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Alembic products => Alembic Basses & Guitars => Topic started by: Bassman8416 on May 18, 2015, 09:05:07 PM

Title: Distillate v Spoiler
Post by: Bassman8416 on May 18, 2015, 09:05:07 PM
I recently owned a Spoiler that i regretfully sold. I have an opportunity to purchase a Distillate that's in very good condition., 32 scale. What is the difference between the two. Electronics?
Title: Distillate v Spoiler
Post by: mica on May 18, 2015, 09:35:53 PM
Very similar electronics, build on the same preamp. Distillate adds a bass and treble cut/flat/boost switch that in the flat position will behave exactly like a Spoiler.  
 
The Distillate body shape is a little different, with a flattened bottom, but a similar length upper horn. Both are standard 32 medium scale. Unless you had a solid Koa Spoiler, they should have more in common than not.
Title: Distillate v Spoiler
Post by: edwardofhuncote on May 18, 2015, 09:37:20 PM
Very similar electronics. In addition to standard Spoiler package, Distillate has boost/flat/cut switches for bass and treble.  
 
Distillate: http://club.alembic.com/Images/16271/24726.html?1138816475 (http://club.alembic.com/index.php?topic=232)  
 
Spoiler: http://club.alembic.com/Images/16271/16327.html?1107554623
 
Someone on this board once pointed out to me, Distillate is very close to modern-day East-Meets-West electronics.  
 
Good luck... I know you hated to let that Spoiler go. Hope this one works out.
Title: Distillate v Spoiler
Post by: edwardofhuncote on May 18, 2015, 09:47:45 PM
Mica is 2 minutes quicker, and far better sourced... =)
Title: Distillate v Spoiler
Post by: hammer on May 19, 2015, 06:17:21 AM
The Distillate is a great bass and my introduction to Alembic. There appear to be both a standard Distillate body as well as more than a few that were made with longer upper horns. I know some people have talked about the standard Distillate being a little neck heavy but the body type with the longer upper horn that I had was perfectly balanced for me.
Title: Distillate v Spoiler
Post by: sonicus on May 19, 2015, 06:33:21 AM
I have an 81 Distillate , the older type. She is truly a sweet little Devil with her single pickup and always seems to get compliments where ever she speaks .
Title: Distillate v Spoiler
Post by: gearhed289 on May 19, 2015, 01:07:24 PM
Distillate has some nice, higher end features than the Spoiler - purpleheart neck laminates, brass block under the bridge, crown headstock, and the bass and treble boost/flat/cut switches mentioned. The longer upper horn came in '85 or '86 I believe. I have a beautiful 34'' long scale '86.
Title: Distillate v Spoiler
Post by: gearhed289 on May 19, 2015, 01:16:07 PM
Distillate has some nice, higher end features than the Spoiler - purpleheart neck laminates, brass block under the bridge, crown headstock, and the bass and treble boost/flat/cut switches mentioned. The longer upper horn came in '85 or '86 I believe. I have a beautiful 34'' long scale '86.
Title: Distillate v Spoiler
Post by: Bassman8416 on May 19, 2015, 06:58:38 PM
Here is a pic of the bass I might be buying. Is there a knob missing? Any thoughts on the bass itself?
 
(http://club.alembic.com/Images/393/209523.jpg)
Title: Distillate v Spoiler
Post by: sonicus on May 19, 2015, 07:06:45 PM
Where would there be a knob missing ? Nice Bass!  It  Looks complete externally . Nice find.
Title: Distillate v Spoiler
Post by: mica on May 19, 2015, 07:37:07 PM
No missing knob... looks like volume and filter with a rotary pickup selector on the upper horn. The row of three switches looks normal. This is an early 2-pickup one with an LED (may or may not be hooked up). Nice looker!
 
Probably will need the electronics RF upgraded - it's not as spendy as the Series I/II but it does cost something as these are completely handwired, even the board isn't printed.
Title: Distillate v Spoiler
Post by: Bassman8416 on May 19, 2015, 07:52:26 PM
Thank you so much Sonicus and Mica...I am going to get it.
Title: Distillate v Spoiler
Post by: sonicus on May 19, 2015, 07:55:57 PM
You are very welcome. Congratulations !  
 
 
 Wolf
Title: Distillate v Spoiler
Post by: mica on May 19, 2015, 08:00:44 PM
One thing to note is the truss rod cover is not recessed and there isn't a ton of room between the end of the fingerboard and the bass pickup. That's good - it will have a deeper bass tone for its position, but, some people need more room to play there for their style. Just a heads up there.
Title: Distillate v Spoiler
Post by: Bassman8416 on May 19, 2015, 08:06:06 PM
Good point Mica....I will be using this for a Grateful Dead tribute...using a pic. I can make it happen. Eventually I will get the Series. Oh, as far as the upgrade is that something a really good luthier can do...one that is great with wiring?
Title: Distillate v Spoiler
Post by: mica on May 19, 2015, 08:21:58 PM
No - you need to send the electronics to us. These are too hard to direct a remote operator to do the work. Plus, we test the result in our worst place in the world for guitars so it will even be quiet in Toronto. Sorry, Toronto, but you are awash in RF.
Title: Distillate v Spoiler
Post by: edwardofhuncote on May 20, 2015, 07:13:23 AM
Good Call Craig - Congrats! Love the slab-cut zebrawood top.  
 
The first Alembic experience I ever had was a cocobolo-topped Distillate from about this same time... this nice fella I ran into while on the road had it, and was nice enough to let me check it out. I'd never played anything quite like it before or since... but that was a defining moment. It took many more years before I got one.
 
Again, congratulations.
Title: Distillate v Spoiler
Post by: gearhed289 on May 20, 2015, 10:04:09 AM
For comparison - my long horn. Also note the lack of LED, and re-located pickup selector.
 
(http://club.alembic.com/Images/393/209536.jpg)
Title: Distillate v Spoiler
Post by: mtjam on May 20, 2015, 01:13:22 PM
Nice looking Distillate, Bassman! No knob missing there. It looks very much like my first Alembic (which I traded towards my Series 1), but mine had a jack repair. My Distillate was the one that set me on the Alembic path I have been on ever since trying it out for the first time.
 
If the price is right, you should definitely go for it!
Title: Distillate v Spoiler
Post by: FC Bass on May 20, 2015, 01:31:42 PM
Possibly this one?
 
(http://club.alembic.com/Images/393/209540.jpg)
(pic stolen from a facebook discussion)
 
The standard Distillate also has Purpleheart neck lams, Spoiler neck is 3 piece Maple (+ walnut veneers from the 90's and up)
Title: Distillate v Spoiler
Post by: hammer on May 20, 2015, 03:21:54 PM
Tom:
 
That long-horn looks more than vaguely familiar.  Hope it's been treating you well and wondering if it has led to the same degree of LembicLust in you as it did in me?
Title: Distillate v Spoiler
Post by: mtjam on May 20, 2015, 03:39:36 PM
Here's the Distillate that began my Alembic journey:
 
http://club.alembic.com/Images/395/113648.html?1319066783 (http://club.alembic.com/index.php?topic=14212)
Title: Distillate v Spoiler
Post by: gearhed289 on May 21, 2015, 08:08:41 AM
Brian - it's been great, and yes, addictive! I still prefer the playability and look of my main Ric, but the TONE of the Distillate is ridiculous! It's the sound I hear in my head, effortlessly. It's got all the qualities I like from my Rics and Gibsons, but more refined and controllable. I've been THIS CLOSE to calling Mica about some Alembic pickups and electronics for the Ric...
Title: Distillate v Spoiler
Post by: pauldo on May 21, 2015, 08:13:16 AM
Can't say anything bad about a Distillate.
It was 'my first' also.
http://club.alembic.com/Images/411/41664.html?1329696239 (http://club.alembic.com/index.php?topic=9082)
Title: Distillate v Spoiler
Post by: flpete1uw on May 23, 2015, 07:40:09 AM
Huge fan of my Distillate, add an SF-2 and she really pops!
So yes you can't go wrong. IMHO ;)  
Pete
Title: Distillate v Spoiler
Post by: hammer on May 23, 2015, 06:39:49 PM
Craig.
 
Did you end up purchasing that Distillate? If it was the one listed in Craigslist in Central Valley NY. you got a VERY Nice deal
Title: Distillate v Spoiler
Post by: Bassman8416 on June 16, 2015, 11:14:57 AM
Update folks, I had to hold off buying this due to financial problems. So I sold a Modulus Q6 and now have the funds...problem is the seller just bumped up the the price $200. He wants $1900, still seems like a solid deal....any thoughts? Also regarding electronics, Mica was mentioning an upgrade in which I would send the electronics in themselves? So I wouldn't have to send the bass? Just wondering how long of a turn around are we looking at and how much would it cost?
thank you all so much