Author Topic: Sf2 settings  (Read 453 times)

robthejock

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« Reply #15 on: August 01, 2003, 12:32:41 AM »
Guys,it's great to wake up in the morning, log on, and find advice like this from people across the world who really share a common interest. It really is a pleasure.Many, many thanks.      
What drives us in pursuit of that sound inside our heads? I've never been into pedals and effects,not even EQ really, as I've always used tubes, so the SF2 is going from one extreme to the other for me, but I am becoming convinced that the soundtrack to my life can be played through this baby.If the pusuit of tone is our goal, there is a good chance that the answer is contained in this little box. There you go,early morning philosophy. Cheerio for now, Rob

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« Reply #16 on: August 01, 2003, 08:56:27 AM »
I find that I'm sort of the other way around, rather than pursuing a sound in my head, the sound seems to drive me.
 
I pick it up and I play it, and the way it sounds makes me play a certain way. If it's clean and sweet, my early classical guitar training takes over, and I catch myself using arpeggios and vibrato and being more melodic, whereas a different sound might put me more in a motown groove.
 
As for effects and amps and whatnot - I used to work for Precision Audio in Los Angeles, at one point maintaining installations at The Roxy, Gazzari's, The Whiskey and The Palace, while also building big road rigs of anywhere from 5kw up to  50kw, and after having started on an Acoustic 360, then gone to a Sun Colossium, then a pair of SVTs and eventually arriving at a pair of GK800RBs matched with a pair of GK 4412s (4x12 reflex loaded, 2x10 front loaded), I ultimately ended up getting away from bass amps altogether and just using a cut-down PA rig - Crest Audio stereo tri-amp (2 @ 500wpc, 1 @ 100wpc), Precision Audio boxes w/Emilar speakers and Emilar horns with JBL drivers, 2x15, 4x10, 2x2 horn.
 
One of the main benefits of using such a setup was that I could send the signal out of my rack to the snake head, then catch a return off the board into my amps and I would hear the same bass sound that was being sent to the mains.
 
I could also catch a monitor feed and mix that in to my amps if I wanted to, and since club montiors  were always worthless, I would normally do that when playing a club.
 
To this day I still prefer to just use a clean PA for amplification and though I haven't played a stage gig for years, for practice I use a little Yamaha PA with one 250w per channel stereo amp and two boxes, each with a single 15 and a 1 horn.
 
As for effects, I am a well-known and notorious gear thief. Over the years guitarists especially have learned that when something is missing from their rack or pedalboard, they should first look to see if I've patched it into my rig. I've been known to run chorus/flange, comp/limit, eq, aural exiters, pitch followers, spring reverbs, distortions, delays - anything I can get my hands on I'll patch it into my rig. I've used Leslies then miked them (I love Leslies). I've taken stick-on drumhead mics and stuck them to my bass. I used a talk box (I liked it, but I would drool too much). Ebow? Yup, bought one of the first ones that came out - awesome.
 
When the Sonic Maximizer first came out, I tried it and it was cool, but it seemed to me that it would be better to use it on a PA than on some stage rig. Mine was mono so I swiped a stereo model from a keyboard player and patched it in between the mixing board and the mains on a 4kw club PA. I had to tweak the timing a hair as bodies filled the room, but it was excellent, but I stopped using mine for bass after that.
 
I like amp/speaker rigs where the spectrum analyzer matches what the tone generator is doing as closely as possible, then I prefer to do whatever signal processing I'm going to do before I send it to the amps. But when it comes to processing that signal, anything goes.

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« Reply #17 on: August 02, 2003, 09:03:45 PM »
Scrub...its obsession like that which makes this such a good discussion group.
 
David B.

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« Reply #18 on: August 04, 2003, 02:31:25 PM »
Cntrabssn and Jimbob, you are the guys when it comes to tone. Between both of you, your advice gave me a life saving sound on Sunday afternoon. There I was, in a dep gig with a delta blues band in the depths of the industrial heartland of England,at a pub full of drunks with scars, tattoos, foul language, violence.. and as for the men!! Get my drift? (think the Blues Brothers bar scene without the protective fence in front of the stage). They began to play,BB King, worried looks all round,this is'nt disco, the sound of flick knifes being unearthed, after 12 bars I'm in. WHAT A KILLER TONE! Suddenly the feet are tapping, god, they're dancing, they love us.We get paid extra to play another set! They have a whip round and pay us even more!This was one serious big bad irresistable bass tone.They want us back next week.Sure,call us, we say, as we give a false phone number.One for the memoirs. Scrub, I love your post.There are a million roads to our goal and I'm going down every one.  
 
Rob

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« Reply #19 on: August 06, 2003, 01:10:41 PM »
Haha! If I was in England, then it's entirely possible I might have been in that crowd. Sounds like my kind of people - especially the women!
 
Actually, that's a lie...I wouldn't have been there. I became a single father 16 years ago, and I swore off booze, bikes and broads until my son was 18 years old. Two years to go and then it's party time! (Any guesses how long it's been since I've played on stage?) My only real fear is that when I start riding again, I'll do something stupid like pull up in front of a club looking badass, then hop off the bike - forgetting to put the kickstand down.
 
Elwood: Uh, what kind of music do you usually have here?
Barmaid: We have both kinds, Country AND Western!