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Title: Alembic failures - are there any??
Post by: terryc on April 15, 2014, 11:16:36 AM
Okay last night the LED's in my MK stopped working, a bit of simple diagnostics showed the switch had failed, 5 minutes later with the soldering iron and a mini toggle I had in my spares drawer fixed it all.
The question to all of you, what is the Achilles Heel of any Alembic bass or guitar,(God Forbid!!!) what is the most common electronic component to fail over time or what part of the body/hardware does the same. I bet some of the answers will be interesting, some even from Mica.
I await in anticipation
Title: Alembic failures - are there any??
Post by: sonicus on April 15, 2014, 11:48:47 AM
HI Terry,        
              it is good to read of your fast and successful diagnosis and repair talents .    In my experience it is electromechanical mechanisms  and switches  and the such that show failures more then less often. I find that to be expected and logical . This statement applies to all Audio Desks/mixers / Tape recorders/ Audio processing / and switches & pots, attenuators ,  found in musical instruments  and studio and live musical apparatus.  
   
IN short ; if it moves and grooves, sooner or later you must remove ___+LOL _!
 
Wolf ___
Title: Alembic failures - are there any??
Post by: jazzyvee on April 15, 2014, 12:06:44 PM
Terry I thought your LEDs we're put in by Simms not alembic.  
I had the lever on my standby switch break but that was my fault using a right angled jack and not adjusting it before plonking it on my guitar stand.  
 
Jazzyvee
Title: Alembic failures - are there any??
Post by: growlypants on April 15, 2014, 12:23:41 PM
Excellent synopsis, sonicus!!  (If it moves and grooves...)  I have an '09 MK5, and my LED switch sometimes needs to be jiggled a bit to work right, so you're not alone, Jazzyvee!
Title: Alembic failures - are there any??
Post by: JimmyJ on April 15, 2014, 02:19:45 PM
I've replaced p/u selector switches.  I literally spin that after every song so it's not surprising that it would wear out after years.
 
I've also replaced several of my Schaller tuning pegs.  Same story, I change strings a lot and they get a good workout.
 
And one pickup stopped transmitting a few years ago which I imagine is a rare problem.
 
Alembic gear is built as robustly as can be.  Made to be rolled on and off the truck and work reliably every night.  That said, when I have my trunk on the road I carry spare everything, starting with a 2nd complete bass.  Plus a small case with cables, connectors, switches, preamp board, and even a spare set of pickups and wiring harness.
 
Even though the active circuitry of these instruments could be considered complicated compared to a passive axe, I've only had one preamp card fail in almost 40 years (Jeez!) of use.  Glad I had the spare card that moment!  I can tell the boring story if you want...
 
Curious to hear from Mica about what the most common repair is.
 
The move + groove = remove formula is great, and right on the money!
 
Jimmy J
Title: Alembic failures - are there any??
Post by: sonicus on April 15, 2014, 03:34:11 PM
Thanks  guys for the thumbs up on the   moves + grooves = remove .
   
     Jimmy J , none of your stories have been boring , it seems reasonable that your spare card story would be interesting ___.
 
Wolf __
Title: Alembic failures - are there any??
Post by: mica on April 15, 2014, 03:35:33 PM
ICs are the most commonly replaced electronic part. These are socketed on all but the earliest instruments, so the repair is both cheap and easy. Probably the pickup selector switch is after that.  
 
Then the 5-pin cables in general - but that's usually due to poor use habits. Not everyone is kind to the wire and uses the over-under looping method. I cringe when I see the techs at big name shows coiling cables over their elbows then cinching them up tight around the middle. The agony!
 
It's no surprise, and I think I've said this before but pegheads are the most vulnerable thing physically, as they are the smallest part of the instrument and bear all the tension of the strings. Since we know they will eventually break here (maybe not in our lifetimes, but someday something bad is bound to happen) they are made to be fairly easy and inexpensive to repair. For instance, now it's typically a $75 repair and though not invisible, it's strong and functional.  
 
I think especially with the long scale large body basses, they are more prone to damage of the peghead simply because they are hanging out longer than many players expect.
Title: Alembic failures - are there any??
Post by: pauldo on April 15, 2014, 07:34:32 PM
Pick up selector switch on my Distillate.
 
On my 3rd one.  
 
Switch one and two were broken by my own robust carelessness.
Title: Alembic failures - are there any??
Post by: gtrguy on April 15, 2014, 09:29:30 PM
Clarostat pot detents, if someone reefs on them.
Title: Alembic failures - are there any??
Post by: hammer on April 15, 2014, 09:37:01 PM
LED switch on both of my Signatures.  Still work... but have to wiggle them a bit.
 
And Pauldo, you have a way with language.  I love your term, robust carelessness.
Title: Alembic failures - are there any??
Post by: slawie on April 15, 2014, 11:05:55 PM
I have learnt that the neck pick up Q switch is not robust enough for drunk women to stand on.
 
It happened at a gig where there was no stage and we played just at the back of the dance floor.
 
My next trip to the states will be with my bass in hand for a full refurb by the mother ship.
 
slawie
Title: Alembic failures - are there any??
Post by: bsee on April 15, 2014, 11:23:16 PM
I have one bad mini-toggle that rocks in a direction it isn't supposed to, but still works correctly. I also still have something going on with the Excel that remains undiagnosed. Prior to that no issues at all in 20 years of playing various Alembics. Going to have to rip the guts out and ship them to Santa Rosa one of these days.
Title: Alembic failures - are there any??
Post by: terryc on April 16, 2014, 01:18:28 AM
Jazzyvee..yes they were installed by Martin Sims, just the other night I was about to noodle and no sound, thought it was the battery, no sound then I tried the LED's and they didn't come on..so after a little probing with a wire and battery(by-passing the switch) and they came on. Problem solved.  
Good to see such varied answers and obviously Sonicus's rule applies here.. I remember when I was an apprentice mechanic and old George(well he looked old to me as I was only 16!) said 'If it moves and heats up..it will wear out!' Which is just about everything really! Nice to see Mica chip in as well.
Title: Alembic failures - are there any??
Post by: jazzyvee on April 16, 2014, 04:25:47 AM
Just as mica mentions here is a broken headstock.Not for the faint  hearted.
http://alembic.com/club/messages/393/114126.html?1317706724 (http://alembic.com/club/messages/393/114126.html?1317706724 target=_top)
 
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/3583/sam0046g.jpg (http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/3583/sam0046g.jpg)
 
http://alembic.com/club/messages/393/28504.html
 
Jazzyvee
Title: Alembic failures - are there any??
Post by: terryc on April 16, 2014, 10:33:14 AM
Yep..pretty horrific but they can repair anything at Alembic
Title: Alembic failures - are there any??
Post by: hankster on April 16, 2014, 06:59:58 PM
Locking screw on bridge pickup loosens over time and pickup suddenly starts rattling around.  Happened once in nine years.  I think of it as character.
 
R
Title: Alembic failures - are there any??
Post by: pace on April 19, 2014, 10:32:49 AM
I went to Activate a fender jazz bass last week, smelled burning when I plugged it in (electronics seemed to work great outside of bass), and smoke poured out of the input jack when I unplugged it!!!  
 
Looks like a cap burnt on the filter board, so the whole set is off to Santa Rosa.... Looking forward to the diagnosis!!!!
Title: Alembic failures - are there any??
Post by: elwoodblue on April 19, 2014, 11:23:28 AM
You let out the magic smoke !
I hate it when that happens.
That reminds me of putting a 9 volt in the same pocket as my keys...DON'T DO THAT ;)
 
The center detent has gone smooth an a couple of my activator pots, and there's a nice beeep as it goes from 10 to 1.
Title: Alembic failures - are there any??
Post by: terryc on April 20, 2014, 10:08:03 AM
elwoodblue..that brings back memories about the 9V in the pocket with loose change..got this lovely warm feeling and there wasn't a woman in sight! LOL
Title: Alembic failures - are there any??
Post by: terryc on April 20, 2014, 10:08:17 AM
elwoodblue..that brings back memories about the 9V in the pocket with loose change..got this lovely warm feeling and there wasn't a woman in sight! LOL
Title: Alembic failures - are there any??
Post by: smokin_dave on April 20, 2014, 01:51:20 PM
I've given this a lot of thought as to whether to post my experience with my bass or not but the fine folks at Alembic treated me and the problems with my bass so well I guess it must be told.
 
In the summer of 03' I pulled the trigger on the purchase of my Purpleheart Rogue 5 from Bass Central and the good Beaver Felton and waited anxiously for it's arrival.
 
UPS arrives with my new purchase in good shape and I excitedly uncrated the my new treasure pulled it out of the case looked it over plucked the strings and so far so good.
 
Now it's time to run it through the amp.Fire up my practice rig plug the new bass in and....nothing.Well maybe a lot of pops and static but nothing as I expected to hear.Checked the battery but it was good so an immediate phone call to the Mothership was in order.
 
It was determined that my bass was to be overnighted back to Alembic,repaired and overnighted back to me where finally I played the most incredible sounding playing bass I've ever owned and thought to myself that those folks at the Mothership,when problems beyond my control arose,really treated me right.
 
OK.Let's fast forward here about 1 and a half years later to the truss rod predicament.
 
I was doing a setup on my bass,adjusting the truss rod when CRACK.....what the hell was that?The truss rod on the bass side of the neck had snapped and with every turn of the rod nut,the rod itself was working it's way out of the neck.
Another panicked call to Alembic results in my bass being returned for repairs and to my surprise they sent me a loaner Orion 5 to use while I was on a particular busy playing season.Astounding.I couldn't think of another company that would do that for a customer and that is why I say to everyone that Alembic is the greatest instrument manufacturer in the world.
 
Also I found out later that I own the only bass they produced that had a truss rod break.
 
Flash forward a few weeks later when my Purpleheart fiver is now returned to me to discover that the quick tone and Q switches were inoperable and another call to the Mothership was in order which resulted in another overnight shipment of a new replacement electronics set to swap out.
 
Once again,what other instrument company out there is going to do all of that for a customer?
 
I pledge my allegiance to the BEST instrument manufacturer in the world....ALEMBIC.
Title: Alembic failures - are there any??
Post by: lyla53 on April 21, 2014, 09:18:20 AM
HUGE RECURRING PROBLEM = There are never any hats available in the online store.
Title: Alembic failures - are there any??
Post by: dannobasso on April 21, 2014, 10:59:11 AM
Led switches, PU switches on my Skylark, 2 basses with one note buzzes. Shrinkage of fretboards exposing frets on every Alembic I own and have owned. About 25 in all.
Title: Alembic failures - are there any??
Post by: bsee on April 22, 2014, 01:29:52 PM
That's true, Danno - the frets, and often the plies of the neck will shrink/expand differently and you can feel slight ridges at the glue joints. Not really a problem for me, but I could see how they might bother someone buying new at the top of the market.
Title: Alembic failures - are there any??
Post by: jzstephan on April 26, 2014, 03:02:39 AM
http://www.premierguitar.com/articles/20662-guitar-shop-101-how-to-file-sharp-fret-ends
Title: Alembic failures - are there any??
Post by: alemboid on May 21, 2014, 04:13:12 PM
Fragile output jack! They are made with a plastic body and if you use a straight plug, knock it the wrong way and you are SOL. They should be steel. I was sent a replacement by Mica and it was incredible- all steel. Just be careful with Alembic output jacks!!!
Title: Alembic failures - are there any??
Post by: blazer on December 23, 2014, 05:29:50 PM
Well we at Knooren Handcrafted have seen our share of Alembics needing new frets since their owners will play them to death.
 
It takes careful planning and a steady hand to get those old frets out since Ebony can chip like a nightmare.