Alembic Guitars Club

Connecting => Swap Shop and Wish Lists => Seen on craigslist, eBay, and elsewhere => Topic started by: mb94952 on October 18, 2023, 01:33:58 PM

Title: Fernandes 170 6 string guitar
Post by: mb94952 on October 18, 2023, 01:33:58 PM
Wow, pretty nice, and very affordable at $1300. No affiliation, I don't even play guitar anymore.(https://i.imgur.com/uaTzzh7.jpg)https://reverb.com/item/74687095-fernandes-170-w-vintage-nos-alembic-bridge-vintage-stratoblaster-with-custom-brass-parts-playable-project-guitar-mij-japan-rare

Title: Re: Fernandes 170 6 string guitar
Post by: lbpesq on October 18, 2023, 01:58:31 PM
Saw this one on Reverb this morning.   Made me think of a guy in a white smock, behind a counter full of meat.

Bill, tgo
Title: Re: Fernandes 170 6 string guitar
Post by: edwardofhuncote on October 18, 2023, 02:12:08 PM
That guitar belongs to a club member, who doesn't check in here very much anymore.


If interested, you might ping user SoilandStone here- https://club.alembic.com/index.php?action=profile;u=26312
Title: Re: Fernandes 170 6 string guitar
Post by: gtrguy on October 19, 2023, 10:13:24 AM
If I didn't already have one I would be very interested. The Fernandes FAG (Fernandes Alembic Guitar) was pretty well built and I bet this could make a nice player.
Title: Re: Fernandes 170 6 string guitar
Post by: edwardofhuncote on October 19, 2023, 12:59:42 PM
Chris thinks that one may have been a prototype. I have never seen another Fernandes with the neck layup that is made to emulate the early Alembics. May be one, or twenty I just haven't seen it.


I have no need for it either, plenty happy with my Alembicized Japanese guitar... it's made a perfect counterpoint to the Lil Darling. Now if I could just figure out how to play the things!
Title: Re: Fernandes 170 6 string guitar
Post by: flavofive on October 20, 2023, 09:49:25 AM
I literally just finished restoring my FAG-170 earlier this week!  Had a dead pickup and needed to be Plek'd.  Works terrifically now.

What I don't get about this is that the current seller says that this "has been my 'Go To' guitar for nearly a decade in its current condition", and "I received the instrument like this almost 10 years ago".  But Reverb shows that this same guitar was sold just 3 years ago:
https://reverb.com/item/74687095-fernandes-170-w-vintage-nos-alembic-bridge-vintage-stratoblaster-with-custom-brass-parts-playable-project-guitar-mij-japan-rare (https://reverb.com/item/74687095-fernandes-170-w-vintage-nos-alembic-bridge-vintage-stratoblaster-with-custom-brass-parts-playable-project-guitar-mij-japan-rare)
They're clearly the same guitar, so I wonder what's going on.  Maybe the ad from 3 years ago was fake?  Doesn't really look like it though.

Nonetheless, the price was reduced to only $900, which seems pretty reasonable given the condition and non-original electronics.
I think the finish issues and neck laminate separation actually bother me less than the slightly-slanted pickups - driving my eyes a bit crazy  :o

Edward, you're right about the "reverse" neck laminates, I agree it's very cool.  There are others - in fact, one just sold on Reverb within the last week or two, coincidentally.
https://reverb.com/item/74429329-fernandes-fag-170-1980s-natural-alembic-copy (https://reverb.com/item/74429329-fernandes-fag-170-1980s-natural-alembic-copy)
But it definitely seems to be a rare option.  I don't know why they made some with the reverse laminates; I don't think the old Fernandes catalogs mentioned it as an option.
Title: Re: Fernandes 170 6 string guitar
Post by: lbpesq on October 20, 2023, 10:29:38 AM
I don't believe this left the factory with those pickups.  Looking at the sides of the humbuckers, it appears you can see the original route which had  Alembic-size single coils.  The routing on this looks to have been done with a Swiss Army knife!

Bill,tgo
Title: Re: Fernandes 170 6 string guitar
Post by: gtrguy on October 21, 2023, 09:53:33 AM
Yes, it's a bit of a chop job. Maybe someone could put one of those slanted humbuckers in there like the Gibson Nighthawk had (just kidding)! or a P90? No wait, a big brass pickup cover like Wolf had!

This may well be a prototype. What a fun project to do and you could build it the any way you wanted since it is no longer original.
Title: Re: Fernandes 170 6 string guitar
Post by: flavofive on October 21, 2023, 02:10:23 PM
Actually, that is a really good idea.  A Wolf/Tiger brass plate may seriously be the best option for this guitar.  Nice!
Title: Re: Fernandes 170 6 string guitar
Post by: edwardofhuncote on October 22, 2023, 04:41:40 AM
I saw it sold this morning after a price drop yesterday... anybody here got any Sunday mornin' 'fessin' up to do?  ;D

It's a cool project guitar... hacked-up enough that almost anything is an improvement. Absolutely, some brass or wood plates could hide a multitude of sins committed here.