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Title: "Mean" sound
Post by: pinbacking on August 01, 2011, 07:34:47 PM
I'm quite a ways from my custom bass, but of course I daydream about it everyday.  What I want out of it is a more aggressive, mean sound. I've already decided on set neck, ash body.  What I'm really curious about opinions on is what would be the best electronics/pickup configuration for that badass sound.  I was thinking 2 fat boys with Europa/rogue electronics, but I really don't know and was hoping for some insight
Title: "Mean" sound
Post by: sonicus on August 01, 2011, 08:57:35 PM
If I want GROWL  ? I can get that from running stereo with Series I/II Electronics from my D5S-R  Alembic Power  supply  or Alembic  IN-2 directly into an Alembic SF-2 Super Filter then to Alembic F-2B then to Crest Power amp to EV 10  speakers in Mesa Cabs .   With your SF-2 Dial in Lower mid range GROWL off the Bridge pickup.    
 
       I think if you don't want to spring for Series Electronics  
Anniversary Electronics in Stereo  would be nice .  I used to bi-amp  but recently have gone back to playing Stereo like I experimented with over 30 years ago. The difference NOW is that I have the SF-2  : if you want mean that little guy gives MEAN!  If you want nice it gives NICE  
If you want ANY sound  ________!!!_!_!_!_!_!_!  Gives that too ____
 
    Sonic Regards __ bass dreams are fun___
 
ASH body might work well attack wise on the transient response!
 
(Message edited by sonicus on August 01, 2011)
Title: "Mean" sound
Post by: rami on August 02, 2011, 09:51:35 AM
I found that in my experiences, the absolute meanest, growliest Bass out there is the basic Excel. Just the most basic version with one pickup - WOW!!!
 
I fell so in love with it.....well, most of you guys know the rest!
 
Cheers
 
Title: "Mean" sound
Post by: pinbacking on August 02, 2011, 01:05:21 PM
Well, as a matter of fact I want an excel body for my custom, and I've been looking for a four string excel for some time now but they are still so new they're hard to aquire used; probably because whenever one becomes available you take it first ;-)
Title: "Mean" sound
Post by: tmoney61092 on August 02, 2011, 01:37:50 PM
perfect timing!
 
http://cgi.ebay.com/2002-Alembic-Excel-4-String-Bass-Guitar-/180704928935?pt=Guitar&hash=item2a12da64a7 (http://cgi.ebay.com/2002-Alembic-Excel-4-String-Bass-Guitar-/180704928935?pt=Guitar&hash=item2a12da64a7)
 
~Taylor
Title: "Mean" sound
Post by: rami on August 02, 2011, 04:43:35 PM
Somebody buy it already!!! At $1200, it's a steal.
 
There's no other Bass that's more worthy of every penny. It has the deepest, punchiest, MOST powerful and GROWLIEST tone.  
 
 
Title: "Mean" sound
Post by: pinbacking on August 02, 2011, 04:56:57 PM
Trying to buy it now!  haha
Title: "Mean" sound
Post by: sonicus on August 02, 2011, 08:36:50 PM
My single pickup Distillate is quite swell as well ! I took it to the 2011 Northern California Alembic Gathering and split the mono signal and processed it as Stereo into my SF-2  and F-2B preamp . The results were favorable as I was told by various individuals.  I think that single pickup Alembics shine like no other single pickup Bass could ever wish to !    CYCLOPS POWER !
 lol ______
Title: "Mean" sound
Post by: elwoodblue on August 03, 2011, 10:03:54 AM
Wow, what a beautiful Excel !!
Did you buy it pinbacking?  
 
That top must look 3 feet deep in person : )
 
cheers
Title: "Mean" sound
Post by: sonicus on August 03, 2011, 10:09:32 AM
Yes , Congratulations !
Title: "Mean" sound
Post by: pinbacking on August 03, 2011, 07:07:19 PM
Haha, ya! Confirmed purchase, now just waiting for the bank to catch up. :-)
Title: "Mean" sound
Post by: rami on August 04, 2011, 01:14:21 PM
Congratulations, she's a beauty!
 
I think that when Alembic first produced the Excel, it was meant as an affordable and entry level Bass.  Little did anyone realize that this simple no-frills Bass would be such a monster.  I absolutely love it.
 
Title: "Mean" sound
Post by: erixxst on August 06, 2011, 07:43:19 PM
I'm still selling this one ! It sure give mean tones!
 
anyone?
 
 
http://club.alembic.com/Images/395/97520.html?1312312158 (http://club.alembic.com/index.php?topic=14206)
Title: "Mean" sound
Post by: briant on August 11, 2011, 02:40:30 PM
I've found Essence basses have a very aggressive/growly tone.  My off the shelf and the custom I had made.  They're both outstanding in that regard.  And every other regard for that matter.  
 
Both are maple necks with walnut streamers and maple bodies.
Title: "Mean" sound
Post by: sonicus on August 11, 2011, 06:56:28 PM
Agreed  , My  little 91 all maple Essence has a big bellow of a bark like a 120LB Bouvier  ! (http://club.alembic.com/Images/402/111093.jpg)
Title: "Mean" sound
Post by: rami on August 11, 2011, 08:56:36 PM
My evaluation of the Essence is that it has a very bright, very clear sound with excellent sustain and rich harmonics. The classic Alembic sound. But... it's NOT an Excel. The Excel sound is LOUDER, fuller and rounder. It's truly a MEAN, GROWLY, BEASTLY sound that just simply unmatched by anything else.
 
Title: "Mean" sound
Post by: pinbacking on August 16, 2011, 07:31:53 PM
My New Excel  
(http://club.alembic.com/Images/402/111462.jpg)
 
(http://club.alembic.com/Images/402/111463.jpg)
   Havent had the chance to play it on my rig yet so I don't know how it sounds big, but playing it in my recording space its really just as beautifully playing as my Spoiler, but with a tighter midrange pop.  I'll describe the sound better when I get to really open it up :-)
Title: "Mean" sound
Post by: billostech on August 17, 2011, 04:33:33 AM
Nicely done Royce. Congrats!
Title: "Mean" sound
Post by: elwoodblue on August 19, 2011, 02:51:48 AM
A beauty,  
I'm here in the NW , hope to see it live and loud sometime ,
 
congrats
Title: "Mean" sound
Post by: briant on August 19, 2011, 10:16:03 AM
Yeah totally.  NW gathering?
Title: "Mean" sound
Post by: eligilam on August 19, 2011, 12:37:39 PM
So, what's the verdict on that infamous Excel growl?  If I were a betting man, I'd guess that one sounds pretty darn mean...
Title: "Mean" sound
Post by: pinbacking on August 23, 2011, 07:10:56 PM
Well, after playing it on my amp, Ampeg SVT-3 with a SVT 6x10 HLF, I can say that it sounds great!  As for mean, weeell, I guess I might have different thoughts on mean.  I have a new set of Dean Markley Blue Steels on the bass and what I would describe the sound as is ROUND, or FULL, with a sort of fretless stretch.  The sound takes up a lot of space, and is naturally warm and bassy.  
 
Like, my spoiler is more articulate sounding, because the neck picks up a thump sound, and the bridge picks up a twang sound, and then puts them together and it seems like there's more tone in the note, whereas I can't hear myself as well playing the excel because it's fatter, and it fills the room more.  I like it, its just really different for me.  All of my basses have 2 PU's and I've never been much of a stingray guy.  Perhaps I just need to find my place with it, when I wail on it it gives me great grit, nice and middy and mean, just like I want, but when I start playing with my fingers it becomes very warm despite that I have a pretty heavy right hand on notes, my other basses don't change tone nearly as dramatically between playing styles.  I like it, I think I might add a tone filter to it like I did to a prior Epic, which is a sweet addition.  
 
 I've started recording a song with it and it really shines with a pick nicely, I usually dont play with one but it sounds GREAT with a pick  
 
One thing I really like is looking at the fretboard when I play and you see the pau ferro and all the beauty in the wood as you're playing, ebony is awesome but its just one color ;-)
 
So, AwEsOmE! I have to play with it more :-)
Title: "Mean" sound
Post by: rami on August 25, 2011, 09:14:26 AM
Congratulations Royce,
 
It is THE meanest, growliest Alembic out there.
I find that due to wide aperture Fat Boy PU that it  also captures great Harmonics - Portait of Tracy - No problem!!!
 
Many years of enjoyment,
 
Rami