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Title: Potent Portables
Post by: Quasar1 on December 20, 2024, 04:34:11 AM
 :) :) :) 

I built my arms up for many years with my Ampeg cabinets,

I may have to treat myself on one of these for Christmas  8)

Very interesting video


Website

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Title: Re: Potent Portables
Post by: sonicus on December 21, 2024, 01:55:38 PM
This inspires me to build my own tubular speaker enclosure using 16" Schedule 40 PVC pipe  or an ABS type  .I would hunt to find a scarp cut off piece. Easy to build :) I would need two end caps as well or make my own from birch plywood for the baffle board and closed back . One could experiment with different lengths for the desired resonant frequency to match the driver.
Title: Re: Potent Portables
Post by: Quasar1 on December 21, 2024, 02:40:41 PM
This inspires me to build my own tubular speaker enclosure using 16" Schedule 40 PVC pipe  or an ABS type  .I would hunt to find a scarp cut off piece. Easy to build :) I would need two end caps as well or make my own from birch plywood for the baffle board and closed back . One could experiment with different lengths for the desired resonant frequency to match the driver.

Hey Sonicus

Thanks man, I really thought more folks around here would find this interesting :-\

If you build one , please flaunt it  ;D
Title: Re: Potent Portables
Post by: sonicus on December 21, 2024, 02:53:22 PM
Quasar1
              I shall :)
Title: Re: Potent Portables
Post by: edwardofhuncote on December 21, 2024, 02:58:17 PM
FWIW, the corrugated drain pipe adds surface area without adding length. I can't help but think it has some effect on how the sound waves travel inside the cabinet. I ain't gonna' have any workmares about it tonight but, uhhh... yeah... sumthin' to think about.
Title: Re: Potent Portables
Post by: JimmyJ on December 21, 2024, 03:24:45 PM
That fella's design is an open-back chunk of pipe so I doubt there would be any resonance issues.  Unless you built a 10ft of version - which might get interesting.  The one thing about having such a lightweight sound generator is - what does the speaker get to push against?  I would guess playing bass through these would send them dancing around the floor.  It's a very lightweight rig but the sandbags involved are a real headache.  Or maybe we could incorporate a water filled counterweight.  "I'm setting up my bass rig, could I borrow your garden hose"?  ;D

Jimmy J
Title: Re: Potent Portables
Post by: sonicus on December 21, 2024, 03:35:14 PM
I have taken a look at their website and as well saw this concept on FB recently . They offer variations in design and driver size for different applications . If I build it, it would have a closed back :) .Or , a long bass cannon to part hair at 20 feet perhaps and shoot out packing peanuts just for fun ; with a reverse rear baffle design and an opened front .
LOL  :) _____Boom,  move some air }}}}}}}}}}}}
Title: Re: Potent Portables
Post by: bigredbass on December 22, 2024, 03:10:59 PM
WHAT would guys like this have done in the 70's when I started out when being a bass player also meant you were a furniture mover?  Back then, with folded 19's, 810's, 215's, that was every time you went out, and we thought single 15 combos that weighed 60 lbs were a lightweight alternative !  But you knew this going in.  If it's a little much for you bud, the geetars and flutes are that-a-way.  Geez.

He hasn't reinvented the wheel, just got new alloys.  It's still a guitar speaker on a flat baffle, in a plastic tube instead of wooden cabinet.  And like anything else open-backed, for bass you can forget it.  Hell, I never thought I'd live to see 800 watt amps the size of a cigar box and a 215 that weights 60 lbs.

I keep waiting for this weight mania to extend to other instruments, I'm REALLY waiting to see the new lightweight nine-foot Steinways or composite-shell kettle drums.

Every year, the wheel looks to be re-invented, and it never happens.
Title: Re: Potent Portables
Post by: sonicus on December 22, 2024, 04:18:45 PM
Bigredbass , I concur !
I remember hauling around my 2 Alembic A-15 birch cabs with JBLs, powered by a Sunn 2000S ( I also had a 200S) .As well I had a huge dual throat folded horn cab the size of a refrigerator with an 18" JBL,  that I used at a gig where my band opened for Johnny Paycheck ,back in the Day ____ . I had a van that worked well for the logistics of those cabs, however before I had the van, I hauled my rig with the two Alembic A-15s in a VW Bug, with the rear seats removed ! LOL _ I was much stronger then _____.
Title: Re: Potent Portables
Post by: cozmik_cowboy on December 23, 2024, 10:00:06 AM
A bass player I roadied for & I redesigned his rig (which was an SVT w/2 8X10s).  Ended up with 1 of the Ampeg cabs modded into 3 sections; top to bottom 2X10, 1X15, 2X10.  This was accompanied by an 18 folded horn the same size as the Ampeg.  He had either a Furman pre-amp & Ashley cross-over, or vice-versa (this was almost 50 years ago......).  The 10s & 15 were powered by a Yamaha power amp (I disremember the model number), the 18 by the power section of an Acoustic head.  All in flight cases, of course.  Sounded freakin' amazing


Have I mentioned that I've had 4 back surgeries?


Peter (who will add that the piano player in that band had a piano - just a spinet, not a grand, but still a bit of a load at the 2 regular venues that were 2nd floor, requiring everything to be carried up & down the fire escapes.......)
Title: Re: Potent Portables
Post by: rv_bass on December 23, 2024, 01:18:44 PM
Tone tabby made a tubular bass cab for someone once…I guess you just roll it in and roll it out, no need for lifting :)






Title: Re: Potent Portables
Post by: hieronymous on December 23, 2024, 04:47:50 PM
I used to imagine a round speaker cabinet (though in my mind it was just a single 15") and rolling it in and out was my reasoning!
Title: Re: Potent Portables
Post by: edwardofhuncote on December 24, 2024, 01:56:05 PM
Acoustic Image made several round-ish bass cabinets. Several of them had down-firing woofers, with a horn or tweeter out front. I actually have one of the first-generation Contra Amps that's configured this way... somewhere... does Dad have it?


Hmmm. When you forget where you left your upright rig at... whassat mean?!