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Title: Dual strap and heel positions
Post by: Mlazarus on September 19, 2022, 11:21:45 PM
I notice some series 1' and 2' have a dual strap connection. top lug and bottom, like the omegas. Can anyone tell me the advantages and disadvantages of each? The feel, angle, etc... because I'm thinking of having a bottom post placed on my 82 series 1. Also, what are the advantages of having the front top horn strap lug on the back heel like the Stanley Clarke basses?
Title: Re: Dual strap and heel positions
Post by: pauldo on September 20, 2022, 05:54:51 AM
My understanding is that different locations can help ease ‘neck dive’.   Many find that a wide strap that has minimal ‘slip’ is the most effective way of dealing with neck dive.

There was / is a member here who developed an ingenious instrument holding device that distributes the weight of the instrument away from the shoulders and upper back which makes it more comfortable AND less susceptible to neck dive.

  Richard…. Richard somebody… I have a prototype of it somewhere (we moved and things are still in boxes).  Very smart design.
Title: Re: Dual strap and heel positions
Post by: dannobasso on September 20, 2022, 06:06:49 PM
My Status Mark King 5 and 6 string models also have dual strap buttons. I find them a great option if I want to play the bass a little higher up.
Title: Re: Dual strap and heel positions
Post by: Mlazarus on September 20, 2022, 07:59:12 PM
I get neck dive using my 82' series 1 and my wide strap does not help. I think if i have Alembic place a strap bolt to the back of the bass when the heel is like the Stanley Clarke models, the strap will lay flat on my shoulder and not dig into my neck.
Title: Re: Dual strap and heel positions
Post by: adriaan on September 20, 2022, 10:22:16 PM
Moving the pin to the back of the neck is unlikely to help with the neck-dive. A duo-strap may help comfortwise. Wearing the bass more towards your right hip (left hip if you play left-handed) with your elbow pressing against the upper bout may help with neck-dive and with the stretch to the first fret
For a short-scale, this Stephen Jay video proposes a nifty solution:

(Didn't realize he moved the pin from the heel to the upoer horn, though.)
Title: Re: Dual strap and heel positions
Post by: Mlazarus on September 20, 2022, 11:49:47 PM
That is a great idea! so, i have an extra strap lock. I may try this technique.