Author Topic: Help! (Read 474 times)

dean_m · « **Reply #15 on:** September 19, 2003, 10:50:53 AM »

Oh hear we go again,

He had to mention Harleys!!!! LOL
Hey Kevin, I do agree that we are all in the same boat when it comes to finding the best deal possible. There is no disagreement here!!! But, I do remember going to the Mercedes dealer with my friend. They politely laughed at him when he tried to negotiate the finance rate. Most people that are buying a $60-70k car don't worry about the financing. Needless to say we walked out.
Regarding Harley (Yep, here we go Brother Paul) It's a whole different issue. Up until 2 years ago, Harley production was held to a lean to produce a demand. The dealers took advantage of this and started gouging the customers. Hence the $3-4K markup over list. Harley requested that they stop doing it due to customer complaints. When they refused to stop. Harley increased production flooding the market and the dealers with new bikes, killing the used market and the leftover market. Now people are asking, well why should I buy your used bike for $11,000 when I can buy a brand new one for $13,000!!
It's funny your bring that up because I am having a hard time selling one of my Harleys because of that.
My other question is this. Is Superbass.net and Ed Roman a brick and mortar retail site like Larry Morgan, where they have a lease and overhead to pay or are they a Web Retailer? This might explain their ability to discount a little more.
Either way, best of luck to you on your quest. We are all here to help and sometimes debate each others needs!!!!
Now, anybody looking for a killer deal on a 1989 Harley Softail!!!! LOL

David Houck · « **Reply #16 on:** September 19, 2003, 11:05:14 AM »

Dean; if memory serves, I believe it was mentioned here once in the past that one of the requirements to become an Alembic distributor is a brick and mortar storefront. I could be wrong, my memory is not all that reliable.

palembic · « **Reply #17 on:** September 19, 2003, 11:11:15 AM »

Brother Paul the fake one/the artist formerly known as Dino.
Glad you survived Isabel!
Now THE QUESTION??
(Now I'm REALLY embarrased) ...
what's a softail Harley? A Harley with a soft tail? I didn't know they had tails.
Brother Kevin, agian a question of mine I should be ashamed to ask but ...what's a Bimmer???
Sorry guys but my US lingo is not always enough to follow the conversation going on.

Paul the bad one

(Message edited by palembic on September 19, 2003)

dean_m · « **Reply #18 on:** September 19, 2003, 01:06:53 PM »

Dave,
Now that you mention that, I think you may be right!! My apology if I misled anyone. However Superbass.net only advertises a P.O. box on their website which I thought was peculiar
Anyway,
Brother Paul, to answer your question. A Softail is a model of bike that Harley builds. The rear suspension and shocks are hidden underneath the bike giving it the look of a custom built chopper without a rear suspension. Just a wheel mounted to the frame. They call these hardtails. Because the Harleys do have a suspension, they were named Softails by HD.
And if I may answer for Kevin, a Bimmer is slang for a BMW here in the states.
http://www.harley-davidson.com/PR/MOT/2004/04_template.asp?bmLocale=nl_BE&nickname=Dean&market=BE&family=Softail&model=FXST&modelSection=intro
Oh yeah, it's just raining here in Boston Paul. Not bad at all. I hope everyone south of us is okay though!!!

Peace,
Dino

kmh364 · « **Reply #19 on:** September 19, 2003, 01:21:00 PM »

Paul: A softail is a bike family (Harley makes only four different families - Softail, Touring, Dyna and Sportster - the various models are mix and and match parts variants of those basic families). It is a bike with a hidden rear suspension that mimics the look of old hardtail bikes (i.e., no rear suspension - rigid frame attached directly to the rear wheel/axle) - vintage Harley's from 1903 all the way up untill the 1950's. For example, a Fatboy is a Softail family variant. Did I confuse you sufficiently? I ride a Road King (Touring family). A Bimmer is a BMW car (as opposed to a Beemer, which is a BMW motorcycle) - as defined by the BMWCCA/BMWMOA (i.e., BMW car and bike clubs of America, respectively). It's great to see all of you have a good sense of humor. Wow, I started a whole bunch of sh*t by asking where I could get a discounted Alembic, huh? LOL! As an aside, did anyone catch Steely Dan this tour? I saw them at PNC in NJ this Aug. and at the Roseland in NYC last week. Tom Barney was AWESOME (besides being a bassist extraordinaire, he's also this tour's music director) - doesn't play Alembic, though, LOL!.

kmh364 · « **Reply #20 on:** September 19, 2003, 02:41:01 PM »

Wayne: I was so busy shootin' the b.s., I forgot to ask you: How was the East meets West Orion 4?
Since I caused quite a fervor over it, what did it play/sound/look like?

mikedm · « **Reply #21 on:** September 22, 2003, 06:12:08 AM »

Kevin,
I haven't played the EMW patched in, so I can't comment on the sound. But I have held it and played it dry on a number of occasssions while waiting for one thing or another at Larry Morgan. It's extremely light and comfortable, both sitting and standing. The neck is narrow, fast and very straight.

The wood is something else, quilted maple still freaks me out. How something two dimensional can look 3D is baffling. The photos in the feature article fall short. As usual, another example of great Alembic craftsmanship.

The controls are similar to what you'd find on the Eurpoa/Rogue, albeit the respective boost/cut switches have been replaced by knobs. I own an Orion with Europa elecs and can get anything from almost fretless to an in-your-face, big, fat bottom tone. The low pass filter is sweet. I don't know what the controls would do for the JZ p-ups on this model, but I would venture to say it would be like a Jazz on steriods. Maybe Wayne can shed some light on that for you.

Mike

kmh364 · « **Reply #22 on:** September 22, 2003, 09:52:54 AM »

Thanks, Mike. As I'm looking to order one just like it, any info I can get helps greatly. Since it has an Ash body, similar to a Fender (albeit with a Gibson LP-like top maple laminate), I assumed it would be reasonably light. As I suffer from low back pain (many years), light makes right! I bought a chambered (i.e., hollowed-out under the maple top) Les Paul for that very reason.

mikedm · « **Reply #23 on:** September 22, 2003, 10:58:32 AM »

Then you'd like the combination. I traded in an American Custom Jazz Deluxe for my Orion. Small body, ash wood. This Orion is as close to that Jazz-feel as you can get. The elbow rollover and tummy cut are not as pronounced as a Fender would be, but I've seen where Alembic has accommodated others buyers in that respect. If body weight is a concern, they'd chamber that out for you as well, as long as neck balance doesn't become an issue. The upper horn on the Orion is nice and long and gives you some options other body styles wouldn't.

Good luck, I'd love to experience the agony of The Wait, LOL.

Mike

kmh364 · « **Reply #24 on:** September 22, 2003, 12:10:19 PM »

Thanks, Mike. As I'm looking to order one just like it, any info I can get helps greatly. Since it has an Ash body, similar to a Fender (albeit with a Gibson LP-like top maple laminate), I assumed it would be reasonably light. As I suffer from low back pain (many years), light makes right! I bought a chambered (i.e., hollowed-out under the maple top) Les Paul for that very reason.