Author Topic: F-2B Muddy Channel  (Read 528 times)

rv_bass

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F-2B Muddy Channel
« on: May 20, 2018, 06:45:48 PM »
I was hoping some of the more tech savvy people here might have some thoughts.  Channel A on my F-2B sounds muddy compared to channel B (channel B is clean sounding).  Does anyone know what might cause this to happen?  I was thinking it might need a tube replacement.  I have a spare F-2B and both channels sound clean on that one.  Both F-2Bs are older blue versions with red knobs.  Thanks in advance!

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Re: F-2B Muddy Channel
« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2018, 06:51:25 PM »
Have you tried swapping tubes from one of the channels that sounds clean? Probably a good place to start your troubleshooting.

lbpesq

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Re: F-2B Muddy Channel
« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2018, 07:46:56 PM »
I'd start by swapping the tube from channel A to B and vice versa, and see it the problem follows the tube.

Bill, tgo

rv_bass

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Re: F-2B Muddy Channel
« Reply #3 on: May 21, 2018, 09:41:07 AM »
Thanks, I’m a knucklehead and missed the obvious, I’ll try that tonight and report back.

rv_bass

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Re: F-2B Muddy Channel
« Reply #4 on: May 21, 2018, 06:39:21 PM »
Well, I switched the tubes between Channels A and B and Channel A was still muddy, and Channel B was clean with the tube from Channel A.  I also put the tubes from the first F-2B (the one with the muddy Channel A) into a second F-2b and switched the tubes between Channels A & B in the second F-2B, and both channels were clean regardless of tube used.   So, looks like I have a muddy Channel A in one of my F-2Bs.  I might bring it down to have an amp tech look at it and see if there is a way to get the channel sounding clean.

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Re: F-2B Muddy Channel
« Reply #5 on: May 21, 2018, 06:49:20 PM »
For what it's worth, as my memory is somewhat less than reliable, I once had a similar problem.  One of the channels was sounding muddy, so I switched the tubes.  After the switch, the same channel was muddy; so I took it to a local tech.  He put new tubes in, and it was fine.

That was some time ago, and my memory is less than reliable.

rv_bass

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Re: F-2B Muddy Channel
« Reply #6 on: May 21, 2018, 07:07:09 PM »
Thanks, David.  I’ll brimg it down to a tech tomorrow and see how it goes. 

lbpesq

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Re: F-2B Muddy Channel
« Reply #7 on: May 21, 2018, 07:32:16 PM »
Let you tech know the F-2B schematic is readily available with a google search.

Bill, tgo

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Re: F-2B Muddy Channel
« Reply #8 on: May 22, 2018, 03:24:26 PM »
The schematics are usually much closer than that - it's also pasted under the lid.

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Re: F-2B Muddy Channel
« Reply #9 on: May 22, 2018, 04:38:58 PM »
Thanks, Mica, I was just signing in to say the same thing :)

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Re: F-2B Muddy Channel
« Reply #10 on: May 22, 2018, 05:03:31 PM »
Oh, you guys are good!

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Re: F-2B Muddy Channel
« Reply #11 on: May 23, 2018, 10:59:54 AM »
For starters:
Exercise the pots. If the F2-B has contact switches inside the case on the jacks (either the F2-B or the F1-X does, I don't remember which) clean them by carefully inserting a fine sandpaper strip cut and folded over, between the points and pulling it through them a few times.  Run a 9mm pistol cleaning brass brush into the input/output jacks to clean them.