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Title: nice europa sixer jsup opped on reeveerb
Post by: BeenDown139 on January 10, 2024, 04:51:01 AM
https://reverb.com/item/77981615-alembic-europa-6-string-1995-gloss-natural

if i was to jump the shark and take up the  six-string bass in my advanced years, this is what i'd take with me.  wahtta beauty!
Title: Re: nice europa sixer jsup opped on reeveerb
Post by: fivestringdan on January 10, 2024, 08:13:48 AM
This looks like the bass my friend Chris put a new fingerboard on.
Title: Re: nice europa sixer jsup opped on reeveerb
Post by: garyhead on January 10, 2024, 08:44:27 AM
Why is the hardware so beat up?  It is 29 years old but who wears the finish off tuners?
Title: Re: nice europa sixer jsup opped on reeveerb
Post by: fivestringdan on January 10, 2024, 08:54:14 AM
That's been my experience with Gotoh hardware. Good looking stuff and works well but the finish doesn't last. Same with Grover hardware.
Title: Re: nice europa sixer jsup opped on reeveerb
Post by: gtrguy on January 10, 2024, 10:48:56 AM
The brass back plate also seems to have the same kind of finish wear. I think they are clear coated when new, so that seems odd...
Title: Re: nice europa sixer jsup opped on reeveerb
Post by: sonicus on January 10, 2024, 11:39:02 AM
Strung E A D G C F as per the description . :) I have had the finish on "Gold" tuners from other manufacturers fail as well . 
Title: Re: nice europa sixer jsup opped on reeveerb
Post by: StephenR on January 10, 2024, 12:07:13 PM
I like the look of gold tuners but all the instruments I have owned that had them ended up with tarnish on them that couldn't be removed. Interestingly I was thinking earlier about asking the best way to clean the gold tuners on my Series II bass so they don't suffer the same fate. Any ideas?

Title: Re: nice europa sixer jsup opped on reeveerb
Post by: mica on January 10, 2024, 06:31:11 PM
All gold plated hardware wears - tuners get touched a lot, and it's most the acidity of the person's skin that determines the type of wear. Some just stay smooth and wear down to the base metal. Some get pitted and bumpy and gross. The gold plating itself doesn't tarnish, but since sweat travels down to underplated layers (nickel and copper) through small pores, they can oxidize and you can't really clean under the gold plating.

We gave up on our position on gold tuners long ago. You'll notice the oldest Alembics almost exclusively have chrome tuners. This is because the chrome plating wears much better. But sooooooo many people complained the chrome didn't match the gold so we eventually just put the  gold tuners on, I think sometime in the 1990s.

29 years is kind of a long time. Do players really expect something that old, and that's hopefully been played a whole bunch, to still look new? Tuners are pretty cheap to replace and you can get another couple decades of use out of them.

I actually think that the gold hardware on this bass (because all the hardware looks goldplated even in the smallish photos) was cleaned with metal polish, which you should never do - it just greatly accelerates the wearing off process. Just clean with a soft cloth. Use a damp cloth if you need to remove gunge, then dry with another soft dry cloth. For the bridge, tailpiece, nut and plates, they would have to be sanded down with micromesh to a flat surface and replated. That part won't be cheap.

Also looks like Brazilian Rosewood burl to me. I don't recall ever having Indian Rosewood in burl.
Title: Re: nice europa sixer jsup opped on reeveerb
Post by: sonofa_lembic on January 11, 2024, 07:33:10 AM
Looks like a super narrow neck for a 6 string.  Almost like 5 string taper from nut to body.