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Title: Bat Bass Rises-The Completion Of A Great Series I
Post by: sonofa_lembic on July 08, 2022, 09:36:26 AM
Sure it is a whacky one, but I swear it is the best short scale Series 1 I have ever come in contact with.  This bass has been deemed the Bat Bass, but also called "Western", and even just plain ugly, but in person, none of that matters.  It is quite beautiful....or at least it is now that I have taken care of the mis matched cavity covers, bad setup, and incorrectly adjusted circuit gains.  It is no wonder why this bass sold three times in just a few months.  Once I got the bass on my bench, I discovered and corrected all of the issues, and what came out the other end was the best sounding SS Series 1 I can ever remember playing.  The bass is mint and a pleasure to play.  Last night until 1:30am I put the final touches on it by making the carbon fiber cavity covers.  They are light weight, fit the look of the bass, and beautiful!  The Bat is back baby!
Title: Re: Bat Bass Rises-The Completion Of A Great Series I
Post by: lbpesq on July 08, 2022, 10:43:02 AM
Really like the CF backplates.  How difficult is it to work with CF?

Bill,tgo
Title: Re: Bat Bass Rises-The Completion Of A Great Series I
Post by: sonofa_lembic on July 08, 2022, 10:55:44 AM
The worst part of the carbon Fiber is the itch.  Best to have good dust collection, a respirator, and a full body suit.  The carbon fiber plate is available in various thicknesses on Amazon, so it is easy to get, and only about $35.00 for a good sized plate large enough (500mmx400mmx2mm) to do this entire set of covers.  It cuts very well with a fine blade on a scroll saw, and is very easy to finalize the shape on a belt sander.  It drills well, and was easy to control the depth of the cut for the bolt head bevels.  It is also much stiffer than plastic and does not require sealing on the edges if sanded cleanly.  I really love the look of it on this particular bass since it has so many black accents.  You can get it in matte finish like I used, or gloss.  It comes with plastic film on it to protect the surfaces while working it.  A win all the way around, but I am still itching where I was not protected.  LOL.
Title: Re: Bat Bass Rises-The Completion Of A Great Series I
Post by: edwardofhuncote on July 08, 2022, 01:35:09 PM
What can you drill it with? I'm asking, because I use rod stock (from LMI) for reinforcement on warped upright necks after straightening. I'd like to drill a hole at each end for an anchor point.


Carbide, I guess?  ???
Title: Re: Bat Bass Rises-The Completion Of A Great Series I
Post by: sonofa_lembic on July 08, 2022, 01:51:43 PM
A good wood bit will work.  Just make sure it is not too worn.  I used a scroll saw to cut my plate, and by the end of my cuts, the teeth were all but worn off of my saw blade.
I am not sure you want to drill a hole in rod stock.  The fibers travel linearly in one direction, and are not strong if twisted or pulled on.  You should research it before you take on a major job like that. 
Title: Re: Bat Bass Rises-The Completion Of A Great Series I
Post by: edwardofhuncote on July 08, 2022, 02:41:39 PM
That's a great point I hadn't thought about... and might not be much benefit anyway. The stock I use is only 1/4" × 1/2" × 18".

*and the splinters from this stuff are a MISERABLE experience on the next level past bamboo shoots.

Congratulations on the Bat Bass. I wondered where it would end up next. That neck layup is a winner all day in my book!
Title: Re: Bat Bass Rises-The Completion Of A Great Series I
Post by: sonofa_lembic on July 08, 2022, 03:03:22 PM
Thanks!  The bass just needed to be in the right hands to get it working correctly.  It is a great one.
Title: Re: Bat Bass Rises-The Completion Of A Great Series I
Post by: rv_bass on July 08, 2022, 03:14:20 PM
Love that bass!  :)
Title: Re: Bat Bass Rises-The Completion Of A Great Series I
Post by: sonofa_lembic on July 08, 2022, 03:34:57 PM
Thanks!  Heading out to tonight's gig at the Heritage Square Music Festival now.  Taking the Bat Bass!
Title: Re: Bat Bass Rises-The Completion Of A Great Series I
Post by: garyhead on July 08, 2022, 03:39:11 PM
You need to find a Batman logo patch for your strap!  8)
Title: Re: Bat Bass Rises-The Completion Of A Great Series I
Post by: kilowatt on July 08, 2022, 04:05:24 PM
I imagine that working with the dust from the carbon fiber is similar to fiberglass particles. An old time insulator once told me you can put baby powder on your exposed skin, and wear a good mask, and you will be much happier. I have used his suggestion many times, with great results. May be worth a try with the carbon fiber.

Regards,
Pete
Title: Re: Bat Bass Rises-The Completion Of A Great Series I
Post by: sonofa_lembic on July 08, 2022, 09:49:50 PM
I used to do a lot of fiberglass lay up, and this carbon is an order of magnitude more itchy, almost to the point of painful.  The good thing is it is not toxic. 
Title: Re: Bat Bass Rises-The Completion Of A Great Series I
Post by: pauldo on July 09, 2022, 10:35:06 AM
Agreed the carbon fiber looks very nice on the Bat (and the suggestion of a Batman logo).  Congratulations!
Title: Re: Bat Bass Rises-The Completion Of A Great Series I
Post by: BeenDown139 on July 09, 2022, 02:16:39 PM
not to hijack the thread much further. 

just outta curiousity said the old retired geezer who still has access to the company shop with 2 big CO2 + fiber laser engravers and all the support do-dads - can you engrave/cut that carbon fiber stuff with an IR laser? without causing a hazmat situation? or an explosion?

i do plastic, stainless steel, brass, glass and painted metal all day long in these things, my work's in half the electrical panels in this town plus in all the public access areas in the new airport councourses.  it's more fun than a plasma cutter and a whole lot less messy.  but i digress...

freaking awesome bass!  just shows to go ya that one man's trash is another man's treasure. i've had a couple of series I's pass thru my hands that i just couldn't bond with.  the next owner down the line was pleased as punch with it so i'll call that a win-win.
Title: Re: Bat Bass Rises-The Completion Of A Great Series I
Post by: sonofa_lembic on July 09, 2022, 02:43:14 PM
I can't say whether a laser will work well with CF, but I suspect it would.  Remember CF is electrically conductive in case that matters.  The resin used in CF should be similar to that used for fiberglass, so probably not any more toxic when burned by the laser. 
Yes, this Series I was a good fit for me.  I like the shape, and I am not afraid of the eccentric design.  It looks great on stage anyway.  What I really like is a smart use of woods for great tone, and the very light weight for a Series bass.  A well balanced great player that sounds better than I ever thought it could as a short scale.  I did the first half of my gig last night with a different bass with EMG's in it, and then switched to the Bat Bass.  There was no comparison, and the Alembic literally destroyed the other bass.  This one is a winner for sure.
Title: Re: Bat Bass Rises-The Completion Of A Great Series I
Post by: sonofa_lembic on August 06, 2022, 11:36:22 AM
Now that I have a few gigs under my bat belt with the Bat Bass, I am convinced it is the best Series I have owned.  After the concert last night, the sound guy came over to me and thanked me for having a rig and bass that requires only plugging in to his direct box.  No need for him to fiddle to get the EQ right.  I knew part of that was the bass, but I also was running through my F1X which also has a lot to do with it.  I knew the bass was great when multiple audience members came up to me on the break, and commented on how amazing the bass sounded.  While i was playing, I could hear the "slap back" of the highs from the bass bouncing back to me on stage from the back of the outdoor venue.  It was indeed the perfect tone.  What really puzzles me is how full this bass sounds with an incredible commanding low end.  You would never guess it was a short scale.  The other thing I was very pleased with was the stability of the neck.  Outdoors in the humidity as evening rolled in, usually affects a neck so that it will tend to back bow.  This bass did not move at all, and played perfectly all evening long.  I knew Series basses were the shizzle for loud playing and massive concerts, but this one is just better than any I have played previously.  It must have been kismet that I found it or that it found me. 
Title: Re: Bat Bass Rises-The Completion Of A Great Series I
Post by: sonofa_lembic on August 06, 2022, 12:25:42 PM
Bat Bass Live!
Title: Re: Bat Bass Rises-The Completion Of A Great Series I
Post by: rv_bass on August 06, 2022, 01:39:29 PM
Fantastic!  The combination of mahogany and ebony must be just right in that bass.  Great photo too, a very cool looking bass :)

Regarding your rig, just wondering how many rack spaces is your Samson amp, and what do you have plugged into the second input on the F-1X?

Thanks for sharing and congrats on the convergence!
Title: Re: Bat Bass Rises-The Completion Of A Great Series I
Post by: sonofa_lembic on August 06, 2022, 01:56:27 PM
I run the Samson bridged to get the 4500 watts, which requires a specially wired Speakon cable.  The amp is 2 space.  The cable going to the second input is from my backup bass I have sitting on my guitar stand.  I leave it plugged in just in case something ever happens and I have to grab it in the middle of a song. 
Title: Re: Bat Bass Rises-The Completion Of A Great Series I
Post by: sonofa_lembic on August 06, 2022, 02:04:41 PM
Oh, and by the way, the neck recipe in this bass is mostly purple heart with the center stringers of mahogany.  Mica says it is a great tone combo.
Title: Re: Bat Bass Rises-The Completion Of A Great Series I
Post by: rv_bass on August 06, 2022, 03:02:43 PM
Very nice, thanks for the info, very cool! :)
Title: Re: Bat Bass Rises-The Completion Of A Great Series I
Post by: edwardofhuncote on August 06, 2022, 03:24:13 PM
Love that bass. And not surprised about the effect of that neck, especially on a short scale. Rigidity, yet, dampening warmth, melded together.


What's the significance of "Moon Pie"? I didn't think anybody outside of the Southeastern U.S. even knew about them! (if we're thinking about the same thing, that is...)
Title: Re: Bat Bass Rises-The Completion Of A Great Series I
Post by: rv_bass on August 06, 2022, 03:38:08 PM
Moon Pies are a delicacy in Maine, that along with Moxie.   :)
Title: Re: Bat Bass Rises-The Completion Of A Great Series I
Post by: StephenR on August 06, 2022, 04:24:35 PM

Bat bass is definitely cool looking, continue to play it in good health!

Moon pies were immortalized in song by NRBQ back in the 70s, Terry Adams grew up in Louisville... you can really hear the Monk influence in his playing on this track.
Title: Re: Bat Bass Rises-The Completion Of A Great Series I
Post by: edwardofhuncote on August 06, 2022, 04:27:34 PM
Moon Pies are a delicacy in Maine, that along with Moxie.   :)


No way - Maine?! Most enjoyed with an RC or a Nehi down here.


(for our friends elsewhere, Rob and me are talking about the cookie of all cookies... chocolate covered graham crackers and marshmallows, and soda-pop)
Title: Re: Bat Bass Rises-The Completion Of A Great Series I
Post by: sonofa_lembic on August 06, 2022, 04:38:16 PM
Love that bass. And not surprised about the effect of that neck, especially on a short scale. Rigidity, yet, dampening warmth, melded together.


What's the significance of "Moon Pie"? I didn't think anybody outside of the Southeastern U.S. even knew about them! (if we're thinking about the same thing, that is...)

I got that "Moon Pie" nickname after coming to a gig with a box of those for my fellow musicians to eat.  We all ended up giving each other funny names like Lester "Cornbread" Crawford, and Gemi 'Chitlins" Taylor.  I had mine immortalized in my custom leather strap.
Title: Re: Bat Bass Rises-The Completion Of A Great Series I
Post by: rv_bass on August 06, 2022, 05:51:45 PM
Cool nick name Story :)

…and my mistake, in Maine it’s the Whoopie Pie that is the specialty.

…and I love that NRBQ tune! :)
Title: Re: Bat Bass Rises-The Completion Of A Great Series I
Post by: edwardofhuncote on August 07, 2022, 10:53:57 AM
That's fantastic! I never dreamed Moon Pies were available beyond a bomb crater of here. I'll be the first to admit during my days as a performer I would gladly have swapped our string endorsement for a deal with Little Debbie. And probably come home from Nashville heavier than 145 lbs.


So glad to hear the Bat Bass is working again.  8)
Title: Re: Bat Bass Rises-The Completion Of A Great Series I
Post by: sonofa_lembic on August 07, 2022, 11:53:06 AM
Don't get me started on Goo Goos.....if you are in the know, those things are addicting!
Title: Re: Bat Bass Rises-The Completion Of A Great Series I
Post by: rv_bass on August 07, 2022, 12:52:06 PM
Goo Goos…I am intrigued!  :)
Title: Re: Bat Bass Rises-The Completion Of A Great Series I
Post by: sonofa_lembic on August 07, 2022, 01:35:41 PM
Behold, the Goo Goo Cluster!  A Nashville invention.
Title: Re: Bat Bass Rises-The Completion Of A Great Series I
Post by: rv_bass on August 07, 2022, 04:02:03 PM
Ooooooh, I’m heading to Nashville!  :)
Title: Re: Bat Bass Rises-The Completion Of A Great Series I
Post by: sonofa_lembic on August 07, 2022, 04:11:20 PM
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