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kungfusheriff

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« Reply #15 on: August 13, 2005, 06:33:17 PM »
Yep...that bass sat on craigslist and elsewhere gradually getting cheaper until G Guitars gave him $1500 and flipped it on eBay at $1000 profit to someone who in turn flipped it to someone else. Kind of a shame with any bass, but that one had some history to it in the positive sense.
You're right to not bid on this or any other Guitar Center/instrumentexchange.com auction...despite the fact the seller is a professional and my guy, whom longhorn quoted, is an amateur, I'll trust the latter 10 times out of 10. As I've said before--avoid, avoid, avoid.

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« Reply #16 on: August 13, 2005, 08:33:50 PM »
and i did, i did, i did, as you can see from the end of the auction. professional buyer bought it (check his profile). hopefully, he'll refurbish it and clean it up.  btw, what was the history of that bass and why won't anyone say what it was? i'd forgotten about that being in the threads when it was being sold. what's the deal?

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« Reply #17 on: August 14, 2005, 02:06:22 PM »
I played and purchased the other bass with the pearl dots after having a number of conversations with Mica and others at Alembic regarding its condition.  I also brought it with the prior owner to a well known Manhattan luthier who gave it a good review.  I got a great deal on it and it actually plays very well.  I agree that the pearl dots are not the ideal solution and have started looking at a number of other possibilities.  Any ideas?  The key to any bass is the feel and the sound - it is all Alembic in both cases.  Remember, we can't fix the past mistakes of prior owners, but if they don't materially affect the appearance, the sound, or the feel, it may still be a great instrument.
 
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« Reply #18 on: August 14, 2005, 02:57:54 PM »
clearly! i agree. all of my alembics have been pre-owned and i've also consulted at length w/mica about the relative good and bad points of a particular ebay-offered alembic. remember the mark king or stanley clarke or series that had the cracked tailpiece horn? one of the horns was broken off.  mica gave me great advice on the various ways it could be fixed correctly. sadly, the only method that would result in the bass looking right was to remove both wings and replace them w/new ones. jesus christ, you wouldn't believe what that cost. the other alternatives were going to result in an odd appearance that no one else would probably see from a stage, but i'd know! so, i passed. it sold w/in a range i would have paid at the time, but i would have obsessed about that broken horn. when i purchased my persuader vector, both mica and dave advised me on how to bring a dried out fingerboard back to life and i took their advice and it worked. however, i'm still interested in the history aspect of the, well i guess your, exploiter.  if i had won that exploiter, i was going to have someone here remove the pearl dots and try to insert plugs which would more closely match the wood.  if you watch this old house on pbs, people skilled in wood can do wonders even w/old wood hundreds of years old. i was going to take it to an antiques restorer here who is really, really good and have him do it. our first step was going to be to contact alembic and see what i could do about getting a wood sample or piece that would match as closely as possible. the restorer was going to do the rest.  that is a beautiful exploiter you got. wish you hadn't paid so much. like i say, seller offered it to me for $1500 before he moved into nyc and couldn't get his email back up for 2 weeks.

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« Reply #19 on: August 14, 2005, 02:58:58 PM »
btw, kungfusheriff, please tell us the history behind the bass.

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« Reply #20 on: August 14, 2005, 05:09:16 PM »
BTW, fortunately I didnt pay anything near $1500.
 
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« Reply #21 on: August 14, 2005, 05:17:05 PM »
someone up above said it sold at least twice after being purchased by a guitar dealer. i found what i thought was the bass, in ebay's closed listings category, and it sold for $2900.

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« Reply #22 on: August 15, 2005, 07:48:37 AM »
i found the exploiter that went for $2900 and it was absolutely NOT the one w/the 3 pearl inlay dots repairing the holes drilled for the replacement badass bridge.  the one that went for $2900 was another absolutely beautiful exploiter, and pretty flawless from what little the pics showed.

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« Reply #24 on: August 17, 2005, 08:14:00 PM »
yep, the same bass longhorncat described above as being basically worn out. wonder what happened w/the ebay buyer? i emailed the seller, same seller as before, and asked what happened. haven't received a response. have to give it to seller this time around. they changed their ad copy to be more honest by mentioning the cracked pickup retainer longhorncat's friend had described. obviously, longhorncat, your compadre did play it and quite accurately described damage not mentioned by seller before. hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. do you buy from someone who has to be outed into being honest and forthright about damage?

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« Reply #25 on: August 18, 2005, 11:02:20 AM »
just for the record, i am said reviewer.
at one time, this was a very nice bass.  with some TLC and a good deal of $$$ it could be a very nice bass again.  imho it's overpriced by a good deal based upon the model and especially its condition.  as with other alembics that i've seen GC list, this one will probably be relisted over and over agian at the same price.  you'd think they'd try a no reserve or make best offer auction, but i'm sure they're bound by some corporate policy.

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« Reply #26 on: August 18, 2005, 12:38:22 PM »
Since there seems to be a lot of interest in this bass & I've had a few requests for the build record, I'll post it here.  
1984 4 string medium scale Spoiler Exploiter
Bubinga top (not koa, as listed)
mahogany body
maple neck
ebony fretboard
oval inlays
Schaller tuners
Brass hardware
 
Completed 5/21/84
 
That's it.
 
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« Reply #27 on: August 18, 2005, 12:41:48 PM »
Timmy!
 
Remember, gang, friends don't let friends buy Alembics from Guitar Center...

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« Reply #28 on: August 19, 2005, 08:49:34 AM »
yep it's me.  i finally broke down and joined the board.  btw i was going for series III as my screen name but it got converted to lower case when i registered  :-(
 
also btw:
  Remember, gang, friends don't let friends buy Alembics from Guitar Center...
 
 
isn't always entirely true.  my first two alembics came from guitar center, but they were new.   they had hung there for the better part of 3 years before I came along. i think they have an across-the-board issue with selling alembic. GC caters to the fender, warwick and ibanez crowd and they really don't know how to deal with a high-end instrument or manufacturer like alembic.  when i bought the europa, the sales guy actually told me that alembic was going out of business and that's why they were blowing out their basses!  
it's too bad this bass is such a beater and that they're pricing it so high.  the sales guy that i spoke to there obviously had not a clue about the instrument.  whoever wins this auction is sure to be sorely disappointed when they get it based upon what i saw vs. the description in the ad (gotta wonder if that hasn't already happened).  there have been a couple of other used alembics that they have listed over and over at unrealistically high prices and my guess is that this bass will probably fall into that category, unfortunately.  btw I just checked the listing again - $1899 ($2199 BIN) ? the first auction was for $1525!  WOW! Somebody needs to step away from the crack pipe?
of course, all of the above hot air imho, ymmv, etc and so forth?

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« Reply #29 on: August 19, 2005, 12:46:23 PM »
it gets weirder and weirder.  the bass just sold and the winning bidder was ebay user skycoasterbass.  i emailed the seller 2 days ago and mentioned the bass had already sold and why was it for sale again.  he responded this morning or late last night that the buyer couldn't pay.  so, i backtracked just now thru the CLOSED alembic ebay listings and guess who the winning buyer was on august 13th? just guess. anyone got a guess? that's right, skycoasterbass.  hmmmmmmmmmm.