Author Topic: Europa 5 & Rogue 6 (Read 755 times)

hgregs · « **Reply #30 on:** January 05, 2015, 01:55:56 PM »

this seems like a great deal on a sweet bass. call me biased, I have one just like it, I think about a year older, and paid $3k used a few years ago. I did a lot of research on the price first and felt comfortable paying what I did, and I've been very happy ever since. mine does have LEDs, and narrow spacing (preferred for me). hope this is helpful. personally, I would rank a neck-through bass like the Europa (With 3 purple heart laminates) higher than a having a specific low-pass filter for tone. but I think the europa has a LPF. the last dial on mine is a LPF with a Q switch. anyway - good luck.

edwardofhuncote · « **Reply #31 on:** January 05, 2015, 02:30:22 PM »

Agree. I'll be a little surprised if it doesn't sell at $2799. Another couple hundred bucks less, and I'd be tempted to drive up there myself...

FWIW - frankfive tried it out in-hand, and heard a hum/interference, could be a simple shielding issue. Still, for $2800 you don't really wanna do much work.

DanFrank · « **Reply #32 on:** January 05, 2015, 05:51:33 PM »

I'm surprised that I don't see anyone watching it on eBay. I am watching, but just for the spectator enjoyment at this point. I didn't feel comfortable about the intermittent electrical noise I was hearing that seemed to subside after adjusting the LPF. I use the same headphone amp all the time and it doesn't make that noise with any other bass.??50 minutes?.we will see?...

hammer · « **Reply #33 on:** January 05, 2015, 07:02:17 PM »

No bids again. Maybe they'll get tired of it hanging around and bring the price down a bit more so that it will be worthwhile to take a chance that the issues will involve a relatively easy fix. In really good condition I'd say it's easily worth $3,000. If they bring it down to $2,300 or so I might be interested.

hgregs · « **Reply #34 on:** January 06, 2015, 08:14:11 AM »

hey frank... did you test another bass right there at the shop when you heard the interference? just wondering if it could have been non-bass specific, and more related to something in the environment at the time. cellphone? grounding? fluorescent lighting?

DanFrank · « **Reply #35 on:** January 06, 2015, 04:45:22 PM »

I did not test anything else Greg. Being a pawn shop, they were just very happy I was using a AmPlug and playing quietly. The one point in my memory that still makes me wonder if it was the bass or some interaction between the bass and my Vox AmPlug was that the interference subsided after I would turn the LPF knob. That could still be external EMI that was being attenuated by the LPF to the headphones, but I didn't turn the knob the same way each time as it was a random situation. Mica said last night that all the knobs and switches should be cycled at least 50 times because there could be some issue with it sitting in the case for a very long time. I told her that he did say the bass was with them for over a year because they were waiting for the guy to buy them back, but he never returned. So there may be some oxide build-up on contacts or wipers of the pots and maybe that is causing some issue, but I'm not sure how probable it would be to hear an oscillating popping sound riding on a tone from an oxide build-up. I don't want to falsely represent the issue, so it would make sense for someone else who is knowledgeable about Alembics to check it out. I'm on the fence about it because I don't know if I can get back to Maryland anyway in the near term and don't want to buy without checking it out again.

lyla53 · « **Reply #36 on:** January 11, 2015, 05:23:19 PM »

I called these guys after the second auction ended with zero bids and did not come away with a good feeling - something strange for sure.

DanFrank · « **Reply #37 on:** January 12, 2015, 02:16:50 AM »

As a pawn shop first, they're not so apt to give customer service and have a take it, make an offer, or leave attitude. I had to be very patient with the guy behind the counter who wouldn't check the battery when I discovered it wasn't working and kept talking about me coming back later in the day and he would see if they had time to check it. I could have changed the battery in the time it took him to tell me that story. I called again after the 3rd bid-less auction and asked for the eBay person, who seems to now be in charge of that piece, and the guy at the counter wouldn't pass me along to him and instead told me to make him an offer over the eBay post, which just expired, So I told him that and asked for the guy's email, and he told me to send him an email over the eBay post?. either they are very obtuse or there is something else wrong that I just don't understand?. I decided last week to let it go and wait for another opportunity.