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Title: Mike Rutherford (Genesis) an Alembic user?
Post by: blazer on June 10, 2007, 06:25:55 PM

Genesis performing their Hit Misunderstanding live during the ABACAP tour in the early eighties. And Mike Rutherford appears to be laying down the bottom on an Alembic. The crown shaped headstock and the oval inlays are give aways. So what's the story behind Mike's Alembic?
Title: Mike Rutherford (Genesis) an Alembic user?
Post by: harald_rost on June 10, 2007, 11:22:23 PM
All these camera-men will end in the hell because they never focalize the bass player in such films!
Argh!
 
Harald
Title: Mike Rutherford (Genesis) an Alembic user?
Post by: 57basstra on June 11, 2007, 04:38:58 AM
It's not the camera-people nearly as much as it is the producers calling the shots. You can hear a bass player going to town on a lick and see video of a guitar player hacking away at chords or a drummer pounding his toms.
Title: Mike Rutherford (Genesis) an Alembic user?
Post by: bigbadbill on June 11, 2007, 04:47:07 AM
I have some concert footage that was shown on the tv and Mike is using an Alembic Series. Looks (and sounds)great. I noticed that he'd moved the strap button to the lower horn though; I guess he wasn't happy with the balance. I know that after this he started using the Steinbergers; he described the huge tone range of the Alembic as almost too confusing.
Title: Mike Rutherford (Genesis) an Alembic user?
Post by: keavin on June 11, 2007, 05:05:35 AM
It takes time to get used to the world of sounds of a series bass & alot of bassists cant handle the variations & therefore they switch basses.......that's a result from years of playing P-bass (the two knob syndrome).
 
(Message edited by keavin on June 11, 2007)
Title: Mike Rutherford (Genesis) an Alembic user?
Post by: bracheen on June 11, 2007, 06:09:58 AM
The tone knob on my old P-bass didn't change anything that I could tell.  I figured it was there for symmetry.
Title: Mike Rutherford (Genesis) an Alembic user?
Post by: kenbass4 on June 11, 2007, 07:48:00 AM
Michael Rutherford is HOW I discovered Alembic!!
 
After drooling over his One-off Shergold doubleneck, I saw his equipment list and photos that showed an Omega Series bass, and I began hunting for an Alembic to try out...which then got me hooked!!
Title: Mike Rutherford (Genesis) an Alembic user?
Post by: chuck on June 11, 2007, 08:06:01 AM
The last video of Fleetwood Mac Live in Boston shows some very good shots of John Mcvie (my hero) doing his thing,of course Stevie is much better on the eye's.
Title: Mike Rutherford (Genesis) an Alembic user?
Post by: olieoliver on June 11, 2007, 08:27:31 AM
I didn't know Rutherford played Alembic either.
Title: Mike Rutherford (Genesis) an Alembic user?
Post by: 811952 on June 12, 2007, 07:52:07 AM
Nor had I.  Not a big surprise though, now that I know!  ;)
Title: Mike Rutherford (Genesis) an Alembic user?
Post by: lidon2001 on June 12, 2007, 08:42:18 AM
Daryl Stuermer can be seen playing one of these neck through Suntech Strats in the video:
 
(http://club.alembic.com/Images/393/40938.jpg)
Title: Mike Rutherford (Genesis) an Alembic user?
Post by: blazer on June 12, 2007, 10:13:38 AM
THANK YOU!
 
I always wondered who made that Guitar that Daryl played in the first couple of tours he did with Genesis.
Title: Mike Rutherford (Genesis) an Alembic user?
Post by: lidon2001 on June 12, 2007, 03:11:28 PM
(http://club.alembic.com/Images/393/40952.jpg)
Title: Mike Rutherford (Genesis) an Alembic user?
Post by: terryc on June 18, 2007, 07:44:58 AM
Can someone tell me what that is hanging at the end of the headstock??
Nice wood though
Title: Mike Rutherford (Genesis) an Alembic user?
Post by: adriaan on June 18, 2007, 07:50:32 AM
Looks like a wall-mount hanger to me. The picture is turned to the right.
Title: Mike Rutherford (Genesis) an Alembic user?
Post by: blazer on July 08, 2007, 01:50:43 PM
I found footage of that same concert which shows Mike's Alembic much better.
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaLoZwt00Fk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaLoZwt00Fk)
 
And yes indeed, he has the strap on the lower bout, probably to improve the balance of that bass.
Title: Mike Rutherford (Genesis) an Alembic user?
Post by: edmouk on August 02, 2007, 02:20:54 AM
Mike Rutherford can also be seen playing an Alembic S1 on the Three sides live video (a documentary about Genesis during the Abacab tour) : This VHS tape was published by Virgin some 25 years ago. It has to be said that Mike only used his Alembic for 2 or 3 songs in this show (Darryl Stuermer played a Fender Precision I think when Mike played the guitar parts). On the Mama tour, he used a Status S2 (A Strata to be more precise - The previous name of Status before Fender asked Rob Green to change it because it sounded too much like Strato).
Title: Mike Rutherford (Genesis) an Alembic user?
Post by: edmouk on August 02, 2007, 03:30:27 AM
I've just found this :
(http://club.alembic.com/Images/393/42633.jpg)

(http://club.alembic.com/Images/393/42634.jpg)
Title: Mike Rutherford (Genesis) an Alembic user?
Post by: blazer on August 02, 2007, 11:45:42 AM
Wow, that's from the Six Of The Best reunion concert in 1982 where they had quite a full stage, with Peter Gabriel (seen playing percussion on the pictures), Steve Hackett, Mike Rutherford, Phil Collins, Tony Banks Daryl Steurmer and Chester Thompson.
 
There are bootlegs from that one off reunion performance but no official recordings or films which is a damn shame.
 
(Message edited by Blazer on August 02, 2007)
 
(Message edited by Blazer on August 02, 2007)
Title: Mike Rutherford (Genesis) an Alembic user?
Post by: edmouk on August 03, 2007, 08:57:28 AM
Yes that's right. I have the 2 CDs bootleg and the sound is really poor. Just for fans I suppose.