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Alembic products => Alembic Basses & Guitars => Topic started by: rockbassist on June 23, 2006, 08:50:27 PM
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I just returned from playing Bike Week in Laconia, NH. We did 9 shows in 10 days. Even though I have had my Epic for about 1 year, this was the first opportunity I had to play it live as I have been working on various recording projects. I have never received so many compliments on my playing, tone and overall sound. The Epic is so clear that I had to concentrate exra hard on my playing because if I didn't mistakes would be noticeable. I am running a 97 Epic 5 string through a Gallien Krueger 1001RB-II with GK 410RBH and 115RBH cabs. I had compliments from bass players, guitarists, drummers and even the general public. I have also been asked to do Bike Week in Sturgis, SD with Lynyrd Skynyrd, Blue Oyster Cult, Alice Cooper, Ted Nugent, Alice in Chains, Kid Rock, David Lee Roth and others. My keyboard player is a graduate of Berklee College of music and he was stunned at how good my tone was. Thank you Alembic for making me sound better than I actually am.
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Cool!
9 shows in 10 days sounds like fun!
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RB,
Where were you playing? I was up there all week. Lotsa great bands and a heck of a lot of fun!!!!
This is the first time in 9 years I didn't have a gig up there.
Peace,
Dino
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I live in NH ... what's your band's name? Did you see the kid band Mindwalk play? The guitarist I work with's son is the drummer ... 11 years old and they play covers from Rush and UK and progressive rock originals. Awesomely talented kids. I believe they opened up for Pink Void, the Pink Floyd tribute band.
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Sounds cool. It's always nice to play an instrument that lets them actually hear what you're doing!
John
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Kevin,
Good deal! Hope to see you in Sturgis. Do you ride?
Cheers,
Kevin
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I'll be in Sturgis the first weekend. Let me know if ya'll are playing.
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I always find it interesting that you could show up with just about any bass or amp and the band never looks up. But every time I play with someone new who's never heard an ALEMBIC, they ALWAYS notice the difference in tone, then the axe.
And that also happened to me as well: I had to tighten up some on technique as I could now hear a LOT more than before. I sometimes practice with the Q in and the filter wide open: THAT surely tells me how much homework I need to be working on!
When I get a motor, I'm sure gonna have to figure where I can go for a rally, etc., as I just look stupid in black leather vests and Frye boots. And I'm not old enough for Aspencade!
J o e y
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Joey, the rallies are cool but the rides are the best part. And my prefered ensemble for riding, blue jeans and a t-shirt but got to have me boots. Everybody looks good in denim!
And the dew rag is a don't.
The only negative thing I can find about riding my Harley is the saddle bag is not big enough for my BASS.
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Olie,
That's why you need to get yourself a sidecar.
Joey, there are two types of bikers....
Ones that own dressers and ones that will eventually.
I had a choice between a Series and this. I couldn't resist......
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Nice bike dean. Allow me to show mine off a little. The Raod King is mine and the Springer is my wife's.
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Damn man.....
Very cool. We need to start a Harley/Alembic thread now. Two great American legends.
You've done quite a bit of work to both bikes I can see. I just got mine last year so I'm still tryign to decide which way I'm gonna go. I might just leave it stock and ride it like I stole it
Thanks for the pics Olie!!!!!
Peace,
Dino
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Dino, leaving it stock is cool, BUT!, I will say one thing.........pipes man , pipes. I ride my Harley like I play my Alembic, LOUD & PROUD! (more loud than proud though. pride can be a dangerous thing)
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Ya know I have to say though. All of my previous bikes have had aftermarket (LOUD) pipes up until this one. I really dig the quiteness of stock pipes when my wife and I are riding. Especially on these beautiful New Hampshire back roads in the early morning. This is why I need two bike now. One loud and proud and my quiet dresser.
Ride Safe!!!!
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I hate to do this to Joey, but here goes:
http://adventuresidecar.com/dauntlessdualsport.htm (http://adventuresidecar.com/dauntlessdualsport.htm)
John
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Next thing you know someone will put a Rolls grill ona VW.
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I'm not a rider, I'm typically cursing the crotch rocket jockies that zip on by at 80 in a 35 zone. I know, my bother is one of those hooligans. Glad to see that your tastes are more refined, lol.
I will say that two years at the Superbikes championship (PPIR - now a parking lot) watching this man destroy the competition did elevate my pulse and caused me to briefly entertain two-wheeled moments of fancy. Eric Bostrom, the King of Pike's Peek. Still, there's no room for my bass.
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The Mighty E-Boz ! !
And of course the Hayden Brothers are from Eastern Kentucky not far from Nashville. I love to watch the motorcycle races.
I'm afraid the arms race amongs the GSXRs, Rs, Ninjas, etc., have resulted in motorcycles that are just TOO fast for casual riders. I watch the classifieds in the paper and once or twice a year I always see an ad along these lines: 2006 (fill in your rocketbike here), less than a thousand miles, helmet, armor jacket and gloves, like new $(WAY less than the 6-months ago purchase price). I imagine after using Jesus for his braking marker for the last time, he decided to walk away while he still could . . . and then some people just don't think ALL the time: Would you ride a supercharged (!) Hayabusa with no helmet or license?
A sidecar KLR . . . that's just wrong.
Those are beauts, Olie and Dino. But they're just not me. Though those ads for that silver VTX1800 really stops me in my tracks.
One of these days after I get the KLR out of my system, a GoldWing or an FJR1300.
I can't imagine the 2 lanes through New Hampshire on a 'Glide, must be wonderful, and I like them quiet, too. And we're not alone, Dino: Valentino Rossi runs Termignonis on his MotoGP M1 Yamaha, says the roar disturbs his concentration.
J o e y
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Sorry for the delay in responding. I didn't expect this type of response. The band was The Dan Lawson Band. We did originals and covers. Mostly blues mixed in with classic rock. We played at The Broken Spoke which is on the corner of route 3 and Watson Road just up from Weirs Beach. Some dates were outside on the main stage and others were inside. I was filling in with my old band. Dan Lawson is the guitar player and is very difficult to deal with. He reminded me of why I left the band in the first place. He was so loud that the sound man actually took him out of the mix and he was still louder than everyone else. He also brought in a drummer whom I had never met and constantly criticized the guy on stage. This drummer was very good but didn't have enough time to learn everything. The keyboard player is a good friend of mine and a graduate of Berklee. He thought that drummer and I locked up well despite not having met before the first gig. Dan was so sloppy that at times the keyboard looked at me and asked if we were in the right key. It's kind of weird but Dan received some negative feedback and tried to blame the rest of us. He told people that the drummer, keyboard player and I were not ready and also told several people that he and his manager thought that we sucked. I spoke with his manager and he told me that the Dan never sounded so good and the only comment he had was that the originals sounded better tahn the covers. I received a lot of compliments on my tone and my playing. Several people commented on how much they loved the sound of my Alembic. Overall I had a good time but I'm not sure I want to work this guitarist again. I have been asked to play Sturgis but haven't decided if I want to deal with him again.
As far as the question about whether or not I ride. I have a motorcycle license but haven't ridden in 15 years. I want to get a bike next summer.
Thanks,
Kevin
P.S. Nice bike Olie
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Yes, a sidecar KLR isn't exactly something I think I would enjoy either. KLR by itself is a scream though, especially in the boonies where roads go through streams occasionally. Taking mine to Nova Scotia, Newfoundland and possibly Labrador in 3 weeks and can't wait to leave!
The local Harley dealer has an old military Harley sidecar setup that looks like it would be fun to pilot, although the noise of those things really turns me off (it's official: I am an old fart). For what it's worth, I don't like loud Japanese, English or Italian bikes either (or loud Chevys, etcetera), but then I also live in the serene countryside and enjoy sleeping in when I can (and when the 4-wheelers aren't tearing up my woods). Loud rumbly Alembics suit me just fine though, so feel free to indulge me whenever the muse hits.
Kevin, when you get the bike, take the Motorcycle Safety Foundation's Basic Rider Course. Even if you already ride, there are things you will learn in the course that WILL save your life one day. It's a fun way to spend a weekend, but you need to sign up early or they tend to fill up. Obviously you'll need to keep us all posted when you take the plunge..
I play in a situation with one band that, while different from yours in many ways, is still similar in that it's just rewarding enough to keep me from jumping ship. For now. Tough call, but playing Sturgis might just be enough fun to make up for it. If he truly wasn't happy, he wouldn't want you to play. If he didn't think you made his band sound good, he wouldn't want you to play. Could be worse - he could want to move in with you after dating for 3 months, but I digress... ;)
Take care and have fun!
John
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These guys have nerves of steel to be going around a corner at 100 miles and hour and draggin their knees. They will always have my respect boy. I love going fast but in a straight line and in 1/4 mile increments!
Joey it's probably very similar to some of the beautiful back roads down in TN. Nothing like a nice peaceful Sunday morning ride to clear your head!!!!
RB, I must have driven by the Broken Spoke a million times. Saw the crowd and said ta hell with dat. Sorry to hear about Dan being such a bear to work with. That sucks because that gig should be a ton of fun!!!! I've stepped away from some pretty lucrative gigs for the same reason(s). It's not worth the agravation that you put yourself through.
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Funny how this became a motorcycle forum all of a sudden! ;-) Actually i ride too ... love it! In regard to the Dan band. How the hell did he get such a good gig if the band sucks so much???? I've been playing forever in the Northern MA. southern NH area in what are arguably top notch rock cover bands. Hot vocals, tight musicians and great stage presence. AND we have a decent following! (onefinemess.com) The only offer we got to play the rally was for a Wednesday! Soooo being weekend warriors we passed. Being in the business forever I realize getting good gigs is 1% talent and 99% business connections and politics but give me a break. Playing the whole week with a fill in band and the leader sucks?? Don't get me wrong, i believe you ... but as a gigging New England musician it burns my butt when sub standard bands get the good gigs!
I'm glad you at least got the chance to play at a decent venue with your Alembic. I use a Stanley Clark Standard, A Modulus Quantun 5 string fretless and run through an Ampeg SVTPRO5 head and Ampeg 4X10 bottom and I'm always getting completments from other bass players about my sound. (and technique ... which is much appreciated) I think I'm personally responsible for at least 5 bass players i know of in the NE area buying their 1st Alembics! There's NO advertisment more powerful then a demonstration! :-)
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Well, in the history of our little forum here, I don't think I've chimed in on a motorcycle thread before; but I thought perhaps I might post in response to a couple comments above.
I don't ride bikes. I rode my roommate's bike around town some back in the 70's, but that's it. I also read Zen And The Art Of Motorcycle Maintenance (a wonderful book) back in the 70's and have a great appreciation for the experiential difference in riding through the countryside on a bike as opposed to riding in a car. My dad rode a bike (Goldwing) and he and mom rode in every state in the US including two trips from North Carolina to Alaska (they didn't ride their bike to Hawaii, they rented a bike there).
Here's my comment. I can appreciate one's desire to have a bike that sounds pleasing to their ear. But is there not a point at which the loudness of one's bike infringes on one's respect for one's fellow humans? Here are two examples:
1 - I live in a very quiet neighborhood on a dead end street in what's called a cove, a street running along a creek with high ridges running up both sides and the end. Most of the time the only sounds I and my neighbors hear are the sounds of the natural world we live in; the wind in the trees, the creek, the birds. Every once in a while somebody will ride a really loud bike up our street and the sound is trapped in and bounces around the cove. There doesn't appear to be any point in this unless it's the rider's desire to disturb everyone else.
2 - I live close to the Blue Ridge Parkway. The Parkway is a scenic road that runs through the Western North Carolina mountains. There are lots of hiking trails that have trailheads on the Parkway, and I and many others go hiking on those trails a lot. Hiking on these mountain trails is a spiritual experience, until the sound of a very loud bike, or even several very loud bikes, roaring down the parkway reverberates through the hills. For those of you who cherish the experience of prayer in your church on Sunday morning, consider the effect if while you are deep in prayer, a biker suddenly roars through the sanctuary.
So, while I do understand the joy of riding a bike, and while I do understand the appreciation of the sound of a bike, does it have to be so loud? I suppose it's similar to the desire to play music loudly; but the difference is that we play music in a venue where the other people there want to hear loud music, we don't play where it would disturb others (well that's not entirely accurate, but at least we hope that the promoter has a permit). At what point does one's personal desire to ride around on a loud bike infringe on one's care and consideration for the people they share the planet with?
This of course doesn't apply to all or even most bikes; and of course it additionally does apply to some cars that have been modified to be louder. I've never posted this before because I do not want to post anything that can be taken as being critical of my fellow forum members. And I can certainly see the selfishness of my own position, my own desire for the quiet enjoyment of nature. Perhaps there is some middle ground, some point at which we can respect the rights of others and enjoy our own preferences for quietness or loudness. I apologize if I've offended anyone with these remarks.
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Here here Dave! While I can understand someone with a bike taking steps to tweak the exhaust note, I could never comprehend why a resonable person would want to go out of their way and spend money to make a bike or car just plain louder. Yet many do it. Can you say overcompensation? (The louder the engine is, the bigger something else is?) Personally, I prefer stealthy fast.
Bill, tgo
(Message edited by lbpesq on July 02, 2006)
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Let me start by saying that I don't own a motorcycle, so this response is based on the experience of friends and my own automobile-driving experience.
I believe that part of a rider's desire to have a loud bike is so that other motor vehicles on the road will hear you if they don't see you. I can verify that I have been made aware of bikes around me on freeways by sound as much as by sight.
I feel the same way Dave does when the pleasant peaceful sound of my environment is disturbed. I suppose it's the old machine vs. nature struggle. Having said that, I?m sure there is also a healthy dose of ego that goes along with the loudness ? but no more than you find in a musician with a great rig.
Peace
Tom
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Hey Dave,
Very good points indeed. I for many years had loud pipes on my bikes. One of the main reasons in my case was that I had major motor work done to them. The less restricitve an exhaust system is the more power you can tweak out of the engine. Actually it will increase your horsepower but decrease your torque. Unfortunately all the horsepower lives in the higher RPMs of the engine. Higher RPMs equates to LOUD.
The other train of thought is that loud pipes are easier to hear by motorists. Cars today get quieter and quieter so it's hard to hear or see motorcycles on the road.
Now that I'm older and really enjoy my peace and quiet, I can't say I endorse nor condone loud pipes but I do have to squirm everytime I hear a bike go screaming down the road and see my kids cover their ears. I live in a pretty quiet neighborhood and have to respect my neighbor's peace and quiet when I pull out for those early morning rides too. I still might build myself one of those high performance loud bikes someday but only for those afternoon jaunts.
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Here is my take on the rally's
I played Laconia and Sturgis for the spoke as well as rotation at the #10 in Deadwood in the late 90's. I had two offers for the spoke gigs that year. I didn'd care for the offer from the first band and chose the second offer.
I had a very good time. I loved my temporary musical family. Great folks from New Orleans.
As faith would have it, we opened for the the band that gave me the first offer. Lets just say I made the right choice.
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Oh YA!
Buy the way my Essence did command attention!
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I hadn't thought about the angle of making your presence known to other vehicles. I must admit it makes some sense. Of course the reason I don't ride a bike (having owned a couple in my late teens and early twenties) is that there are cars on the road with them. As Sancho Panza says in Man of La Mancha: Whether the pitcher hits the stone, or the stone hits the pitcher, it's going to be bad for the pitcher
Bill, tgo
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Loud bikes do demand more attention, and I think if I were doing lots of time on the superslab I would want the most noticeable bike as I could muster. Generally, though, ALL bikes are invisible to most people in cars regardless of the noise, and believing otherwise is dangerous.
I can hear my KLR when I accelerate but can't hear it over wind noise at highway speeds, which suits me fine. In the slow stuff, where it helps greatly to hear the engine, I can hear it fine unless there's a big cruiser (of any brand) with loud pipes nearby.
I would be terrified to ride every day in the kinds of traffic some of you folks on the coasts deal with, pipes or no pipes!
John
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wow
Throw in a few pictures and I guess that gives you a license to highjack a tread.
Way to go
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BTW being a motorcyclist myself i did some extensive research and the old saying loud pipes save lives is NOT TRUE. The reason it's not true is most motorcycle accidents involving a bike and car happens when a car pulls into the bikes lane T BONEing the bike. Loud pipes don't help in this situation because the pipe sound is coming from BEHIND the bike and a car in front of the bike doesn't really hear the bike until the bike is on the side or in front of the car. Especially if the car has it's windows up and is playing music or has their AC on. Loud OPEN pipes do help with the motor breathing more and gives the bike more power but i think the REAL LOUD bikes are that way because the biker wants the attention. Why do you think they reve up the motors at stop lights? It isn't because the bike is going to stall, it's so people look at them. Im my opinion (and other bikers are going to slam me for this) REAL loud pipes (Not open for breathing but loud enough to hurt) = a biker dying for attention, look at me, i'm cool! nothing more. I said this on a motorcycle forum I'm a member of ... several members agreed and about 10% took offence. Probably the 10% with painfully loud pipes! :-)
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I actually started to post a response on the subject of loud pipes here but it seems that every time I give my opinion on a subject such as this I get slammed.
So how about we change gears to something a little less controversial, like maybe politics, religion or abortion. Or OH OH how about the price of Pizza. Has anyone else noticed how they keep nudging the price up. It's an abomination I tell you. It's a shame a man can't even afford to have pizza delivered and still have enough money for a cold root beer. Will it never end?!
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My local pizza place offers free delivery, says so right there on the box... but they give you a discount if you pick it up yourself, which I find rather amusing. And of course, then you don't have to tip. But it's still pretty darn expensive.
Wait, what were we talking about?
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The last time we had a pizza delivered the guy came on a motorcycle and, boy, was it LOUD!!!!
(Nice try Olie) LOL
Bill, tgo
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I guess now I'll get credit for re-hijacking this thread armed with a pecker-olie pizza. Guess I'll take my lashes for that, ....like I've been tied...to the whippin' post....
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re-re-re hijack
If loud pips saves lives, why do trains kill so many people?
and I ordered 2 med pizza last week and they came to $27.00 !!! I canceled my order and told them that they had crossed over in to the Red Lobster zone, so the wife and I went to have shrimp
David T
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HA!!!! This is hilarious!!!!!
Okay here you go guys......
More hijacking.
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If people wouldn't try to engineer their cars around the barriers at train crossings, and instead conduct themselves in a law abiding manner, they wouldn?t get smacked in the ?caboose?!
I guess now I?ve gone from HI-jacking this thread to ?railroading? it.
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If loud pips save lives...
So THAT'S why I can't hear Gladys anymore,
(she musta left on that midnight train... hoot,hoot)
Mike
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We've gone from gigging in Laconia, to Riding MC's, to loud pipes, to over priced pizza, to dangerous train crossings, to to Glays Night and the Pips.
WOnder how far we can take it?
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I can't believe someone hasn't mentioned beer yet! It should fit right in with the pizza theme.
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I did mention root-beer.
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i didn't mention I was drinking a beer on the way to get the Shrimp in my Porsche with loud pipes (I don't have a motorcycle)
David T
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OOPS dbl post
(Message edited by olieoliver on July 07, 2006)
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OH NO! Drinking abd driving, another controversial subject.
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HA HA HA HA HA HAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH.
This is to much keep it going. I know if not the loudest pipes in history we can reach the longest tread.
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and driving over the posted speed limit too
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you want to talk about loud pipes, the cruise ship I was on (The Carnival Destiny) when it blew it's horn the first I almost jumped overboard,
scared me to death.
we even had a ship wreck leaving Miami, we hit a fourty foot cabin cruiser and sank them
David T
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Roots???? I was just outside pulling roots out of my garden......
I think I'll sit and have another beer now that I'm done before I have to drive to my gig tonight.
That should give you plenty to work on.....I think.
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Hey John
My brother in dark Beer and Alembic basses.
Should you ever be passing through northern Az, drop me a line and maybe we can sound off at local jam, and have a beer or two. the darks here are generally becks in 24oz ers or Oakcreek brewery they make an awsome stout.
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Dave
I will keep this short and to the point.
From what I have read, you seem to be a nice person and if I were to meet you I probably would like you enough. However as a moderator of this forum I see no difference in you than a politician.
In my humble opion, I feel you need to be lest biased, and stop running with the click,and I dont meen the track.
How's that for balls. I am sorry it had to come to this. sometimes you just got to say what you got to say.
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Dave
I will keep this short and to the point.
From what I have read, you seem to be a nice person and if I were to meet you I probably would like you enough. However as a moderator of this forum I see no difference in you than a politician.
In my humble opinion, I feel you need to be less biased, and stop running with the click,and I dont meen the track.
How's that for balls. I am sorry it had to come to this. sometimes you just got to say what you got to say.
I double post to correct a type O sorry
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Dave
Now I got myself feeling bad. So in your defense I have to say that I can only imagine the job you have placed on yourself as a forum moderator and I have nothing but respect for your undertaking. I just hope I didn't upset you in my opnion. I feel you really are a good soul!
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Can you be Politically Incorrect on an internet forum? just perhaps I should of checked before opening my big mouth.
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I think pizza's without cheese are political correct, Dave Houck for President!
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There are alot of pillars that are proving to not be good for Humanity. I think politics may well be one of them.
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Oh God I've used the P word to many times. Now I've started on the G.
I'm out of here before I get tar'd and feathered.
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I've seen 'Vegan cheese' in the shops over here. Probably tastes like cr*p but at least your pizza will look like ours.
Graeme
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90k6259 - just 60 posts under your belt and you have me COMPLETELY obfuscated.
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Roy - I'll take you up on that if I'm in the area!
Adriaan - I LOVE the word Obfuscate!
Dave - Your's is a thankless job in most respects, but I think you do an awesome job keeping us civil!
John!
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John - it's even better as an adjective: obfuscatory.
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FC, pizza's without cheese....politcal correct, I believe there are a few dairy farmers out there that may disagree with you.
Oh well either wya you slice it up someones not going to like it! LOL
And Dave, I think you are doing a superb job!
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In Pennsylvania they have what Dave might consider the anti-pizza. It's called white pizza and has no sauce! Just lots of mozzerella, lots of fresh chopped garlic, and some chopped broccoli. I thought it was weird the first time I encountered it, but it actually tastes quite good! Me, I NEVER like to hijack a thread (hehehe, and, to be PC, herherher).
Modder Dave, Roy completely lost me. Are you a politician? Do you have a Karl Rove lurking behind one of your Alembics?
And, since you mention it, I don't like the new FTC format. Unnecessarily complicated IMHO. Might this create a whole new categorie of instruments? Yea, I own a pre-FTC Series 1! Your lucky, dude, mine wasn't built until after the FTC changeover.
Pizza for thought?
Bill, tgo
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Bill,
I don't care for the new FTC format either, but, unlike you, I don't have the cahonas to say so. Especially here for the world to see.
John
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You mean other people read this stuff???!!!!
Bill, tgo
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I'm guilty of participating in the very situation I originally was trying to rectify.
The topic was Alembic basses and guitars,under the heading of Alembic product The tread title was bike week.
It wasn't bike week under the topic miscellaneous or some other topic we have found a need to created.
Perhaps we should add a new topic titled off topic were we can jump to with our hijackings. Wouldn't want to miss out on all the fun these highjackings provide.
Dave
I have a sugestion.What would you think of having another username for yourself? One you would use when you want to join in on a discussion, and save your moderator title for when you need to use it.
That way you can participate in all the highjacking fun without upseting those of us, whom on occasion find conflict in a posting.
The reason we have a format is so we can participate in this sea of knowledge in a more direct and timely fashion.
I'm done... I'll get off my soapbox now
Thank you all for your patience and tolerance.
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adriaan-967 post. why are you still confused?
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90k6259 - not confused, obfuscated! But let's not turn this into a post counting match ...
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you say obfuscated and I say confused. Same difference. Hey I have the right to rebutal...
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As some may agree. I've spent way to much time in this tread... So well see you all later.
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Those who might care to continue the discussion of post placement and the cosequent highjacking behavior, please join me in the miscellaneous section under OFF Post.I should of done this many post ago. Sorry
Roy
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Roy wrote: as a moderator of this forum I see no difference in you than a politician. In my humble opinion, I feel you need to be less biased, and stop running with the click,and I dont meen the track. How's that for balls. I am sorry it had to come to this. sometimes you just got to say what you got to say.
Roy, no problem. I find your comments valuable and I appreciate your sharing them with me.
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I think that my comments about hijacked threads were perhaps poorly worded and apparently ill-placed.
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I skipped the Pizza today... I feel kinda bad, Please check the showcase spoiler section for more info (Hijack, Gna,Gna,Gna)
Also sorry to the Farmers
Cheers...
F.C.
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Dang.
Dave, I haven't witnessed you poorly wording or ill-placing anything since I've been here. Quite the opposite you've too often been the still, quiet voice reeling in some of our more rambunctious moments with that reason thing you do so well. I don't know if you asked for or were approached with the opportunity to become Moder Dave but you did step up and do it well always with respect and gentleness.
Oh, I'm sorry, am I getting off the subject? I just thought as long as the wet blanket has been thrown I may as well pop in.
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Dave--I know I'm very new around here, but I would like to second bracheen's comment: I haven't witnessed you poorly wording or ill-placing anything since I've been here...I don't know if you asked for or were approached with the opportunity to become Moder Dave but you did step up and do it well always with respect and gentleness...
Please keep doing what you're doing, exactly the way you've been doing it!!
Eric
(Message edited by alemberic on July 12, 2006)
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oh oh oh Poor Dave, looks how well he's taking it. Come on Kiddies lets all go to his rescue. What a pathetic level this tread has fallen to.
Hey Dave have you had drills on how to handle descent?
(That is really not where I wanted to take this)
However since you insist! If it quakes like a duck! H'mm. I know that I said I was out of here. However I couldn't resist this one.
WOW a real live G-man I'm impressed. Welcome Eric! Let me know if I should be shaking in my boots right about now HUH.
Quick Scotty beem me up before they find the feathers.
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Dave our moderator wrote: Well, in the history of our little forum here, I don't think I've chimed in on a motorcycle thread before; but I thought perhaps I might post in response to a couple comments above.
Dave it wasn't a motorcycle tread it was a tread about a bass player and his Alembic at a motorcycle ralley. As moderator it should of been second nature for you to see that the treat had been highjacked.
please don't you and your buddy's turn this on me to.
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See See I can play the oh poor me card to.
OH oh hear come the feathers. Quick Scotty
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Well Dave must be a Day person ??? OR deep in his bunker planning covert operations.
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Well do you think dave is a day person? Or!! Is he deep in his bunker planning covert operations?
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Dave wrote:
I was just making some suggestions. Since the subject of hijacking had been brought up, I thought I would share some things I had been thinking of for a while. Hijacking isn't necessarily a bad thing, and it often can turn out to be a good thing, taking a discussion to a subject that can be helpful to members. For instance, a thread on a particular speaker cab might morph into a discussion on ohms and how that relates to matching power amps and speaker cabs generally. So I don't think I meant to lay down any hard and fast rules or to suggest that any posts made in the past were particularly wrong.
Now tell me honestly! Is this not the style of a politician ?
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Roy,
This is the style of a careful moderator. Some of us here appear to have tempers, and it is very wise of Dave to tread carefully.
Mind you, he usually doesn't think twice before adding his .02 to the jolly nonsense.
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Adriaan,
This has indeed gotten out of hand. So I am going to try and reduce this situation to its lowest denominator.
Fact1: It is very easy to get all slap stick all over a post. Makes for a great defense.
or as some would say, turn things into a more lighthearted mood.
Fact2: We have guidlines to fall back on to keep things civil. They are our constitution. They should not be toyed with or manipulated. Not even from our moderator.
Fact3: Dave has taken on a tough job, if he choses to do it in the best interest of all its members.
Fact4:Dave jumped right in and acted like he was just another member having a good time.
Well posting as moderator does not allow you that privilege.
It would be wiser of Dave to lay down the constitution of this forum. Not play politics
P.S. Dave this is the last time I address you in the third person. I am a fellow club member and demand to be treated as such.
Roy
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I might be able to eat pizza again (without Cheese)
Cheers!
F.C.
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Roy said
'Fact4:Dave jumped right in and acted like he was just another member having a good time.
Well posting as moderator does not allow you that privilege.'
I really can't agree with this statement at any level. dave has been a member of this club alot longer than most of us here and has as much right as the newest member to post on any subject he has an opinion about. Luckily for Dave, we tend to be a pretty self-moderating bunch and I doubt if I'd need the fingers on one hand to count the number of times anyone has gotten so out of hand he's had to 'pull rank'. I've read this thread a number of times and really am struggling to see why Roy is getting so uptight - he hasn't been 'moderated' anywhere that I can see. perhaps he just doesn't like Beer, bikes and Pizza.
As for Bike week, for us non motorised cyclists, its Bike threeweeks just now as Europes finest sporting spectacle, the tour de france , enters the mountains.
Graeme
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I'm not gonna spend much words on this. I've seen some posts by mr. Houck. My conclusion:
Dave rules!As moderator and as a member!
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Go Dave go! No problems detected from out here on the left coast... at least for a few more hours ... catching a plane today for NYC ... my 11 year old and I are doing the baseball thing ....Yankee Stadium, Camden Yards, Shea Stadium & Hall of Fame ... all that and a trip to Flaxland too! ... and not even one planned motorcycle ride! When we get to Cooperstown, however, we will be searching for birch beer (I went to the HoF when I was about 11 and I remember getting birch beer in town). So Dave, don't let the upstarts get you down ... keep on doin' what you're doin'. My theory is that if no one hired you and no one pays you, that if the job is done gratis, then do it any which way you want. Up for re-election? You get my vote (Since I own 3 Alembics, do I get 3 votes? If it works like that you better get Rami on your side!!!!) LOL So long as no one hijacks the thread to Cuba, I ain't got no problems.
Bill, tgo
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Birch beer! Wonderful stuff, Bill. I hope you find much of it and enjoy it in good health with your son!
John
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Bill have fun!
This will be a great experience for yer 11 year old (Son or Daughter?)
I upgraded myself to two votes today (actualy last night and I will try to get more votes soon!)
btw: tip from Flip, keep your son away From JD! -LOL- (I presume Son since yer going to do the bassball thing)
(Message edited by fc_spoiler on July 13, 2006)
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You have my vote(s)too Dave! (X4?)
You know what last night the wife and I were laying out by the pool and this bee kept buzzing aroung my wife. She kept swatting at it and swatting at it but the bee kept comeing back. I told her just ignore it and it will go away. So she tried my suggestion, (first time for everything)and guees what? The bee went on its merry way my wife fell asleep in the hammock and I went up strairs and played my newest Alembic.
Moral of the story, if your Honey will leave the honey maker alone, you get to spend time with your other honey, Or life's too short to worry about the buzz!
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Roy,
Here's my take: you need to mellow out.
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So . . . how was Laconia? See any cool bikes?
J o e y
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Boy.
fc: JD?
Bill, tgo
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I think FC refers to this (http://club.alembic.com/index.php?topic=20034).
Joram
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I thought he meant Jack Daniels.
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And the prize goes to........ Bob!
You can collect the prize (a bottle of Jack Daniels) at my home
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That's what I meant to say! I started with JD and still love it, but I must say I don't drink a lot these days... What do I win? :-D
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Ah a JD lover uut Grun!
Well you can get a glazz of JD at my home since the grand prize is not available anymore...
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Sorry joram, i misread yer message, I'll see if i can convince the jury to get another bottle....
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Nope, no JD for the kid. Heck, we're just beginning to let him experiment with Pepsi! Besides, he's already addicted to the X-box he got for getting good grades in school. One addiction is enough. Besides, I'm more of a single malt scotch or Bombay Saffire guy. (Like I might have 1 drink a month). I believe in healthier ways of altering consciousness (surprise, surprise ... LOL).
Bill, tgo
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My favorite pub drink is.... (I'm not sure if I should mention it, gotta think 'bout me reputation)... Tea! and cola... Well I'm from Holland, so I think my choice of altering my consciousness should be obvious...
I have to appologize to some Dutch club members, not everyone here likes it as much as me... so to all you non Hollanders please do not be prejudiced against the Dutch!
Cheers!
F.C.
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To be quite honest, I'd prefer a glass of Laphroaig over a bottle of JD. And going to Beetsterzwaag would take me just an hour by bus, so...
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...I'll have to get a new bottle, my dad's to blame for that!
I have some glenmorangie (port wood finish and the regular 10 years old) or we could drink up to 2 glasses of Bowmore(cask strenght), I have some dimple left and a glass or two Glenrothes. As I said in the other thread (of post), all my money is infested in Alembic...
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It's funny how threads turn to topics other than what they were originally intended. I made a post about my experiences during bike week in Laconia, NH and then responded to a question about the venue. All of a sudden this becomes a biker thread. Personally, I love it. I have not owned a bike for years although I do plan to buy one next summer. Last night I watched a program about the history of the Hell's Angels. I have played at many motorcycle related events and have always been treated with the utmost respect regardless of whether Hell's Angels members were involved or not. There is a reason why the greatest bands of all time play motorcycle related rallies such as Laconia, Myrtle Baech, Daytona and Sturgis. In general, bikers are cool people who just want to have a good time. I have been fortunate enough to play them all. Here's to great music, great bikes and great people.
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Sooo... Are you playing Sturgis?
John
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I remember an evening news micro-interview of Billy Gibbons, when ZZ Top was playing at a biker affair. The bubble-headed bleached blonde (to use Don Henley's phrase) asked Billy, Why are you so fascinated with these Harleys? Billy said, They're big; they're fast; they're loud---I rest my case.
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I live about 80 miles from Daytona and only made it to Bike Week once. And that was accidently. I just happened to be driving through. I've known a lot of people either attending or playing these events and they all have a great time. There's another in Leesburg Florida that I've heard is a good rally. Senior management so far hasn't squawked much about GAS but isn't budging on the motorcycle issue.
George, Billy left out one adjective ... ridiculously expensive. (ducking now from the Harley guys)
Sam
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Uh Oh, was the Captain drinking and driving too?!
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ROOTS, starring Levar Burton whom was also in STar Trek NG. I bet the Enterprise could get that pizza here fast, might be too loud for my neighorhood though!
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O.K. That opens up Tribbles and Dilithium crystals! And while we're on the subject of Star Trek, last weekend I bought a portable GPS (Nuvi 350 - GREAT unit), you know one of those little boxes that hooks up to a bunch of satellites and gives you directions. This one actually talks to you. You can set it for several different voices, male or female, American English, British English, Australian English, or a bunch of other languages.
I was thinking it would be really cool if these things came with the choice of Majel Barrett (computer voice in ALL Star Trek episodes and movies) and Hal 2000 from 2001. Of course you'd have to be careful with the Hal 2000 voice: take a right here, Dave and it sends you off a cliff! LOL
Bill, tgo
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Off a cliff?! OH NO!, says Thelma to Louise.
Speaking of Dave, where is our moderater? I thought for sure he'd jump into this one. It's way toooooo much fun.
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You hit and sank a forty foot cabin cruiser??? Wow! Now there's something you don't see everyday!
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I knew you couldn't resist Dave.
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Hi Olie; I just logged on.
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Hi Dave. This string has been too much man. Every time I read back I laugh my tale off. Musicians are the craziest people man. They really know how to stir things up...OOH OOH STir Crazy, any Richard Pryor puns guys.
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Richard Pryor, huh?
How about:
This thread is absolutely on fire.
Glad that Alembic offers us a free base to post our opinions.
I'm sure others have some more that will CRACK us up.
Brad
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Brad, Brad, Brad. Thats sick man, FUNNY, but sick. (psst. I'm still laugin' at it man, just like a kid who got THE TOY he wanted for christmas).
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Personally, I'd vote for none of the above.
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Well, Bob,
Maybe you should just kick back and open a brewster (or a million).
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Lets ask young master Bates what he thinks, thats if its ok with U.S.
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I'm not even going there Olie........ Heeeheeeheee!!!!
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LOUD BEER SAVES LIVES! :-)
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Beer Pipes are bad, though.
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What about beer bongs?
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It seems you guys won't have to worry 'bout Dave... be on the lookout for G.W.Bush! This thread is beyond hijacking, this is pure terrorism! (and fun to read!)
I don't like cheese, can I get pizza whitout it?
How much for shipping to Holland? Can I return the pizza if it's deliverd cold? Will I get a refund?
Cheers!
F.C.
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Let me make sure I've got this right, you want to order a pizza but cut the cheese!
(lets see what ya'll can do with this one.) LOL
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That loud pipe will asphyxiate innocent bystanders!
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Let me put it this way: I won't say cheese if there's any cheese on the pizza, It looked like I said cheese when I saw your message!
Now I know for sure, all my ex mothers in law were right about musicians!
-LOL-
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duplicate post!
(Message edited by 811952 on July 09, 2006)
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My Mesa/Boogie does just the same!(in combination with Alembic of course)
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Actually FC if its not there in 30 minutes you get the pizza free.
It might be cold but cold pizza without cheese is just that....
cold pizza without cheese!!!!
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When is Sturgis?
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From the way you folks are acting, one would think that this month's special includes window pane for any participating members of this tread. Don't forget kids safety first! Oh ya and also don't forget to use feeler gauges when restoring those set ups. You also will want to record your measurements and climate conditions for future reference. ARk ARK
Alert! This just in... From your Radio Dinner Hour....
There appears to have been a large number of high jacking's on the road to Sturgis South Dakota. An enormous number of pizza boxes have been seen driving Harley motorcycles leaving Deadwood... Oh wait... I am being told that it really isn't a high jacking after all. It would appear that a local pizza parlor was the site of a rather large lottery winning. This has lead to the acquirement of brand new Harley Davidson motorcycles for all the pizza boxes in the parlor... All this just in time for the nations most famous Rally. What an exciting time this is for sure... You certainly won't want to miss this one. With such a large amount of winnings, these Brand new custom bikes and thier proud owners are bound to create the most competitive loud pipe contests seen in years at the famous Broke Spoke Saloon... Back to you Turnip.
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John, Sturgis is Aug 7-13.
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Thanks. One day I'll check my fears and pre-conceived notions at the door and pay it a visit. Whenever there's a day or two in the summer with lots of Harleys headed west I always wonder if it's Sturgis time. I wonder if Kevin has been able to make a decision about playing or not playing it..
John
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why are we talking Sturgis in this thread ?
you would think this thread was about Bikes or somthing
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Du'oh!
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I thought it was about exercise. I ride my bike and it makes me weak.
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I'm going to propose Bradley's Bromide:
Any thread of sufficient length on the Alembic club will be hijacked by someone wanting to talk about motorcycles or beer or both.
And the corrolary:
Any thread about beer or motorcycles or both is free game.
Turnabout is fair play.
Bradley
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Lets Roll
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Bradley,
I never knew you were a chemist.
Mike
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I think I'm gonna make my own pizza....
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Like Zappa said: Shut Up and Play Yer Guitar (and ride your scoot)! LOL!
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All what we got here's
American made
It's a little bit cheesey
But it's nicely displayed
'Flakes' from Sheik Yerbouti (Zappa)
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Actually, being titled Bike Week, I don't think this thread got hijacked nearly so badly as has been implied, especially given that Kevin (Rockbassist) hasn't complained as far as I can tell. Add the bonus that Kevin's issues/concerns have been discussed by the group as Kevin intended (by creating and posting to the Bike Week thread). Now we're pretty much having a good laugh (or six) while waiting to hear how things are going with Kevin and whether or not he's doing the gigs, some of the allure of which must surely be all the bikes...
As far as I'm concerned (and until Dave suggests to me otherwise), ALL discussions are exactly that. It's the difference between talking *with* someone and talking *at* someone, and ANY interesting discussion is going to take a turn or two down an unexpected path. If the initiator of a thread doesn't like the topic-drift, that's one thing, because it's still his or her thread (somewhat). If one of us who simply chimes-in doesn't like where it's going, then tough teabags! It's the Internets, people!
For myself, the perfect thread:
a) glorifies me and everything I do or say
b) mentions how awesome my Alembic is
c) has offers to buy me dark dark beer
d) notes the simplistic beauty of the KLR650
e) contains pictures I find appealing
f) glorifies me and everything I do or say
John (who still needs coffee this morning)
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HERE HERE John, I agree 100%.
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Bike week?
Watch out, Sheryl Crow's lookin' for ya, and she's pissed!
Bill, tgo
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Well if she comes after me I'll get the strong arm of the law after her. And if that doesn't stop her I'll challenge her to a joust, a Lance being my weapon of choice!
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Well, from time to time I've kinda wanted to address this issue anyway, so I'll hijack this thread and address it here. As a general rule, I think you probably wouldn't want to hijack someone's FTC thread or Showcase thread or For Sale or Wanted thread. And posting a lot of off topic messages in a Troubleshooting thread could make it hard to follow the diagnosis and treatment discussion, especially in a thread that might or could have eventually become a Must Reads selection. Some threads have not become Must Reads just for this reason. And I wouldn't think you would want to hijack a serial number thread, especially before Mica has had a chance to respond to the request. And you might not want to clutter up a Dreaming thread if there's an ongoing discussion about a probable custom order. And I would think that you wouldn't want to get too far off course in someone's Gigs thread. However, any thread that starts out by talking about bikes or beer should definitely be hijacked as soon as possible. Common sense and respect for fellow club members should generally be a good guide.
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I personally don't see where this thread was hi-jacked per say. I do beleive it has strayed some from its original post but looking back over it I don't see one single post that stole the show so to speak. It has been fun though. I love the witt and humor of musicians.
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Dave' was I wrong here?
http://club.alembic.com/Images/394/29034.html?1150577923 (http://club.alembic.com/index.php?topic=6247)
I didn't think it necessary to post a second thread, but if protocol dictates that I should have I apologize. I don't want to step on any toes. I have nothing but love and respect for all here.
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OK OK I apologies, Yes it was I whom first use the H word. However in my own defense it was kinda tongue in cheek. I didn't realise it would be taken so seriously. I just figured it was a tread for those of us who have played the ralley's. not a showcase for motorcycles, although those are some very nice looking rides! Sorry I caused such a stir.
Roy
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Roy, as they say in Negril, every tings irie mon!
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One would think that in the context of this club. Alembic basses showing up at the ralleys, are at least as important as the bikes themselves.
I guess the tread title left things a little to wide open. Not that i'm trying to push the blame off on anyone.Just innocent consequence going on I think.
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Here's something to laugh about: Vantage Bass guitar on e-bay. Offered as Alembic style bass guitar. Check those details, stunning! The best thing is right next to condition, it says good... well ok but what comes after that is ludicrous, check for yourself: Click here (http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Vantage-Alembic-Style-Bass-Guitar-Japan-NR_W0QQitemZ280006467881QQihZ018QQcategoryZ4713QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem target=_blank)
I think the price is fair though. Check this guy's e-bay store, there are some nice items there.
btw I think this thread IS a must read, Alice in chains! YES! (Check first message)
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Roy,
Sometimes I take the wrong things too seriously and entirely miss the intended meaning within the context! And Alembic basses showing up (and sounding off) ANYWHERE is important stuff! It's all good...
John who HAS hijacked (inadvertantly) many a thread himself...
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I was just making some suggestions. Since the subject of hijacking had been brought up, I thought I would share some things I had been thinking of for a while. Hijacking isn't necessarily a bad thing, and it often can turn out to be a good thing, taking a discussion to a subject that can be helpful to members. For instance, a thread on a particular speaker cab might morph into a discussion on ohms and how that relates to matching power amps and speaker cabs generally. So I don't think I meant to lay down any hard and fast rules or to suggest that any posts made in the past were particularly wrong.
I've noticed recently that Mica has changed the way she does FTC threads so that a particular FTC has three sections. And I've realized that I've probably been posting in the wrong sections of those FTCs.
And being vegan, I don't want any cheese on my pizza; thank you.