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Title: Return to Forever at Vienne Jazz Festival, France.
Post by: pierreyves on July 22, 2011, 11:03:01 AM
Here is my little report:
 
http://www.batraciens-reptiles.com/return_to_forever_2011.html (http://www.batraciens-reptiles.com/return_to_forever_2011.html)
 
enjoy
Title: Return to Forever at Vienne Jazz Festival, France.
Post by: tbrannon on July 22, 2011, 11:47:43 AM
WOW!!  Great photos.  You got up close and personal with the gear.  I've never seen such good photos of his rack setup.  Looks like you had a blast.
Title: Return to Forever at Vienne Jazz Festival, France.
Post by: mario_farufyno on July 22, 2011, 02:33:44 PM
What a show this must have been, incredible place!
Title: Return to Forever at Vienne Jazz Festival, France.
Post by: pierreyves on July 22, 2011, 02:42:23 PM
great show... under the rain !! be patient and come back tomorrow night, I'm sending some videos on dailymotion...
Title: Return to Forever at Vienne Jazz Festival, France.
Post by: mike13 on July 22, 2011, 07:18:55 PM
I am close friends with Nunzio,Franks brother in OZ
Title: Return to Forever at Vienne Jazz Festival, France.
Post by: bigredbass on July 22, 2011, 10:27:07 PM
It's 'School Days' alright . . . I feel like I get taken to school every time I see it or hear it !
 
So, what's with the Swallowtail inlays?
 
J o e y
Title: Return to Forever at Vienne Jazz Festival, France.
Post by: elwoodblue on July 23, 2011, 01:15:17 PM
Wow.great pictures and thanks for the vids.
I spent a few minutes just looking at the F-1X settings. What's the story with the modded preamp  
(the top unit) ?  
Amazing shots of his Alembics,well done !
 
Elwood
Title: Return to Forever at Vienne Jazz Festival, France.
Post by: adriaan on July 23, 2011, 01:28:09 PM
Power outs for two Series basses?
Title: Return to Forever at Vienne Jazz Festival, France.
Post by: pierreyves on July 23, 2011, 03:14:18 PM
You can listen to the last video. The first F1-x is customized to have the DS5-R inside and after I dont understand the output from the first F1-X to the second.....I could took pictures of the back side of the rack.
Title: Return to Forever at Vienne Jazz Festival, France.
Post by: tbrannon on July 23, 2011, 03:28:21 PM
Joey,
 
I believe the swallowtail inlays are the result of a bass that they were building custom for another club member (keith?)- however, something about the bass (neck taper?)  wasn't correct, so they restarted another bass for keith and then took this bass and customized the neck to Stanley's personal neck preference.  
 
There is a thread somewhere on the forum where I asked and the question was answered.   Will try to find the link for that.
Title: Return to Forever at Vienne Jazz Festival, France.
Post by: adriaan on July 24, 2011, 03:29:04 AM
Some guesswork here, but the top F-1X has the two power outs. Then there's a jumper cable from jack #2 on the top one, to #1 on the bottom one - so that's probably how the bottom F-1X gets its signal.
 
Assuming he's running the pickups into separate channels, there could be internal wiring to route one pickup signal to jack #2 (though I would hazard a guess that you can always run a jumper cable from the second jack, like on a two-channel Marshall head).
 
The switch just above jack #2 could select the instrument input, or the pickup to be routed to the other F-1X.
Title: Return to Forever at Vienne Jazz Festival, France.
Post by: adriaan on July 24, 2011, 03:30:37 AM
(http://club.alembic.com/Images/411/109690.jpg)
Title: Return to Forever at Vienne Jazz Festival, France.
Post by: elwoodblue on July 24, 2011, 08:41:21 AM
Ahhh... I didn't see that that cord was a jumper,  
 
  So instead of using the high/low outs on the back he is using 2 F-!X's , one for highs,one for lows...with a tone stack available for each.
I see the crossovers for this show are opened up to allow more  frequencies that wouldn't be available when using one F-1X and it's crossover.
 
I see the mark on the lower units crossover is about where I place mine when using two cabs.
(my recent experience playing with leslies and x-over frequencies has taught me sometimes a little overlap can add warmth...but that's with a guitar and a situation when comb-filtering is the main goal).
 Your  assumption about jack 2 makes sense, otherwise it would start as a summed mono signal then split for amplification...and I can't imagine Stanley not using discrete pathways for each pickup.
 
Elwood
Title: Return to Forever at Vienne Jazz Festival, France.
Post by: jazzyvee on July 24, 2011, 09:49:21 AM
Excellent photo's Pierre. It is too expensive for me to go to the shows this time round as none are in England. I hope to get a dvd of the concert when it is released.
 
 
Jazzyvee
Title: Return to Forever at Vienne Jazz Festival, France.
Post by: pierreyves on July 24, 2011, 02:16:45 PM
Sorry but I really dont understand what you have understood elwood... If I remember my vision of the back, It seems that Stan used the mono output but I'm not sure.... well next time I take pictures of ALL, include the mosquito on the top of the rack.
What the video said about the SVT use ? the SVT2 is for the upright no ?  
I posted a new video on the soundcheck.
Title: Return to Forever at Vienne Jazz Festival, France.
Post by: elwoodblue on July 24, 2011, 03:48:12 PM
Yes, that's correct regarding the SVT2,
  ...the SVT4 is for the electrics (and the  the little fender on top for highs?)  
   
   Your pictures are close and clear and I feel lucky to be able to analyze his settings.
 I bet a macro of the mosquito would be almost as fascinating ;)
 
Elwood
Title: Return to Forever at Vienne Jazz Festival, France.
Post by: pierreyves on July 26, 2011, 12:24:03 AM
Elwood, could you be kind to explain me what you said because I did understand... sorry but google translation didn't help me... (post 1251) thanks.
A question now: if he use one F1-X per pickup, how he do to get the both sounds pickup's on the pedalboard, because its not stereo ?
Title: Return to Forever at Vienne Jazz Festival, France.
Post by: elwoodblue on July 26, 2011, 07:04:45 AM
Ok...I'll see if I can rephrase post 1251
 
My best guess:
The signal would go stereo from the bass to the top unit ,
 the highs going through the top F-1X...the lows could be switched to the lower F-1X or kept in the top unit for simpler set-ups (smaller gigs?).  
   
One of the advantages I see with using both F-1x's is that you have more tone controls for your high and low signals. The crossover frequencies can also be adjusted with more flexibility using both units.  
 
  Good question regarding the pedal board.
 It may be in a loop from his rack with a mono send and stereo return.  
 Only his gear technician knows for sure.  
 
 I hope this translates better.
Elwood
Title: Return to Forever at Vienne Jazz Festival, France.
Post by: pierreyves on July 26, 2011, 08:35:35 AM
Thank for your help Elwood.
I'm asking about this because with my setting I cannot have real stereo (stereo is a great word, we could talk more on separate pickups signal) for the only reason my pedal board can affect only one pickup. I use the mono output of the DS-5R and go after to the F1-X, the back output send signal to pedal board. I have both pickups on pedal board and on both channels of my amp.
I don't know how use one F1-X per pickup separate (each pickup use 1 F1-X) and pedal board or Lexicon digital unit...
Any suggestion ?
Here is a icture of the back of SVT4 to try to understand Stanley's rig. Maybe somebody has the cellar number of his technician ? ;o)
If you look at the svt4 back, he cannot use crossover's outputs of the F1-X: it's mean he need 4 input in his amp and If I remember me good, he used the fullrange output of the F1-X. The question about pedalboard stay a mystery or he use only for the most used pickup ?
 
(http://club.alembic.com/Images/411/109920.jpg)
Title: Return to Forever at Vienne Jazz Festival, France.
Post by: pierreyves on August 03, 2011, 02:30:54 PM
Title: Return to Forever at Vienne Jazz Festival, France.
Post by: pierreyves on March 16, 2012, 08:23:33 PM
hello,
somebody know the exact private adresse of Stanley (not his agent), to send some pictures by post ?
Thanks a lot
Title: Return to Forever at Vienne Jazz Festival, France.
Post by: collyman on March 19, 2012, 07:47:38 PM
Pierre, Bonjour!, did you see this video of Stanley's set-up??
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FRe4_7wTec&feature=endscreen&NR=1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FRe4_7wTec&feature=endscreen&NR=1)
-Colly
Title: Return to Forever at Vienne Jazz Festival, France.
Post by: jos on March 19, 2012, 09:00:21 PM
Hi Pierre-Yves! Great report!! More of those thank you! I did listen to RTF4 in Hamburg and it was a great band and a really good show! Stanley did have a great bass sound. The new Ampeg rig matches his Alembics very well. Stanley is one of those players who knows about sound and cares about it.  
J-O-S
Title: Return to Forever at Vienne Jazz Festival, France.
Post by: pierreyves on March 20, 2012, 02:21:33 AM
collymanm, uhuhu if you READ my page, you see this video at the bottom... ;o)
Thanks Jos. Waaaaaaaaawwwww Jan Olof ???? My God, what a surprise !!! I just read your pofile. I have 2 of your album, one with a big 5 strings Alembic  Nice player, master ;o) Stanley's sound is first his fingers, second Alembic, third tube amplification. For me SWR or Ampeg is approximatively the same. He has a good engineer too. He know exactly find (and remember with some ltlle adhesive strip) some fine sounds on his basses. It's enough difficult to find the same, even I have same gear (approximately)
Here is one of my sound:  
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1_C1ueMzJE& (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1_C1ueMzJE&)
I use always both pickups, I play on a mix of both volume pot to find some nice sounds.
 
Anyway, if somebody has his private adress (of Stanley), please send me by email, thanks
Title: Return to Forever at Vienne Jazz Festival, France.
Post by: terryc on March 27, 2012, 06:46:55 AM
I ain't an anorak when it comes to sound settings, I just turn the knobs until it sounds fine to me out front BUT did you notice the lack of pick up selector on the lower horn of the tenor bass...sort of Signature meets Series electronics
Title: Return to Forever at Vienne Jazz Festival, France.
Post by: pierreyves on March 27, 2012, 07:04:14 AM
terryc, it's not the tenor bass but the standard bass EADG. The tenor is the cocobolo one. I dont know why the pickup selector of the buckeye bass have no corner... maybe progressive selector or just esthetic ?
http://club.alembic.com/Images/631/86521.html?1268101476 (http://club.alembic.com/index.php?topic=7274)
Title: Return to Forever at Vienne Jazz Festival, France.
Post by: keith_h on March 27, 2012, 08:47:43 AM
When I had the bass built I did not like that the  pointer knob banged up my hand so we went with a round knurled knob. There is a ridge on the top that indicates direction.  
 
Keith
Title: Return to Forever at Vienne Jazz Festival, France.
Post by: pierreyves on March 27, 2012, 08:54:34 AM
Keith, thank you to remove the mystery ;o))