our hosts venture forth and develop an equivalent product (hint...).
 
I shudder to think of how awesome that would sound (and look).
 
Hmmm...maybe I need to transfer my thoughts to the Dreaming..for now section.

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« Reply #58 on: December 14, 2014, 02:48:15 PM »
There's really no substitute for the thud of a real acoustic upright.  I've never owned one, but have recorded them a number of times.  
 
I recently got an NS Design CR4M electric upright.  It sounds more like an acoustic upright than any 34 scale bass, but it's quite different sounding than a real acoustic.  I'm not a good enough player to tell, but my friends who are accomplished on upright tell me that it feels about right, minus all the physical landmarks that they get from the body and neck joint.  Of course, it's much easier to move around.  One friend plays in a bluegrass band and said it would probably pass, but the NS bass has the most radical styling of the EUBs, which might be a problem.
 
I have a Turner Ren 5 fretless.  The Acousticore strings give it a very distinct sound, but it's not like an upright at all.  As someone mentioned above, it is clearly the king of fretless mwah - completely controllable by your touch.
 
I've also got a Veillette IV fretless 5-string bass.  This bass is called the Paris now (and unfortunately got a lot more expensive).  This is a really beautifully hand-crafted instrument that is great to play.  Mine has  Alvarez electronics, but the new ones have the Turner-Duncan DTAR system.  This is a 35 scale instrument (same as Turner 5-strings) and came with nylon LaBella strings that are much more organic sounding than steels.  It's a very, very nice instrument.  The Rob Allens have been mentioned many times here - this is a very similar vibe.
 
You can get a surprisingly close sound with those LaBella strings on a Godin Acoustibass, which is usually pretty cheap when you can find them.  This instrument is build like a Precision with a routed body and thin top and LR Baggs pickup.  Again, clearly not a solidbody bass, but no upright.
 
It's hard to get a real dreadnought-style bass that sounds good even amplified.  There was a Martin that was expensive and didn't sound good.  The Steve Klein-designed Taylor AB was a marvel of design and construction (this is the one with a wedge-shaped body and the soundhole off to the side), but they didn't really sound good either.  I have an old Kramer Ferrington bass from the 80's that actually plays really well and sounds pretty good.  I liked the sound of this better than the Tacoma Thunderchief, although the Thunderchief was a very good value.
 
David Fung