Author Topic: Bridge Polish Bib (Read 939 times)

dfung60 · « **Reply #30 on:** March 26, 2011, 09:26:21 AM »

Kind of interesting about Flitz. When I saw sonicus' post saying Flitz was non-abrasive, I thought must have been a mis-read. Polishes have to be abrasive to work (they scratch off the oxidized surface of the metal).

Googled it a bit, and it's interesting that the company that makes Flitz claims that it's non-abrasive, but if you look at the safety sheet for Flitz paste (required for chemicals), the primary agent is aluminum oxide which is an abrasive. Strange that they would market it as non-abrasive, because it's just not true.

The differences in polishes is how fine the abrasive particles are. Rougher particles can cut through oxidation quicker but leave visible scratches. Fine cuts wouldn't be able to polish out deep scratches but leave a mirror-like finish. So, I'm sure Flitz is suffering from some hyperbole here - they have a fine cut of alumina so you don't see scratches.

You could have a purely chemical polish, but it's unlikely you'd have a mirror-like finish on metal after using it.

David Fung

sonicus · « **Reply #31 on:** March 26, 2011, 10:49:35 AM »

HI David , yes as per the MSDS you are correct , yet in practicle application I personally have found Flitz to be the least damaging of the products that I have used on brass & silver surfaces. Perhaps it has the least abrasive effect as per the manufactures claims.
here is the MSDS that David pointed out for us; Thanks for the research David.
Wolf
http://www.flitz.com/images/document/MSDS_Flitz%20Polish_PASTE.pdf

sonicus · « **Reply #32 on:** March 26, 2011, 12:06:49 PM »

Fliz's claims indeed are interesting ;
http://www.flitz.com/t-faq.aspx

Wolf

lbpesq · « **Reply #33 on:** March 26, 2011, 12:15:16 PM »

And it's a dessert topping too!!!

hehehehe

Bill, tgo

sonicus · « **Reply #34 on:** March 26, 2011, 12:34:50 PM »

I am now intrigued to get a first hand explanation form Flitz @ their 1-800-558-8611 number regarding the MSDS and their claims on their product description regarding being non abrasive. I will report back , feel free to call as well .

Wolf,
Sonic Regards _______

sonicus · « **Reply #35 on:** March 28, 2011, 10:00:17 AM »

I just spoke with a representative from Flitz regarding the non abrasive product description and the MSDS . I was told that as per the The U.S. Government ; Flitz is considered a non- abrasive polish. As per the Canadian Government even water can be considered abrasive. The Aluminum Oxide is 5000-6000 grit . I was told that if anyone has any questions to please call 1-800-558-8611.

And there we have it ; my report .

Sonic Regards

elwoodblue · « **Reply #36 on:** March 28, 2011, 10:15:14 AM »

Thanks Wolf,
Good info that's not easy to find,

Elwood

lbpesq · « **Reply #37 on:** March 28, 2011, 10:22:18 AM »

So I guess the moral of the story is don't use Flitz in Canada?

Hehehehe

Bill, tgo

elwoodblue · « **Reply #38 on:** March 28, 2011, 01:06:08 PM »

...or just use Canadian water,

sonicus · « **Reply #39 on:** March 28, 2011, 11:40:55 PM »

I can just speculate as to what the various parameters seem to be regarding the reasoning regarding how the standards are set from Government to Government as far as stipulations go regarding a product to be legally considered non-abrasive . But I would tend to believe that In The U.S. it is a matter of practical functionality rather then pure semantic accuracy.
David is correct as far as the chemical composition as per the MSDS. It appears that the legal aspects in definition as far as marketing are not purely based on the chemical composition in the U.S.
It would be interesting how much this would vary on a global level.

I still think that the Flitz paste in the tube is awesome, But should only be used as directed as per the link in my post #1734
It was VERY effective to polish the silver Alembic Logo on my head stock , as well as the bridge and brass posistion markers and did not damage the finish and cleaned up well ( use only very little and very carefully on a cotton swab). I would not use it if the brass is coated however . As far as Polishing a bridge I tend to remove it from the instrument but Rusty's Bib is a a nice variation if you don't want to remove it .
Sonic Regards ,
Wolf

cozmik_cowboy · « **Reply #40 on:** March 29, 2011, 05:14:04 AM »

...In The U.S. it is a matter of practical functionality rather then pure semantic accuracy.

Sort of like US food labeling, where Fresh, never frozen means never frozen below 0? F? I think marketing might play more of a role than functionality.

Peter

rustyg61 · « **Reply #41 on:** March 29, 2011, 09:34:49 AM »

Thanks Wolf!

georgie_boy · « **Reply #42 on:** March 31, 2011, 08:11:14 AM »

Is all this Never Dull stuff just the same as a product we have here in the U K called Duraglit ??
There is also one just for Silver type metals. Works great and lasts for ages!!

George

rustyg61 · « **Reply #43 on:** March 31, 2011, 01:13:14 PM »

George, it looks like a very similar product. I'm not sure if it has the same chemicals in it, but definitely the same wadding type polish that works well on brass.