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Alembic products => Alembic Basses & Guitars => Topic started by: echo008 on September 10, 2014, 09:17:01 AM
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has anyone had any experience with these cabs?
http://www.soundscaperproductions.com/index.html (http://www.soundscaperproductions.com/index.html)
Look like a nice alternative to Hard Truckers, I emailed to see about a 112 for bass with a Tone Tubby...
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Well, would you look what arrived at my office 1 hour ago... An SSP Quarter! I'm a guitar player, and this is loaded with a heavy Beyma Liberty 8 (basically a new JBL E120).
Tracy is a stand-up guy, very good to work with, and the screwless construction is really top notch.
No kidding, I just unpacked this cab!!!
(http://club.alembic.com/Images/393/197866.jpg)
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Nice!
That looks sweet. Very manageable in size
Do you know the weight?
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Not totally sure, but mine is very heavy, because the Beyma alone is almost 20 pounds! But damn if it doesn't ring like a bell...
I would estimate 35-38 pounds all together.
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Well, go Johnny, go, go, go! I really like these. I have been meaning to make a pair of boxes to replace the old JBL 18 PA crap I 'drilled out' and strutted up for my 21 P. Audio's. Work kept getting into the way and then health went south. I am seriously considering contacting SSP to finish off 'my legacy,' which will be part of my inheritance to some young player after I split. These look well built enough to go with them. Hmmm . . . Women tend to have a weird need to 'nest,' while old men tend to have a weirder need to finish stuff off, even if they will not use it themselves. Can't hurt to e-mail the guy. I think they would look great in the living room of my one bedroom section 8 apartment I will end up in sooner or later - Am I serious?!
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35-40 lbs seems about normal for a 112 bass cab, my aggie is around 40lbs, my Markbass 112 is around 30lbs which is super light, so that doesn't strike me as being too heavy. Very interested to see what he says.
HT can make me a 112 unloaded for around 1k. I would love to go ahead with it, but that is expensive.
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Just a point of possible interest - That Beyma speaker weighs 22 pounds, and has a magnet assembly weight of 18.92 pounds - almost 20 pounds. So the speaker does outweigh the box. 102 dB efficiency - I like it! OK, shutting up.
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Yes the Beyma is heavy... AND awesome!
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Here's a picture of the integrated handle, located on the top.
(http://club.alembic.com/Images/393/197937.jpg)
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And here's the back:
(http://club.alembic.com/Images/393/197940.jpg)
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Hot d*mn, that shore is purdy!
...must go into G.A.S. containment mode soon...
Question: is it an open-back design, or is there a panel that covers the opening?
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Agreed, fine finished wood is always appealing.
Thanks for the pic of the back side.
I'm with David - is there a back panel?
An open back side almost seems counter intuitive - at least to an audio simpleton like me. . .
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OK, that looks like solid construction, but as always the $64,000 question. How do they sound? I know enough that a cab is both speaker and how the cab is designed.
My hope is they sound great! I'm thinking of adding another 112 to my Mesa Walkabout using the 112 extension companion cab. Mesa is expensive
Please let us know the sonic vibe these guys bring
Pete
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There is no back cover (but there is a front cover, secured by corner magnets).
The cab is only part of the equation - but the RIG sounds fantastic!
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another 64k question~
what are the interior dimensions of the cab? From that shot of the back, it looks like two sets of Top/Bottom/Sides... one within the other....
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I don't have an answer for you right now, but Tracy details his cabinet construction with schematics on his site. I can measure the cab for you on Monday.
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Double post.
(Message edited by cje on September 12, 2014)
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This is a guitar cabinet, so I would imagine that Tracy's bass cabinets are either sealed or ported. No open back.
I'd be curious about a sealed 15 for use with a K140, but I'm a little leery of the size and weight needed get the goods.
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Hello Edwin , How are you ?
I have various incarnations of infinite baffle enclosures of this type varying from the Alembic A-15 , the Bag End design and actual cabinets from the Grateful Dead Wall of Sound .
The Bag End is the smallest and least heavy , the Alembic A-15 next and the Wall of Sound enclosure is VERY heavy and massively large . I remember have posting all of this somewhere in a thread on this site before. I even did a shoot out test with a frequency generator an RTA and a power handling test between a JBL K140 and a GAUSS 4580! . As I recall you and I both commented on that thread .
Wolf
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simple and elegant
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Hi Wolf!
One of these years, I'm just going to have to come on out with my bass and we can fire them all up!
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Mike,
I know I owe you interior measurements, but to answer your question, it is not a box-within-a-box design. Think of it as a lip on the back, as if there was a back panel with a giant rectangular hole cut out, leaving just the edges.
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Thanks CJ, I think what threw me off is the recess for the natural wood handle. I didn't realize that it was just a single one on the top of the cab. From the shot of the back, I was looking at the side panels trying to figure out how Tracy made that work.... My bad....
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CJ:
So now that you've had some time with the SSP, how do you like it? Do you know the unloaded weight? I'm thinking about picking up a couple of 1x12s and selling my two 2x12 Ear Candy cabs to make my stereo rig a little more manageable - then I might actually use it!
Thanks, Bill, tgo
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Bill,
It is a fantastic cabinet. It is very solid - no rattle, shaking, swaying, creaking, etc... Just confidently projects what the speaker is doing with that classic familiar design.
I'm quite happy with my preamp/amp/cab/speaker situation at the moment.
I don't know the exact weight, but I can tell you the shipping weight of an unloaded SSP Quarter is 18 lbs., so the cabinet is probably in the 16.5 - 17 lb. range.
Of course, with the mammoth Beyma Liberty 8 I have front loaded, it puts it on par with my Groove Tubes Soul-O 45 combo, but with a completely different tone.
The one thing about having the Beyma in the cabinet is that it does make it somewhat front-heavy, and it would not be a good idea to have the cabinet angled on an amp stand. Instead, place it solidly on something that won't tip forward (I use my effects rack, which is a 10-space Kriz Kraft).
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Nice workmanship on the tongue and groove joints and the ply is very substantial..I think I counted ten layers!.
Is there a protective grill for the front, there would always be some idiot accidentally kicking the driver.
I have built a few cabinets but just gone for the glue & screw jointing and then vinyl covering. These cabs are really in the 'furniture league@
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There is a choice between a protective wood cover or cloth grill. Both attach with magnets in the four corners. I chose the wood cover for protection during transportation.
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I bet Norm Abram from 'The New Yankee Workshop' could build some really class cabinets!.
I always like it when he says
I hope you enjoy building this project as much as I did
Yeah of course I will Norm...as soon as I buy $30,000 worth of tools! Great craftsman though!