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lenny_d

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« Reply #30 on: September 28, 2009, 10:52:05 AM »
I think the idea is great...if it actually works in practice. Radical, yes, and I suppose there may be refinements (or maybe they've already worked them out) over time.  
I've always been frustrated by guitars that 'sounded bad'. Every now and then a 'good' one would come along and I would notice. But I didn't know why...
 
Waaay back when, I remember attempting to tune a Farfisa organ, trying to correct the horribly sharp-beating M3 interval. Fixing it was the easy part, but then the gremlin of chasing the next worst interval was ever-present and ever-elusive. I gave up in frustration, thinking something was wrong with the instrument. That was looong before I ever learned about temperament, and all its iterations. Suddenly the light went on, everything has to be equally out of tune! And then I could hear temperament. Wow. But I've always heard it. And maybe why I love choral music (Dale Warland) so much, along with symphonic pieces. They are constantly tuning on the fly. Even the dissonances are perfectly tuned ('cept for the occasional clunker).
 
Anyway, I think the idea is correct, and I understand that it is necessary and why. Maybe they've trumped equal temperament with a better mousetrap.
 
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elwoodblue

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« Reply #31 on: September 28, 2009, 11:27:25 AM »
Interesting thread,
....needs more pictures : )
 
 

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« Reply #32 on: September 28, 2009, 12:33:20 PM »
Cool picture!

john_judge

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« Reply #33 on: September 28, 2009, 01:24:53 PM »
Yeah  E with a little color that make a great Logo!
very nice

jos

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« Reply #34 on: September 28, 2009, 02:30:36 PM »
I just wonder how The Rolling Stones would sound with the True Temperament system on their guitars?or all the Blues musicians? maybe they get the flat third finally right?  
I think its time for us to clean up the music production/industry once again like we did in the -80\s. The drummers do not play as tight as the machines as we know and so on??
OK seriously, I know guys who use the system on guitars and it seems that they like it (so far) one friend told me that it sounds so ?in tune? that it sounds almost ?out of tune?.
When I did study (double bass) classical music in the -70\s I did learn that with violin and other fretless instruments F# is sharper than Gb and when you play Gb its more flat than F# I was told that the ear is telling to do so and its always been like that.  
So friends watch out for guitars and basses in the future with separate F# and Gb on the fretboard???OK sorry for the jokes but the violin thing is true.  
 
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« Reply #35 on: September 29, 2009, 02:51:17 AM »
elwoodblue..nice pic..where was that obtained from??
 
jos..frets betweens frets..a possibility??

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« Reply #36 on: September 29, 2009, 02:55:06 AM »
I pointed my guitarists at the wiggly frets website and the first comment I got was...
what happens when I bend a string?.
 
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« Reply #37 on: September 29, 2009, 03:15:17 AM »
jeeze..have you seen the Wiki entries on this subject??
It is a lot of heavy reading..do I really need all this info when I play 'Crossroads' with my blues band or 'Ran Kan Kan' with the Salsa band??(LOL)

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« Reply #38 on: September 29, 2009, 04:23:52 AM »
Graeme - to answer that question: it goes out of tune.
 
Indeed.

elwoodblue

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« Reply #39 on: September 29, 2009, 10:36:47 AM »
Terry,
 I forget which site I found that picture at,
I was searching for an Isaac Asimov article on how the standard western intervals were derived.
 (Has anyone come across this article? I haven't found it online)
 A search in google images of pythagoras monochord
will bring up many results with the drawing.
 
Graeme,  
 The true temperament website states string bending will not be affected ...I'd have to guess that it would be affected...might even be musical : )