Author Topic: Jimmy "Flim" Johnson  (Read 151975 times)

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Re: Jimmy
« Reply #1920 on: December 21, 2025, 03:36:50 AM »

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Re: Jimmy
« Reply #1921 on: December 21, 2025, 04:21:57 AM »
I sent bass charts.  ;-)

That opens things up for more inquisitiveness….

Jimmy, do you chart/ write out all of your parts? 
Imagine your library of work is massive and even though You created the bass line(s), keeping track of all of that must be tricky.

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« Reply #1922 on: December 21, 2025, 05:21:37 AM »
That one goes way back, maybe even before Lee (?) though I'm sure he left his mark on Fire & Rain too. I seem to remember Jimmy keeps a pretty substantial library of notes, and once treated me to his cheat-sheet on *"Mexico".

*I was wrong, it was "Walkin' Down A Country Road"... but I was working out both of them about this time. 🙄

The Opry's website shows Larry Paxton as house band bass guitarist, and he did a fine job. (you had to know I'd look...) I'm more glad now I didn't post the video on Jimmy J's thread here! 🤣 I know he doesn't care for that anyway.
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Re: Jimmy
« Reply #1923 on: December 21, 2025, 08:28:57 AM »
Yes, we must give a nod to Sklar for making up the bass parts on most of JT's recordings, including the hits.  So great!  I do my best to honor his inventive playing but the parts have inevitably evolved to include a few my own twists. 

I do use paper to help me learn tunes and I have an extensive collection of small spiral sketchbooks full of scribbles for ever band I've ever played with.  But my charts are typically only sketches with letters indicating pitches (not even major or minor chord indications) and any necessary rhythmic notations.

But then a few years ago we did a Jackson Browne & JT double-bill tour with the great Bob Glaub laying down the low notes for JB.  Covid was still rampant at that time and kept licking at our heals as we tried to move about 100 people from town to town.  So in case either Bob or I got sick ... I took it upon myself to make scribbles of the songs they were playing in Jackson's set and I wrote out proper, more specific bass charts of what I was playing in JT's set.

So by happenstance, I have a set of fairly accurate bass parts of my versions of JT's most popular tunes.  That was what I was able to forward to the great Opry band.

James often refers to me as the "band leader" but that's not really accurate.  HE is truly the Musical Director of the operation and I'm simply the Band Librarian.  It's true!  I have 35 years worth of setlists, a huge collection of live performance mp3s, and am the keeper of any music that has been written out over those years by any of the band members.  I have keyboard, drums, horn parts, cello parts, etc., in case we ever need anything. 

Do you guys find that the bass player is usually the guy in the band who organizes things?  :D  Maybe that's just our nature.

Happy Holidays to everybody.
Jimmy J

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« Reply #1924 on: December 21, 2025, 08:59:15 AM »
Well, speaking just for myself here... it's not laziness that keeps me from being a bandleader, it's a lack of leadership skills. I can't get cats to march in a parade, and that's a  lot of what it looks like to me from the back. I do however have this ability to remember arrangements, keys, tempos, and fine details that often get misremembered or forgotten by others. Case in point, just last weekend we played a Christmas concert that would have been 30 years if not for the Covid years we simply couldn't fathom an outdoor event in December Virginia. The core of the band, 5 of us... 30 years on now put it together one more time, and they do indeed look to me for that reference point. Simply because they know I'll remember. Or if not off-the-cuff, I'll have scribbled it in notes somewhere. I've been hit with weird transposition 10 minutes before downbeat. One year it was Gmin to F#min for a singer with a confidence issue. That was tricky. She later dropped it to Fmin, and I still have both alternates charted. This year, it was "I'll Be Home For Christmas" moved from C to A. Alright, that ain't the end of the world, but it ain't easy-peasy either. I knew the melody line in my head. The keys player pushed a couple buttons and he was done. I took a scratch pad and pen, my guitar, and went to the hallway to work it out. Hey, at least it wasn't some wacky flat. 🙄


But yeah, that's our job... remember stuff, or at least be able to remember where to find it.

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Re: Jimmy
« Reply #1925 on: December 21, 2025, 09:43:29 AM »
The 12-string guitars though, are not strung in octaves, but in unison courses. 

Sounds like an archilaúd (which I am only familiar with from seeing Javier Mas play one on Leonard Cohen vids).

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Re: Jimmy
« Reply #1926 on: December 21, 2025, 09:45:22 AM »
If I can navigate a brief detour on this thread, how do you like the Bridge Doctor, Greg?  I installed one a few years ago to make a cheapo playable.  It seemed to work as advertised.  There is a well-known luthier who regularly posts on another forum which I visit, who claims it's a piece of junk that destroys a guitar's tone.  We now return you to your regularly scheduled thread.

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For a long time, it was standard factory equipment on all Breedlove guitars, but they came to the conclusion that it was not good for tone, and so now only put them in 12s.

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Re: Jimmy
« Reply #1927 on: December 21, 2025, 09:57:57 AM »
In the bands I worked for professionally, it tended to be the guitarist who ran things - and the bass player who held it together.
I have no problem connecting this to the fact that in my youth I was involved in a number of bands that started with 3 guitarists; one knew some chords and so was the rhythm player, one knew some riffs and so played lead, and one knew music, and thus switched to bass.


Peter (who will add that even when someone else ran things, the lead player thought he did.........  How many lead guitarists does it take to change a light bulb?  One; he holds the bulb & the world revolves around him.  nyuk nyuk)
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Re: Jimmy
« Reply #1928 on: December 22, 2025, 11:36:24 AM »
Strictly cover band stuff:
In a band called Crows Feet I was the keeper of the set lists.  Each member of the band wanted something different (Drummer just wanted song titles in 28 pt type, lead guitar wanted title key and who was on lead vocal, I wanted everything from a note (shuffle in F, quick change, V-IV-I-V turnaround), string of chords, lead sheet, or a completely written out part).

I had a master spreadsheet: I would save a copy for the current gig, list the chart #s for each set, and it would populate Notes tabs for each band member.  This spreadsheet covered multiple bands.

I have also observed that bass players of a certain generation are often most knowledgeable about audio gear in general, and PA gear in particular, and that a lot of us were the kids that ran the movie projector in high school and junior high. 
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Re: Jimmy
« Reply #1929 on: December 22, 2025, 12:48:19 PM »
Oh, the memories.  Audio-Visual crew!   16 mm projector, overhead projector, slide projector, and the ubiquitous filmstrip projector showing current events.  Used to put tiny pieces of torn paper underneath where they would get sucked into the cooling fan and shoot out the top.

Bill, tgo

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Re: Jimmy
« Reply #1930 on: December 23, 2025, 08:46:26 AM »
I went into the pro AV business (from the music store side of things) about 28 years ago...and was also the projector guy in grade school/high school. Cliche, or just the right path? ;)


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Re: Jimmy
« Reply #1931 on: December 23, 2025, 11:32:30 AM »
Ah, yes, AV Club!
We did all that Bill describes - but spent most our time back in our hidey-hole copying LPs onto 8-track so we play them in the car.

Peter
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Re: Jimmy
« Reply #1932 on: December 23, 2025, 06:44:41 PM »
Organize a band.  I bet I could herd house cats too.