Alembic Guitars Club

Alembic products => Dreaming... for now => Topic started by: pierreyves on January 12, 2009, 07:58:49 PM

Title: BLACK SHORT SCALE serie I
Post by: pierreyves on January 12, 2009, 07:58:49 PM

Hello, to continue this old thread, my choice is now oriented to african blackwood, Dalbergia melanoxylon, the darkest as possible, with discreet pattern as shown here:  
(http://club.alembic.com/Images/402/60060.jpg)
  Core would be with the same wood, accent laminate with the whitest maple possible BUT thicker, like Stanley's basses:  
(http://club.alembic.com/Images/402/60061.jpg)
  7 Neck laminates with 3 ebony  Is it possible to have a visual simulation with pictures ?  As said in the old thread, quality of african blackwood is like or similar cocobolo, rosewood... BUT the blackwood is stronger and more dense.  One of my questions: what is difference between vermillon and blackwood for the core .. not in the sound because you never try, but on the physical caracteristics ?  I like more vermillon as mahogany for the sound, BUT, it's difficult to have a significative difference... maybe more attack, more sustain ?  (Message edited by pierreyves on January 12, 2009)

Title: Re: BLACK SHORT SCALE serie I
Post by: pierreyves on January 12, 2009, 08:37:17 PM

Quality of blackwood, in french:
 
quote:Dalbergia melanoxylon / appel? commun?ment /  L??b?ne du Mozambique
 
Ce bois offre, en effet, les caract?ristiques essentielles, pour ce qui est de la construction de la caisse de r?sonance et de l?esth?tique des guitares de concert et de studios, plus particuli?rement, ? savoir :                  
           
 
    * UNE SONORIT? EXCEPTIONNELLE, comparable ? celle des meilleurs bois de rose br?siliens.  
    * UNE DENSIT? EXTR?ME et CONSTANTE. Ce bois se travaille bien au burin et au ciseau. Il se plient bien et ne se fracture pas. Il permet de construire des caisses de r?sonance ? toute ?preuve, m?me ? partir de d?coupes de 2.4 mm pour le dos et de 2.0 mm pour les ?clisses.
    * UN GRAIN FIN ET SERR? qui permet d??viter tout besoin d?obturer avant l?application de la laque.
    * UNE ESTH?TIQUE ?L?GANTE, de couleur pr?dominante noire, qui permet de belles incrustations. Le bois gagnera en esth?tique avec l??ge et ne perdra pas sa couleur.
 
in english:
 
quote:Comparative tests have demonstrated that the most truthful and powerful acoustic guitars are achieved from those with the back and sides of:
 
DALBERGIA   MELANOXYLON / AFRICAN BLACKWOOD
 
This tonewood offers essential features to luthiers, aiming at building outstanding concert and studio guitars:
 
   1. Tap tone, comparable to the very best Brazilian rosewood,
   2. A very hard, structurally consistent wood of highest stability that works well under chisel and scrapper, bends well and won?t crack. Structurally very sound guitars even milled down to 2.4 mm for the back and 2.0 mm for the sides.
   3. Fine and closed grain, not requiring any filling prior to applying lacquer or shellac.
   4. Smart aesthetic, the predominant black colour of which makes inlays possible. Does age well and won?t lose colour.
 
Source web:  PROSONO international (http://www.prosono.co.za/en/luthiers.shtml)
 
Nice link with nice picture of this nice wood:
 
 quality of african blackwood (http://www.african-hardwoods.com/blackwood/)
 
Maybe I will choose this wood in place of ebony for the neck laminates ?
 
hello, somebody here ?? I'm speaking alone .. yes all people are sleeping now !! ;o))
 
(Message edited by pierreyves on January 12, 2009)

Title: Re: BLACK SHORT SCALE serie I
Post by: altgrendel on January 13, 2009, 05:19:17 AM

A beautiful idea.
 
If you do this, you'll probably be better off getting the wood blank yourself and supplying it to the shop when you order your bass. I'm pretty sure if you search the site you'll find what size piece you'll need.
 
That or you can email Mica.

Title: Re: BLACK SHORT SCALE serie I
Post by: pierreyves on January 18, 2009, 11:56:00 PM

Hi Mica, is it possible to have simulation picture of my project, serie I with blackwood, 3 ebony neck laminate and thicker body laminates ?
Thank's
 
(Message edited by pierreyves on January 18, 2009)

Title: Re: BLACK SHORT SCALE serie I
Post by: mica on January 21, 2009, 07:15:01 PM

Sorry, I can't really provide a simulation of a bass. Here's something in Photoshop to roughly give you an idea:
(http://club.alembic.com/Images/402/60371.jpg)

Title: Re: BLACK SHORT SCALE serie I
Post by: pierreyves on February 15, 2009, 01:32:57 AM

GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGREATTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!
lot of thank's, please don't close this thread, It would be my next and last bass !

Title: Re: BLACK SHORT SCALE serie I
Post by: hifiguy on February 15, 2009, 10:43:49 AM

Now THAT is exceptionally cool. even for an Alembic!  Put some maple or rosewood knobs on it and peg the meter, Pierre!

Title: Re: BLACK SHORT SCALE serie I
Post by: David Houck on February 15, 2009, 12:40:44 PM

Pierre-Yves; the threads archive (close) automatically when they reach certain thresholds of inactivity.  To keep it open, you just need to post to it from time to time to bump it back to the top of the list.

Title: Re: BLACK SHORT SCALE serie I
Post by: pierreyves on February 15, 2009, 12:49:39 PM

Hi big Dave, I know that but in France, if you do that, you are assimilated as spammer !!
BUMP!!!
Here are some profesionnal with Photoshop to do a nice test with nice colorisation in deep black of the red tiger ?
 
(http://club.alembic.com/Images/402/61244.jpg)

Title: Re: BLACK SHORT SCALE serie I
Post by: pierreyves on February 15, 2009, 01:14:28 PM

something like that but more professionnal, with a dream of wood grain ...
 
(http://club.alembic.com/Images/402/61247.jpg)

Title: Re: BLACK SHORT SCALE serie I
Post by: altgrendel on February 16, 2009, 04:14:29 PM

Actually, that's not bad looking. I wonder if they could do a one color finish exactly like that?

Title: Re: BLACK SHORT SCALE serie I
Post by: pierreyves on February 17, 2009, 09:47:06 AM

no this is too black, I would like something very dark brown, near black, with very light wood grain.
 
Like that:  
 
 

Title: Re: BLACK SHORT SCALE serie I
Post by: edwin on February 17, 2009, 07:27:15 PM

Macassar ebony. It would be beautiful, but heavy!
 
Edwin

Title: Re: BLACK SHORT SCALE serie I
Post by: pierreyves on February 18, 2009, 06:56:46 AM

Edwin, ebony is effectivly too heavy and I don't really seen something wich were peasant for me.
 
HERE IS EXACTLY WHAT I WAN'T, I think ..
Not totally black, deep color very dark brown close to black and we can see lightly wood pattern!!
 
(http://club.alembic.com/Images/402/61431.jpg)
 
(Message edited by pierreyves on February 18, 2009)

Title: Re: BLACK SHORT SCALE serie I
Post by: pierreyves on February 18, 2009, 10:03:12 AM

little story, from red tiger to my dream...
my dream is the right one of course!
 
(http://club.alembic.com/Images/402/61438.jpg)
 
(Message edited by pierreyves on February 19, 2009)

Title: Re: BLACK SHORT SCALE serie I
Post by: pierreyves on February 19, 2009, 06:10:58 AM

best result's picture here:  
(http://club.alembic.com/Images/402/61473.jpg)
 
(http://club.alembic.com/Images/402/61474.jpg)

Title: Re: BLACK SHORT SCALE serie I
Post by: pierreyves on February 19, 2009, 06:58:02 AM

and now, Ladies & Gentlemen, look at the additionnal wood truss rod's cover !!
 
(http://club.alembic.com/Images/402/61477.jpg)

Title: Re: BLACK SHORT SCALE serie I
Post by: eligilam on February 19, 2009, 07:16:54 AM

Go ahead and order this thing, man!  Let's get the FTC thread rolling!

Title: Re: BLACK SHORT SCALE serie I
Post by: pierreyves on February 19, 2009, 02:24:04 PM

FTC??

Title: Re: BLACK SHORT SCALE serie I
Post by: dadabass2001 on February 19, 2009, 02:28:06 PM

Factory To Customer,
 so you (and we) can watch it being built.

Title: Re: BLACK SHORT SCALE serie I
Post by: pierreyves on February 21, 2009, 01:19:30 AM

Mica, is my project realizable ? Have you african blackwood's sample ?

Title: Re: BLACK SHORT SCALE serie I
Post by: crobbins on February 27, 2009, 04:33:21 PM

Very cool.

Title: Re: BLACK SHORT SCALE serie I
Post by: mica on February 27, 2009, 04:58:55 PM

I have African Blackwood available to me. We would purchase this specifically for your job once the order is confirmed. There's not much to see with this wood - especially in a raw form, pretty much black!

Title: Re: BLACK SHORT SCALE serie I
Post by: pierreyves on February 27, 2009, 05:16:00 PM

its possible to have some pictures of what you get?

Title: Re: BLACK SHORT SCALE serie I
Post by: crobbins on March 01, 2009, 11:43:40 AM

What about using the blackwood for the core wood? And using some other real nice wood as top and back?

Title: Re: BLACK SHORT SCALE serie I
Post by: pierreyves on March 01, 2009, 01:08:58 PM

why and what for realy nice wood ? What mean ? do you mean the african blackwood is not your favorite ? What wood could you put with african blackwood core ?

Title: Re: BLACK SHORT SCALE serie I
Post by: funkyjazzjunky on March 02, 2009, 02:15:08 PM

What about Wenge for a dark top?

Title: Re: BLACK SHORT SCALE serie I
Post by: pierreyves on March 27, 2009, 03:59:18 PM

wenge ?? buuuhhh ... a friend has this wood on the floor of his house .. no ....

Title: Re: BLACK SHORT SCALE serie I
Post by: pierreyves on April 18, 2009, 09:39:56 AM

Mica, have you some pictures of your available blackwood ?

Title: Re: BLACK SHORT SCALE serie I
Post by: pierreyves on April 18, 2009, 09:55:30 AM

this example, upper side, is nice (for me).
 
(http://club.alembic.com/Images/402/63996.jpg)

Title: Re: BLACK SHORT SCALE serie I
Post by: mica on April 18, 2009, 10:37:47 AM

I don't have any African Blackwood in stock, we've never used or offered it as a top wood. I have a supplier with some on hand that I can procure for a custom order.  
 
We're going to be receiving some W-I-D-E Ebony in a couple of weeks. These boards will even be big enough for some bookmatch to center builds. I'll post some pictures when they arrive.

Title: Re: BLACK SHORT SCALE serie I
Post by: pierreyves on April 18, 2009, 10:42:47 AM

thank's. What about sound quality you know with melanoxylon versus cocobolo or ebony?

Title: Re: BLACK SHORT SCALE serie I
Post by: mica on April 20, 2009, 01:22:41 PM

I don't have any first hand experience, so I can't comment with any authority. However, since it's a Dalbergia, I would assume it to be similarly toned to other Rosewoods. Its density may override that.
 
A sample piece of the Blackwood is on its way to me. We'll tap it and inspect it, so I'll let you know if I have any other predictions after I get my hands on it on what it will do to/for Alembic sound.

Title: Re: BLACK SHORT SCALE serie I
Post by: mica on April 23, 2009, 07:53:59 PM

My sample piece is an enormous half log that arrived today:
 
(http://club.alembic.com/Images/402/64327.jpg)
 
It's very black. The piece is also quite wide, and will make a beautiful top laminate.  
 
Do I understand correctly from your April 18th picture that you want a satin or oil finish?

Title: Re: BLACK SHORT SCALE serie I
Post by: pierreyves on April 23, 2009, 07:59:21 PM

WAAAWWWW !!!! When I will get money, I will want finish as my SC deluxe, high gloss polyester with satin neck !
Thank's Mica

Title: Re: BLACK SHORT SCALE serie I
Post by: elwoodblue on April 23, 2009, 10:57:38 PM

Wow that is some amazing wood,
Is there any visible figure?
Nice choice Pierre

Title: Re: BLACK SHORT SCALE serie I
Post by: pierreyves on May 27, 2009, 09:43:07 AM

why Alembic don't offer black choice as standard, and why lot of bass are made with coco bolo ?

Title: Re: BLACK SHORT SCALE serie I
Post by: lbpesq on May 27, 2009, 11:07:20 AM

I think the reason a lot of instruments are made with cocobolo is that a lot of people want cocobolo instruments.  I know I picked cocobolo as one of the woods on my Further because I liked it.  
 
Bill, tgo

Title: Re: BLACK SHORT SCALE serie I
Post by: dadabass2001 on May 27, 2009, 04:11:37 PM

Alembic's wood page touts the harmonic  complexity of CB as well, with both lows and highs.
Mike

Title: Re: BLACK SHORT SCALE serie I
Post by: pierreyves on May 28, 2009, 03:12:17 PM

but other woods have similar ability ?! Maple, mahogany..

Title: Re: BLACK SHORT SCALE serie I
Post by: keith_h on May 28, 2009, 07:01:40 PM

My experience is the woods sound different. Maple is much brighter than mahogany. Mahogany has a more rounded tone than maple but not as round as walnut. I would say coco bolo has the characteristics of both mahogany and maple. That is a round but bright tone.
 
Keith

Title: Re: BLACK SHORT SCALE serie I
Post by: altgrendel on May 30, 2009, 02:15:05 AM

A coco-bolo, ebony laminated neck.
 
Interesting idea.

Title: Re: BLACK SHORT SCALE serie I
Post by: jazzyvee on May 30, 2009, 08:44:22 AM

Yeah very interesting, can you imagine the price.....!!! and the weight I guess too.
 
Jazzyvee

Title: Re: BLACK SHORT SCALE serie I
Post by: hendixclarke on May 30, 2009, 10:25:11 AM

I wouldn't want a full ebony neck. From my visits to Africa (on multiple occasions) I would bring home sculptures and ebony artifacts, back to the states. No doubt I love ebony very much and my house has many large and small ebony sculptures, but uses this wood as a neck without maple? Ebony is too brittle for me.  
 
Drop a nice piece of maple on the ground and it will hold, try this with ebony, it will break or chip off. The hardness, makes it great for sustaining but, as a durable wood, for a whole neck... not I.

Title: Re: BLACK SHORT SCALE serie I
Post by: pierreyves on July 05, 2009, 03:00:27 PM

who said without maple in the neck ?

Title: Re: BLACK SHORT SCALE serie I
Post by: hendixclarke on July 17, 2009, 08:43:47 AM

I think a dark bass on stage, with all the lights, (dim or none at all) becomes invisible to the audiance.

Title: Re: BLACK SHORT SCALE serie I
Post by: elwoodblue on July 17, 2009, 09:03:48 AM

here's (http://www.prairiesun.com/Guitars/Dragon.html target=_blank) a nice dark Alembic.
...might be invisible on the stage...but you know they would feel it in their chest.

Title: Re: BLACK SHORT SCALE serie I
Post by: hendixclarke on July 17, 2009, 03:30:33 PM

_ell yeah!

Title: Re: BLACK SHORT SCALE serie I
Post by: pierreyves on July 17, 2009, 10:54:47 PM

sorry but what mean _ell ?

Title: Re: BLACK SHORT SCALE serie I
Post by: hendixclarke on July 17, 2009, 11:05:19 PM

I just removed the h (in respect for children reading...)

Title: Re: BLACK SHORT SCALE serie I
Post by: pierreyves on July 29, 2009, 09:45:07 AM

hendix, what mean brittle ?

Title: Re: BLACK SHORT SCALE serie I
Post by: keith_h on July 29, 2009, 10:54:58 AM

Brittle would translate to fragile in French although it is not the exact same meaning in English.  
 
Keith

Title: Re: BLACK SHORT SCALE serie I
Post by: pierreyves on August 29, 2009, 09:07:54 PM

I'm thinking about african blackwood for the core, neck laminates, top and back. What about the weight ?

Title: Re: BLACK SHORT SCALE serie I
Post by: mica on August 31, 2009, 10:55:25 AM

I can imagine the weight would exceed 13 or 14 pounds. Extremely heavy.

Title: Re: BLACK SHORT SCALE serie I
Post by: pierreyves on August 31, 2009, 11:03:30 AM

what you may feel as dark core ?

Title: Re: BLACK SHORT SCALE serie I
Post by: pierreyves on August 31, 2009, 08:34:35 PM

baf... mines are 10.36172632 pounds... what is the weight of MK 4 balanced k maple ?

Title: Re: BLACK SHORT SCALE serie I
Post by: mica on September 01, 2009, 11:46:28 AM

I'm sorry, I don't quite understand what you mean with baf or feel as dark core maybe you can rephrase?
The weight of course has many variables, but don't you have an MK4 Balance K in Maple?

Title: Re: BLACK SHORT SCALE serie I
Post by: pierreyves on September 01, 2009, 12:19:44 PM

baf = no worries = pas de probl?me.
I had my SC at work yesterday night, I don't have something to take the weight precisly at home OK ?
Feeling = sentir ...
what you think about dark core with african blackwood on top, back & stripes ? I wan't the nearest black for the core...  maybe lighter as ABlackw ?

Title: Re: BLACK SHORT SCALE serie I
Post by: pierreyves on October 08, 2009, 06:03:04 PM

In case of imminent purchase or order, wich retailer may I choose ?

Title: Re: BLACK SHORT SCALE serie I
Post by: keith_h on October 09, 2009, 05:20:34 AM

Pierre-Yves,
You can choose what ever retailer you wish. This is true whether they are in Europe or the United States. I do not know the rules for Europe but in the US the maximum discount a dealer can give is 25% off of the retail price. I know of several European members that have purchased their basses from US dealers due to favorable exchange rates.  
 
Keith

Title: Re: BLACK SHORT SCALE serie I
Post by: pierreyves on October 09, 2009, 12:12:47 PM

in Europe retailer pratice crazy price I know that but, in USA, what retailer give best price, best prestation ? Must I ask to who give me the best ?

Title: Re: BLACK SHORT SCALE serie I
Post by: pierreyves on January 14, 2010, 02:55:08 PM

happy new year !! I'm waiting for any answer even it's not time for that because I bought a serie II to kunfusheriff who arrived 2 days ago at mothership.

Title: Re: BLACK SHORT SCALE serie I
Post by: keith_h on January 15, 2010, 05:04:23 AM

Pierre-Yves,
As I put in my last update the best price you can get is 25% off of the retail price. This means most dealers will offer you the same or close to same price for an instrument.  
 
I sent you a private e-mail last autumn listing two dealers I have dealt with. The sales price was the same from both so I purchased from the dealer  who I was most comfortable doing business with.  
 
Keith

Title: Re: BLACK SHORT SCALE serie I
Post by: adriaan on January 15, 2010, 06:53:08 AM

Remember that you will be paying import taxes (could easily be 30% of declared value) and TVA (over value AND taxes).

Title: Re: BLACK SHORT SCALE serie I
Post by: pierreyves on January 15, 2010, 07:42:27 AM

Hi all and thanks for answer. For Keith, I saw your mail but there are significant difference for prices.
For Adriaan: I know that because I imported 4 basses soon in Europe from US. Here the TVA taxe is 7,6%.

Title: Re: BLACK SHORT SCALE serie I
Post by: pierreyves on February 22, 2010, 09:03:24 AM

Hi,
my feeling said to me it's soon time to begin the FTC of this dream.
Mica, what you have today for african blackwood ?
If I well understand, I will choose a retailer, price negociation and specification with him ?
I send to the retailer I will choose pictures and specification or what ?

Title: Re: BLACK SHORT SCALE serie I
Post by: artswork99 on February 22, 2010, 12:30:00 PM

What a great feeling to have, go for it Pierre-Yves!  Congratulations!  I patiently await the FTC.

Title: Re: BLACK SHORT SCALE serie I
Post by: pierreyves on February 22, 2010, 12:46:55 PM

How start a modest FTC ?

Title: Re: BLACK SHORT SCALE serie I
Post by: gregduboc on February 22, 2010, 02:00:11 PM

Pierre, I really want to see this one!!
Go for it!!
 
Greg

Title: Re: BLACK SHORT SCALE serie I
Post by: pierreyves on February 22, 2010, 02:04:41 PM

In 2 days, I will know if my dream could be reality now or reported... but I'm waiting for news of Mica about repair of my serie II

Title: Re: BLACK SHORT SCALE serie I
Post by: mike1762 on February 22, 2010, 02:16:17 PM

Hey Pierre, this will be a beautiful bass.  Be sure to post a bunch of photo-shopped renderings of your bass in various historic settings.  LOL

Title: Re: BLACK SHORT SCALE serie I
Post by: pierreyves on February 25, 2010, 12:17:43 AM

Mica, any answer (mail, thread) ?

Title: Re: BLACK SHORT SCALE serie I
Post by: mica on February 25, 2010, 06:13:38 PM

Hi Pierre-Yves,
 
I've not been available this week as I was hosting our Japanese distributor Monday-Wednesday. I have forwarded the emails you sent today to my mother, who is preparing the price quotes for the dealer you selected.  
 
I have the same African Blackwood piece available as shown on my post number 6091.  
 
The FTC thread gets started once something has happened in the shop that I can take a picture of, so that will have to wait until that time, but since I know you want to see it, when it starts, I will send you an email.  
 
As for your Koa Series repair, it's currently having the electronics worked on, then we will address the frets and the rest. The work is going according to the schedule we discussed.

Title: Re: BLACK SHORT SCALE serie I
Post by: pierreyves on February 25, 2010, 06:42:15 PM

Great Mica.
How may I have optic impression (?) of the top and back ? and the estimated or approximative weight ?
And my question about body ?
 
For members, here are my specifications:
1/ short scale 30,3/4 inches, 4 strings, right handed, fretted
2/ 3 neck laminates african blackwood/maple
3/ black thaitian MOP (example with pictures?)
4/ side leds amber
5/ crown peghead with bevel front and back
6/ top, back, body and continuous back plate + truss rod cover with african blackwood  (estimated weight versus coco bolo ?) Best would be black tincted mahogany body ?
7/ gold plated hardware with bird tailpiece
8/ inlaid logo with shell
9/ gold shaller machine heads
10/ little larger maple on body as show with attachment picture, but not change body specification.
11/ neck/body dimensions the same standard as my 2004 model, not the new 2009 neck dimension.
12/ standard polyester gloss finish
13/ serie I electronics
14/ a raisonable term of schedule
 
AND of course:
centered tailpiece and adjustable truss rods both way (direction) to be efficient to correct the neck.
 
Only one truss rod is possible ? what you think about ?
 
 
(Message edited by pierreyves on February 25, 2010)

Title: Re: BLACK SHORT SCALE serie I
Post by: the_jester on February 26, 2010, 12:28:40 PM

Wow, this thread is dated... This goes back to the days I was Hendixclarke LOL...
 
Anyway, this should be a interesting build to say the least, and I look forward to a FTC with many pictures. This bass will probably be a Dragon bass (2012) Year of the Dragon. That's awesome!
 
Make it happen!
 
Peace and Love,
 
Hal-

Title: Re: BLACK SHORT SCALE serie I
Post by: pierreyves on February 26, 2010, 04:48:22 PM

I hope the year of dragon bass will soon complete my page:
http://www.batraciens-reptiles.com/alembic.htm (http://www.batraciens-reptiles.com/alembic.htm)

Title: Re: BLACK SHORT SCALE serie I
Post by: jazzyvee on February 26, 2010, 11:46:41 PM

You have some good pictures and memories on your page.  
I've enjoyed looking at them and listening to your bands.  
 
Vous avez quelques bonnes images et m?moires ? votre page.  
J'ai eu plaisir ? les regarder et ? ?couter vos bandes.
 
Jazzyvee

Title: Re: BLACK SHORT SCALE serie I
Post by: pierreyves on February 27, 2010, 04:08:47 AM

Thank's Jazzy, your comment are always kind. Sadly I don't have something good to record with satisfaction.
Merci d'avoir fait l'effort de traduction

Title: Re: BLACK SHORT SCALE serie I
Post by: crobbins on February 28, 2010, 12:25:34 PM

Congrats. This will be a good one. Cheers!

Title: Re: BLACK SHORT SCALE serie I
Post by: mario_farufyno on March 07, 2010, 05:16:43 PM

This Bass will be unique, very special. Great idea having its top in dark wood contrasting with that light creamy maple. Oreo Bass!

Title: Re: BLACK SHORT SCALE serie I
Post by: pierreyves on March 21, 2010, 01:22:42 PM

Oreo ?  I don't know what it's mean... But thank's  
Mica, please, may you post a picture of a beveled peghead and not beveld peghead ?  
I asked too for MOP pictures because I'm not sure what is black thaitian MOP.
I want the usually MOP.
 
... I was looking on Keith bass (congratulation  ) and now I hesitate between gold plated or chrome hardware...
 
Thank's in advance
 
(Message edited by pierreyves on March 21, 2010)
 
(Message edited by pierreyves on March 21, 2010)

Title: Re: BLACK SHORT SCALE serie I
Post by: adriaan on March 21, 2010, 01:41:13 PM

Pierre-Yves - Oreo is the famous chocolate cookie. It has dark black for the top and bottom, with some very light vanilla cream in the middle. Supposed to taste great after you dip it in milk.

Title: Re: BLACK SHORT SCALE serie I
Post by: pierreyves on March 21, 2010, 01:51:35 PM

LOL !! beurk... I don't like cookies...
for my breakfast, green tea, bred, pure olive or argan oil, one apple, one glass of apple juice.
Long life to play my black sc

Title: Re: BLACK SHORT SCALE serie I
Post by: pierreyves on March 22, 2010, 03:15:35 PM

Hi Mica, when you have time before I will order this bass, please post pictures of peghead with and without bevel AND black thaitian MOP AND gold versus chrome harware on a dark bass.
THANK'S

Title: Re: BLACK SHORT SCALE serie I
Post by: altgrendel on March 23, 2010, 05:04:21 PM

I will be looking forward to the factory to customer thread for this bass too.
 
Whenever it happens.
 
Good luck, Pierre-Yves!

Title: Re: BLACK SHORT SCALE serie I
Post by: pierreyves on March 23, 2010, 05:35:54 PM

I'm waiting and looking for some details like gold or chrome hardware, beveled or not peghead... I'm waiting for Mica's pictures about this.
After, the retailer I choose will be able to do a correct price proposition... I hope the thread can start in 2 weeks ?

Title: Re: BLACK SHORT SCALE serie I
Post by: mario_farufyno on March 23, 2010, 07:02:42 PM

Wow, do it in Gold plated Hardware if you can. You're not looking for advice, but gold contrasting with dark wood will be simply outstanding!

Title: Re: BLACK SHORT SCALE serie I
Post by: mica on March 23, 2010, 07:09:53 PM

Here's an example of the peghead bevel:
 

(http://alembic.com/club/messages/402/77952.jpg)
 
 
You've got examples of a peghead without a bevel on each of the Alembics you currently have.  
 
 This shows the gold (http://www3.alembic.com/img/inst/13836_bodyfrontL.jpg) hardware pretty well.  
 
And here's  one for the chrome (http://www3.alembic.com/img/inst/13559_bodyfrontL.jpg) hardware.
 
For the black mother of pearl, this image shows a range of colors:
 

(http://alembic.com/club/messages/402/77953.jpg)
 
 
The color is a smoky gray, but still can flash out to pinks and greens like regular white mother of pearl. Each of these pieces will look different. Here's the same inlays above, from a slightly different angle:
 

(http://alembic.com/club/messages/402/77954.jpg)
 
 
Hope this helps.

Title: Re: BLACK SHORT SCALE serie I
Post by: pierreyves on March 23, 2010, 07:18:58 PM

Yes it's help me and do trouble too... I was speaking with my wife and Tony, I would prefer chrome (not for cost, but for somthing sober with black wood...), difficult to decide...
For inlays, definitely abalone.
For peghead, definitely beveled.

Title: Re: BLACK SHORT SCALE serie I
Post by: pierreyves on March 23, 2010, 07:24:24 PM

new specifications after mail with Susan:
 
1/ short scale 30,3/4 inches, 4 strings, right handed, fretted series II with series I electronics
2/ 3 neck laminates african blackwood/maple based on 7 pieces.
3/ abalone inlays
4/ side leds amber
5/ crown peghead with bevel front and back
6/ top, back, body and continuous back plate + truss rod cover with african blackwood (estimated weight versus coco bolo ?)  
7/ gold/chrome plated hardware with bird tailpiece
8/ inlaid logo with shell
9/ gold/chrome shaller machine heads
10/ little larger maple on body as show with attachment picture, but not change body specification.
11/ neck/body dimensions the same standard as my 2004 model, not the new 2009 neck dimension.
12/ standard polyester gloss finish
13/ serie I electronics
14/ a raisonable term of schedule  
 
 

Title: Re: BLACK SHORT SCALE serie I
Post by: pierreyves on April 04, 2010, 02:09:15 PM

Finally I choose chrome hardware for more sobriety.
The bass is paid, I'm waiting now for wood's choice for the top and back. Maybe Mica will be able as soon as she can the FTC thread ?
 
NOTA BENE: I want the maple whitest possible, or clearest possible.

Title: Re: BLACK SHORT SCALE serie I
Post by: tbrannon on April 05, 2010, 09:05:27 AM

Sounds like a lovely bass- can't wait to see it take shape in the FTC thread.

Title: Re: BLACK SHORT SCALE serie I
Post by: pierreyves on April 16, 2010, 11:04:49 AM

Toby, you must wait because the discussion about the part where we will cut the bass on the piece of african black wood is difficult...

Title: Re: BLACK SHORT SCALE serie I
Post by: mario_farufyno on April 17, 2010, 04:25:01 PM

This looks so exciting...
 
Mica, can you show us a close shot of this slab?
 
* Uh... I mean, sorry.
 
I know this topic is just for you and Pierre, but I think this Bass will be remarkable and I'm just too curious about it.
 
(Message edited by mario farufyno on April 17, 2010)

Title: Re: BLACK SHORT SCALE serie I
Post by: pierreyves on April 17, 2010, 10:09:23 PM

Hi Mario, this thread, as all thread I participate, is open of course...  
Here is the piece of wood the bass will be cut in.
 
 
 
Sorry for my approximative english  
 
The question now is: who begin the FTC thread, Mica or me and what title we will give to it ?
 
Pierre-Yves's Black Short Scale series II with series I electronic ?
No, too long...  
 
Black Short Scale series ?
Black Short Scale ?

Title: Re: BLACK SHORT SCALE serie I
Post by: the_mule on April 18, 2010, 04:42:29 AM

This promises to become a wonderful bass. Blondie will be keeping an eye on its progress, she seems to like dark.
But why Series II with Series I electronics instead of just Series I?
 
Wilfred

Title: Re: BLACK SHORT SCALE serie I
Post by: pierreyves on April 18, 2010, 05:06:45 AM

This bass will become a great bass yes but become THE bass I have imagined in the begenning of this thread.
My options tend to series II (7 piece neck laminated, logo with shell) but I don't need a series II.

Title: Re: BLACK SHORT SCALE serie I
Post by: pierreyves on April 24, 2010, 09:53:33 AM

Sorry, last post I would like to say: I don't need/want series II electronic  
 
...last discussion about the top/back parts...
 
 
 
What the color of the bass will look...

Title: Re: BLACK SHORT SCALE serie I
Post by: mike1762 on April 24, 2010, 10:15:37 AM

Oh my... that will be a gorgeous bass.

Title: Re: BLACK SHORT SCALE serie I
Post by: pierreyves on April 28, 2010, 12:48:44 PM

last choices...  top
(http://club.alembic.com/Images/402/79317.jpg)
  back
(http://club.alembic.com/Images/402/79318.jpg)
  african blackwood example from this piece
(http://club.alembic.com/Images/402/79319.jpg)

Title: Re: BLACK SHORT SCALE serie I
Post by: gregduboc on April 28, 2010, 01:29:55 PM

This bass is going to be gorgeous.
I can't wait to see the progress!
Congratulation Pierre-Yves!!
 
Greg

Title: Re: BLACK SHORT SCALE serie I
Post by: pierreyves on May 20, 2010, 09:46:33 AM

Hi everybody! the FTC or build record (?) will start the next week !!!  
 
(Message edited by pierreyves on May 20, 2010)

Title: Re: BLACK SHORT SCALE serie I
Post by: pierreyves on June 11, 2010, 12:05:22 PM

...not started sorry...

Title: Re: BLACK SHORT SCALE serie I
Post by: pierreyves on June 28, 2010, 02:08:28 PM

Mica, you can start as soon as you can...

Title: Re: BLACK SHORT SCALE serie I
Post by: pierreyves on July 26, 2010, 12:03:24 AM

MIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIICA ?

Title: Re: BLACK SHORT SCALE serie I
Post by: pierreyves on August 04, 2010, 10:20:08 PM

Ok, this thread is finally close, here start the FTC:
http://club.alembic.com/Images/631/83382.html?1280282913 (http://club.alembic.com/index.php?topic=7211)