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hendixclarke

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« on: June 23, 2009, 05:17:52 PM »

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« Reply #1 on: June 23, 2009, 05:47:31 PM »
Didn't everyone do a little acting in the 80's?
 
...pretty bizarre.

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« Reply #2 on: June 23, 2009, 08:30:52 PM »
Stanley went Hollywood... I am sure glad that was short lived.

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« Reply #3 on: June 23, 2009, 11:51:35 PM »
Probably shouldn't laugh but it is so funny and very much of it's time. I wonder how much he would cringe if this clip was played to him today on a television interview.
 
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« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2009, 04:24:35 AM »
I can't view the clip as it's banned at work. I do however remember Stanley appearing in a strange TV musical film as an enigmatic musician. I think Kid Creole starred and the film title may have had paradise in it.
 
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« Reply #5 on: June 24, 2009, 05:40:23 AM »
According to Internet Movie Database, which I've found to be both accurate & comprehensive, Stanley has 1 credit as an actor - 1 episode of a TV show called The Music Makers in 2005.
 
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ps - the clip wouldn't play for me - is there a secret hidden button or something?
 
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« Reply #6 on: June 24, 2009, 05:43:08 AM »
I haven't been able to find it either. I think it was set in someplace like havana. The search goes on.
 
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« Reply #7 on: June 24, 2009, 06:27:37 AM »
Well, that took some finding. Barry Manilow's big fun on swing street. Not a movie at all but set in a seedy jazz club if I recall correctly (it was 1988).
 
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« Reply #8 on: June 24, 2009, 09:11:54 AM »
That was truly a stray moment for such a wonderful talent. Hey, with Miami Vice hitting the airways, and Music Videos taking flight to this new sensation of MTV music commercials forced everybody to be seen, or never get heard.
 
I am so glad that Sh_t is over!
 
Let the rappers, and kids have it.

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« Reply #9 on: June 24, 2009, 10:21:11 AM »
Just for the record, the Internet movie database is accurate and comprehensive. It's also full of inaccuracies and omissions.

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« Reply #10 on: June 25, 2009, 09:38:37 AM »
This shows that Stanley have great sense of humour. One guy doesn't need to be superior just because he is one of the greatest bassist of all times. I'd rather to be Dizzy more than Davies (if you know what I mean). To be open to play dumb - or what ever we could criticize - is a quality, not a mistake.
 
Although everybody got at least one ashaming photo from the 80's... The Devil's haircut (mullet), the suit's large shoulders and the high-contrasted fluorescent colors made all of us subject to jokes, don't you agree?
 
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« Reply #11 on: June 25, 2009, 11:58:51 AM »
Mario, I believe he does shows a lighter side... but with all the production costs that went into making this video, I don't think it was a wise decision to make. Michael Jackson's Thriller was killing anything that moved... and lucky Louis Johnson was there for the ride slamming bass.
 
It's hard for a Jazz artisan to go on hiatus to split from a very mature audience to jump on flimsy computer sound-tack that could be made digitally. I can remember the jokes in my music classes in college when somebody said something about Stanley's new 80's direction. We all love Stanley, but we felt he was selling out for the money/fame.  
 
Then on the other hand, its good to add a greater fan base. Going into POP helps. Phil Collins did the same thing, but to do this, he had a voice his way (sing) to the top.
 
I don't think a bass can do this alone, and we all know that Stanley tried singing. I like his singing voice myself. But, Michael Jackson dominated all voices at that time...
 
The full meaning of Stanley decisions to jump on the pop band wagon will always be a mystery to me, I think Stanley is too stiff of a bass player to get the fame he may had been looking for... I think of Jamain Jackson, who dances while playing his basses and Bootsy who needs no introduction as to what he's about. Stanley Clarke name can't match those guys when it comes to Funk or Pop.
 
Working with singers like Howard Hewett, and Jeffrey Osborn was cheesy. However on the other hand, Stanley's music works with Dee Bridgwater (Who is my wife's cousin) was fantastic because Dee and Stanley, was in their natural elements... Fine Jazz.  
 
The 80's for the most part was a horrible decade for Jazz, but great for POP.
 
I am glad my hero is back home with Jazz.

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« Reply #12 on: June 25, 2009, 03:10:35 PM »
hendix  I agree..I went right off Stan in the 80's, he was suddenly doing all this awful cherry flavoured disco pop crap, I mean someone who composes 'Hot Fun' which is a great funk track or 'We Supply'and then starts writing that dross..I mean did he really need the money?
He looked pretty well off to me looking at the picture of all his basses on the steps of his house in the vinyl version of 'I Wanna Play For You'
Dee Bridgewater..a fantastic vocalist with a great mix of soul & jazz, I bet she and Stan could have composed a funk single to die for.
Yes I will never understand why he took that route, maybe he was testing the water and educating himself.
You never know he might join the forum and explain himself..now that would be great!

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« Reply #13 on: June 25, 2009, 03:27:46 PM »
Its funny how I mentioned Michael Jackson today in this thread, and Thriller.... Michael has died today! I am not kidding!!!! Michael Jackson King of Pop, has died of a heart attack.

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« Reply #14 on: June 26, 2009, 02:06:07 AM »
I'm going to have to disagree with Hal and Terry., To me, stanley's 'Find Out' album was a refreshing change of direction and it remains one of my most played SC albums. It has one of the best versions of Born in the USA I've heard and the rest of the songs stand up well to repeat listening. One of the problems I have with much of Stanleys work is that he constantly drops in the same old motifs, all of which are missing from Find Out which to me can't be bad.  
 
Hal said The full meaning of Stanley decisions to jump on the pop band wagon will always be a mystery to me
I don't think it's a mystery at all. All great artistes are constantly changing direction, pushing the boundaries of their craft and, believe it or not, having FUN, which is what I believe Stanley was doing. By way of comparison, several years ago I was getting so bored playing the same tired old covers gigs that I ended up in a country and western band as a side project. Now that was alot of fun and gave me back some energy to do the paying work.
 
I wonder what you both think of the work he did with George Duke?
 
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