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bassickness

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Body accent laminates
« on: June 07, 2017, 09:08:55 AM »
Is there a difference in tone between the thicker purple heart body laminates and the thicker maple laminates.

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Re: Body accent laminates
« Reply #1 on: June 07, 2017, 11:26:08 AM »
Since both are hard woods (= brighter tone), the difference (if any) would be minimal at best.


With regard to Alembic instruments, it's been my experience that the woods used for the neck construction (especially ebony) have far more influence on tone than the woods used for the body. I believe there is a past post discussing this where it was mentioned that the body "wings" could be removed from the neck and the result would be minimal affect on the overall tone of the instrument.

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Re: Body accent laminates
« Reply #2 on: June 07, 2017, 02:51:31 PM »
In general I don't think the accent laminates have a large effect on the tone.  The neck wood recipe has the largest effect on tone.  From past experience the front and back laminates and body core do have a noticeable effect on the tone. I also think how noticeable the differences are will be dependent upon the body style and electronics.

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Re: Body accent laminates
« Reply #3 on: June 07, 2017, 04:41:20 PM »
From what I've read on the forum the alembic view is that they want to keep the energy from the vibrating string, in the string so the neck design and stiffness of it plays a bigger part in achieving that goal. The body woods have more of a refining role rather than establishing anything major to the tone. So whilst there may be some differences based on using purple heart vs maple in the accent, I doubt it's huge due to it being a small percentage of the overall body woods and maybe would not heard clearly in the context of a band situation.

I have two series basses that have similar construction materials, ebony and maple necks and mahogany cores but one has purple heart accent and a quilted maple top and back and is a series II bass and the other has a maple accent and is a series I with a burl redwood top and back. The pickups are in virtually the same positions give or take what I assume to be manufacturing tolerances so I would expect them both to sound very similar if I don't use any Q in their sound. And to be honest they do sound quite similar but where I hear differences is that the redwood bass is warmer sounding on the bottom end and I hear very little difference on the higher frequencies.

I'[size=78%]m no authority on the subject but I'd suggest that this is more to do with the thicker top and bottom woods and the accents of maple vs purple heart is used more for cosmetic reasons than tonal. But I wouldn't state that as a fact.[/size]

Also don't forget that pickup position will have a big affect on what a bass sounds like and can override any subtleties that accent wood choice might give.

I'm sure those with better more experienced ears would be able to offer a more reliable views than mine but I hope that gives you something to think about. :-)











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Re: Body accent laminates
« Reply #4 on: June 08, 2017, 04:57:17 AM »
Thanks, Jazzyvee!

Your basses are beautiful! 

I have a MK standard 5 string with a redwood top that has the large maple body laminate.  I would have liked the large purple heart laminate thinking I would get a deeper tone, but after reading these posts it's like splitting hairs and the laminates are really just what they are - wood accents, not necessarily tone accents. 

It can sure make me crazy thinking about all of it:)

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Re: Body accent laminates
« Reply #5 on: June 08, 2017, 07:49:03 AM »
Thanks Bassickess, Do you have any pictures you can share with us of your alembics?
Again from my readings on the forum, the body core wood has more of an impact on the sound with a solid body bass than the top or bottom laminates. I think if you had a maple core in the bass you might notice more of a change in tone. In my experience of alembic basses with a predominantly maple construction is that they have an extremely bright powerful and clear sound all the way down from the top to the low end.  You might justifiably ask why then do I use such a bright bass like that as my main bass for reggae. Well the bottom end is really deep clean and impressive and you never lose the clarity in the notes even on a low B string.

The impact of wood on tone of electric guitars and basses is something I have a keen interest in and my understanding is based on my readings mainly on this forum and me trying to determine why my basses sound the way they do.
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