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Title: Anyone playing different scale length basses?
Post by: frank_orlando on January 06, 2007, 10:34:36 PM

Greetings. I find myself owning and loving a number of Alembic and non-Alembic basses in various scales. I have 30.5 32 and 34. Does anyone have any issues with playing different scale basses? Does it impact your playing? I hear some players say that they find switching from one scale to another affects their playing even if it is not during the same gig. I personally don't have a problem, even during a gig, but I was curious to hear from others on this. I find it more noticable switching from a 24 fret neck to a 19 regardless of scale length. I do have to work a bit harder on a 34 since I have small hands but I don't even think about it while I'm playing. Thanks! Frank

Title: Anyone playing different scale length basses?
Post by: hieronymous on January 06, 2007, 11:04:09 PM

I don't have any trouble switching. For a while I had basses that were 28 1/2, 30, 32, 34, and 36. Right now I think I'm only really playing a 30 Gibson, Fender Bass VI & Alembic baritone, and basically 34 scale Alembic fretless and Rickenbackers.  I wonder if it comes from playing both guitar and bass from an early age?

Title: Anyone playing different scale length basses?
Post by: jazzyvee on January 06, 2007, 11:52:03 PM

I would have to agree with you hieronymous, I switch between, 30, 34 and standard guitar during a practice session and don't have any problems.
 
The scale difference is noticeable but I don't find it affects my playing. I do find that the guitar becomes easier to articulate if I practice on that after I've done my bass playing. It stretches my fingers out more.
Jazzyvee

Title: Anyone playing different scale length basses?
Post by: keith_h on January 07, 2007, 05:10:37 AM

I have no problems switching between 30.5 and 34 fretted or fretless. I also dabble with guitar.  
 
Keith

Title: Anyone playing different scale length basses?
Post by: hankster on January 07, 2007, 05:36:45 AM

I often switch between my 30.75 Stanley, a 34 Stingray, and an NS upright electric bass without any issue.  I think that having practiced enough on each of them at some point sets the muscle memory.
 
Rick

Title: Anyone playing different scale length basses?
Post by: ajdover on January 07, 2007, 06:06:28 AM

I just bought a Stanley Clarke Signature Standard with a short scale.  What I've noticed is that I'm able to play faster, e.g., more notes easier, as well as play chords easier.  I don't notice any difficulty switching between long and short scales - you just have approach them differently and plan ahead.  Also, I've noticed that even standard gauge strings seem to be more floppy than on long scales - I've sure there's physics involved here, but I'm glad I can get standard gauges and still get the feel string-wise I'm after (I use light gauge DR Hi Beams on all my long scale basses).
 
Alan
 
P.S.  The two octave neck is no biggie for me on a short scale.

Title: Anyone playing different scale length basses?
Post by: dannobasso on January 07, 2007, 06:27:03 AM

I switch between short, medium, long and 35, wide, narrow, 7 fretless as well as 22 and 24 fret guitars including 7 string. The key for me is to ( similar to Rick) to play each in rotation fairly regularly.  I approach each instrument as being different, some set up differently for a different sound and purpose. ie strats with a higher action for more bite in bending etc. Echoing Alan, I could play noticably faster on a short scale. All my stage basses with Doomtree are 34 set necks so for covers or jamming I switch to short and medium to give them all some stage time. I think variety improves your ability to adapt to any instrument that is handed to you. Not everyone is going to hand you an Alembic at an open jam.

Title: Anyone playing different scale length basses?
Post by: ajdover on January 07, 2007, 06:33:42 AM

Not everyone is going to hand you an Alembic at an open jam.
 
     - Dannobasso, 7 Jan 07
 
Danno,
 
   It's been my experience that no one in their right mind is going to hand you an Alembic at any jam, simply because no one else will have one!  That and the fact that they don't want someone to damage it irreparably! :-)
 
Alan
 
(Message edited by ajdover on January 07, 2007)

Title: Anyone playing different scale length basses?
Post by: dannobasso on January 07, 2007, 10:38:09 AM

I heartily agree. Funny thing though, I always handed over one of mine when the situation demanded it. Most were afraid but some guys were jazzed by it. Of course there were criteria: no belts, no cigarettes, no metal jewelery and  you break it, you bought it!
The most telling thing is how accurate Alembics are and how someone else sound on them. They are real truth detectors on technique.  
 
Congrats on yournew SC and thank you for your service.

Title: Anyone playing different scale length basses?
Post by: 811952 on January 07, 2007, 10:46:10 AM

I hand people my Alembic at open jams.  The reaction in interesting, to say the least.  It's a bass, dammit!  That said, if I sense a vibe that they are going to be careless and/or reckless, then no, I don't let them touch it.  If nobody ever gets to play ours, then how will they know they want one of their own?
 
As for the scale length thing, I play 34 and 35 scale basses, and have owned short and medium scale basses.  The only difference I discern between the 34 and 35 is a bit of string tension.  When I pickup a short of medium scale instrument and find sometimes I overshoot my target until I've warmed up to the thing.  I don't believe you can possibly go wrong by playing as wide a variety of instruments as possible on as regular a basis as possible.  
 
Possible (and possibly its variants) are possibly going to be my word of the day today, possibly.
 
John

Title: Anyone playing different scale length basses?
Post by: 5stringho on January 07, 2007, 06:04:59 PM

Maybe I'm a Wuss, but the only Basses I've gotten rid of in the past are a Modulus Quantum 5 and a LakLand 5. I didn't have any  problems switching between them and another 5, or between a  4 or 6-string bass, but with  RMI (repetitive motion injuries, Carpal tunnel, tendonitis, stuff like that) I find the 35scale uncomfortable. I just prefer a 34 scale. Like Danno said, practice them all on a fairly steady rotation,  and even though I only have 34's, I try to start the night with a 4 to warm up. Play what ya got, Have Fun!!!    The 'Ho....

Title: Anyone playing different scale length basses?
Post by: inthelows on January 07, 2007, 06:05:18 PM

Starting on longer scale basses you stretch out a little more or adjust your hand positioning some-what. I find like others, short scale lend themselves to some faster playing.  
I think comfort defines the extent of your reach and the size of your hand and technique of what you play defines the rest.
I play upright bass, electric basses and guitars and down to mandolin. Each animal is different and the mental approach on each differs with them.
On really long scale basses my reach is limited so my hand moves. Speed is determined by how fast my hand moves. On mandolin, fingers are so close that often two fingers cover six strings. I actually pay more attention on the clean picking of notes.
My 2cents
NLP

Title: Anyone playing different scale length basses?
Post by: the_8_string_king on January 07, 2007, 07:08:38 PM

Yeah, I've just never had trouble switching between various instruments of different scale lengths; I can pretty much go from one to another -although, perhaps predictably, it's easier to go from a longer scale to a shorter than the other way around, I think.
 
And if I know I'm gonna play bass and guitar, I'll almost always play the bass first; then, when I switch to guitar, the reduced scale length makes it incredibly easy to play (compared to what I just played).