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Alembic products => Alembic Basses & Guitars => Topic started by: bumhucker on March 13, 2006, 06:06:28 PM

Title: Spoiler questions
Post by: bumhucker on March 13, 2006, 06:06:28 PM
I am considering getting a spoiler-
has anyone ever owned a lighter weight spoiler-under 9 lbs?
 
are they comfortable?  they don't normally have contours right?
 
sorry for all the questions!  
 
i have seen quite a few used spoilers around on the net-i could actually afford one of those soon-a custom shrot scale essence is a ways off in my future.  32 scale might be a good compromise...
Title: Spoiler questions
Post by: pas on March 14, 2006, 05:15:47 AM
I've been playing a spoiler since '85 - bubinga top.  Not too heavy for me & perfectly balanced.  Medium scale really makes playing in 1st postion quite comfortable.  I also had one with a cocobolo top & crown headstock.  It was somewhat heavier, due to the cocobolo, but still balanced well.  Having a wide strap will help distribute the weight better. Highly recommended.
Title: Spoiler questions
Post by: ed_r on March 14, 2006, 03:41:22 PM
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(Message edited by ed_r on March 14, 2006)
Title: Spoiler questions
Post by: bumhucker on March 15, 2006, 05:59:03 AM
is it a pain to slap on the spoiler cuz the neck pickup is so close?  
it seems like there might be just enough room...
Title: Spoiler questions
Post by: adriaan on March 15, 2006, 06:28:41 AM
Depends how fast and furious you get, I suppose.
 
The earliest Spoilers had the neck pickup really close to the end of the fretboard. On my 1988, the gap is already wider, and it's plenty of space for what I do slap-wise. Newer Spoilers seem to have the neck pickup even further away, perhaps the same distance as on Epics and Orions - which seems to be roughly twice the distance.
Title: Spoiler questions
Post by: pas on March 15, 2006, 08:43:11 AM
I rarely slap, so it's not much of a concern for me.  That being said, I prefer the location of the neck pick-up being flush up against the truss rod cover, as it is on my '85 spoiler.  My '99 spoiler, which was custom built, gave me a shock when I opened the case & saw it the first time.  The neck pick-up was moved further back towards the bridge.  I wish I had known they were going to do that.  Keep in mind, this was before we had the Alembic Club & an FTC section.  I didn't like the new pick up placement from a feel, tone or aesthetic standpoint.  
 
In addition, the neck profile on the 2 spoilers were different.  The 85 has a little thicker & has been the picture of stability - I've NEVER had to tweak it.  The 99 - which had purpleheart laminates - was thinner, and although the purpleheart is supposed to provide more rigidity to the neck, I had to tweak it repeatedly.
 
Next time I order a custom, I'll have every nuance accounted for.
Title: Spoiler questions
Post by: bumhucker on March 15, 2006, 09:13:01 AM
cool-thanks for the info.  i'll just look for an 89 or newer.  i'm not a huge slapper but sometimes i have to whip it out.  that's good to know about the neck profile too.
Title: Spoiler questions
Post by: adriaan on March 15, 2006, 10:56:30 PM
Just to give you an impression of the distance you should find on a late 1980s Spoiler:
(http://club.alembic.com/Images/393/26327.jpg)
Title: Spoiler questions
Post by: pas on March 16, 2006, 05:09:26 AM
The way the neck pick up is flush up against the truss rod cover - definitely my preference.  
 
Contrast that with my '99 spoiler:
 
http://club.alembic.com/Images/411/3653.html?1141066721 (http://club.alembic.com/index.php?topic=8920)
Title: Spoiler questions
Post by: adriaan on March 16, 2006, 05:44:58 AM
Agreed Paul, the neck pickup on your 99 is way out there - might sound fine, but the looks ...  
 
Check out this set-neck baby blue Spoiler in FTC -http://club.alembic.com/Images/631/19065.html?1140635371 (http://club.alembic.com/index.php?topic=7734) - the neck pickup is in the sweet spot, and somehow it looks more in balance.
 
By the way, the earliest Spoilers had a much narrower truss rod cover, and the neck pickup was  closer to the end of the fretboard.
Title: Spoiler questions
Post by: bumhucker on March 16, 2006, 01:22:30 PM
cool-thanks for the examples.  i know what to look for now!  there is a koa spoiler on ebay right now but i don't have the $$ yet. dang it.  it's nice one.