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Title: Inlay has fallen out of Spoiler
Post by: alembic83 on January 08, 2006, 04:28:54 AM
Hello, I hope this isn't too lame of a question, but one of the inlays (3rd fret) has fallen out of place on my Spoiler. I could stick any old glue in there and it'd probably be fine but I just wanted to get some expert advice. I don't want to take any chances! Thanks,
Jason
Title: Inlay has fallen out of Spoiler
Post by: keavin on January 08, 2006, 05:10:40 AM
 
 
(Message edited by keavin on January 08, 2006)
Title: Inlay has fallen out of Spoiler
Post by: serialnumber12 on January 08, 2006, 05:17:31 AM
Crazy Glue.
Title: Inlay has fallen out of Spoiler
Post by: kungfusheriff on January 08, 2006, 10:34:53 AM
Yep -- worked fine when the same thing happened to me.
Title: Inlay has fallen out of Spoiler
Post by: jazzyvee on January 09, 2006, 10:42:16 AM
Forgive my Ignorance. I've not seen crazy glue at all here in the UK. But over the years I've heard it used for so many things. Even Gil Scott Heron mentions it in his song B -Movie.I
 
it must be some amazing potion.
Jazzyvee
Title: Inlay has fallen out of Spoiler
Post by: keith_h on January 09, 2006, 12:52:51 PM
Jazzyvee,
Crazy Glue is a brand name it is also known as Super Glue. Chemically/generically it is called Cyanoacrylate Glue. It usually comes in a small tube and is a very thin liquid. It will glue just about anything together including your fingers.  
 
Keith
Title: Inlay has fallen out of Spoiler
Post by: jacko on January 10, 2006, 02:06:03 AM
And it will also stick fingers to eyelids resulting in a trip to A&E ;-(
 
Graeme
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Post by: mpisanek on January 10, 2006, 02:16:42 AM
Jazzy:
 
Crazy Glue can eventually come un-stuck from exposure to moisture over a period of time.  I can attest that it works wonderfully in the desert, but it might not be as long lived here in this rather constant high humidity!  I think that is why you might not see it over here very often.
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Post by: bracheen on January 10, 2006, 03:15:52 AM
I've found that it doesn't work well on non-porous surfaces.
 
Sam
Title: Inlay has fallen out of Spoiler
Post by: keith_h on January 10, 2006, 03:39:43 AM
I think what made Crazy/Super glue so well known were the television commercials. They often showed a man hanging from a hard hat that had been glued to a steel beam. I also remember them doing the same thing with a car suspended from two glued steel blocks.
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Post by: dfung60 on January 10, 2006, 01:19:50 PM
I've found that CA glues (cyanoacrylate) are really strong for bonds that have a lot of tight-fitting surface area (like broken plastic if there's no deformation) and that they're kind of fragile bonds if there's any gaps at all (which include porous surfaces like wood).  Things are tight until there's another impact and the bond fails all at once.  CA glues aren't themselves heat sensitive, but if the things that they're gluing expand differently, you'll fracture the bond again really quickly.
 
I think CA glue is pretty common for inlay work these days because it cures quickly (so you can work fast) and it dries clear and easy to sand.  
 
There are different types of CA glue including thicker compositions that will fill gaps.  That would probably be more appropriate for an oval inlay where you dont' have to bond it all the way up to the fingerboard.
 
David Fung
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Post by: Bradley Young on January 13, 2006, 10:49:05 PM
superglue also works in a pinch for cuts (think battlefield remedy).  It was invented for this purpose (well, that's what I heard, apocryphally).
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Post by: crgaston on January 14, 2006, 08:55:27 AM
Superglue is my first choice for cuts, and it helps to wash it out with hydrogen peroxide or alcohol first to reduce infection. I have used it on slices on both left and right fingertips acquired while setting up the PA before gigs and it enabled me to play with no problems. It is actually marketed for this purpose as Liquid Bandaid or something, but it's more expensive with those words on the label.  
 
It also works well at preventing/delaying blisters on your hands.  I figured this out at a 2-day combat handgun class where we fired upwards of a thousand rounds and the checkering on my grip was wearing raw spots on my fingers.  
 
Is this thread oficially hijacked, or is this a natural evolution?  :-)
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Post by: dadabass2001 on January 14, 2006, 08:58:43 AM
All this talk of evolution is just monkey business.
 
 
John Scopes
Title: Inlay has fallen out of Spoiler
Post by: Bradley Young on January 14, 2006, 12:24:29 PM
I think it's been intelligently designed away from its purpose.
 
Brad