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Title: What do you think of this mod to an Excel?
Post by: jazzyvee on August 16, 2021, 11:08:51 AM
https://www.bassic.de/kleinanzeigen/alembic-excel5-modded.12167/ (https://www.bassic.de/kleinanzeigen/alembic-excel5-modded.12167/)
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Title: Re: What do you think of this mod to an Excel?
Post by: StephenR on August 16, 2021, 11:12:12 AM
I think someone should have just bought a different bass in the first place.
Title: Re: What do you think of this mod to an Excel?
Post by: edwardofhuncote on August 16, 2021, 11:54:09 AM
Well. I'm with Stephen on that one.

"Y'all watch-iss... hold muh beer... gimme' dat' router."   ::)
Title: Re: What do you think of this mod to an Excel?
Post by: KR on August 16, 2021, 12:42:56 PM
Incongruous with a tort cherry on top--lol
Title: Re: What do you think of this mod to an Excel?
Post by: BeenDown139 on August 16, 2021, 12:46:08 PM
ick! 🤢
Title: Re: What do you think of this mod to an Excel?
Post by: gtrguy on August 16, 2021, 04:10:37 PM
It's not bad looking, but I think both parents must have suffered some in the birthing process.
Title: Re: What do you think of this mod to an Excel?
Post by: pauldo on August 16, 2021, 05:04:36 PM
It's not bad looking, but I think both parents must have suffered some in the birthing process.

I’m with David.   It looks alright, but why would you ever remove Alembic electronics???

Paul (who thinks Keith should get points for using ‘incongruous’)
Title: Re: What do you think of this mod to an Excel?
Post by: jazzyvee on August 16, 2021, 05:18:12 PM
Somehow i can't see the alembic staff seeing that and saying. 'Now why didn't we think about doing that?'
Title: Re: What do you think of this mod to an Excel?
Post by: BeenDown139 on August 16, 2021, 06:06:00 PM
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I’m with David.   It looks alright, but why would you ever remove Alembic electronics???

maybe the previous owner sat in with the wrong group of fellers and somebody handed him one of these:
Title: Re: What do you think of this mod to an Excel?
Post by: jacko on August 17, 2021, 12:40:43 AM
I like the contrast between the tort and the maple. Very nice. Up to the owner what he does with his instrument; maybe he liked the feel but not the tone. I remember there was such an uproar when Flea put a load of stickers on a vintage fender - his business, nobody else's IMO.

Graeme
Title: Re: What do you think of this mod to an Excel?
Post by: jazzyvee on August 17, 2021, 04:56:34 AM
Having replaced the electronics in one of my alembics a few years ago, i can't sit in judgement. However that change didn't give me what I thought I would get from those electronics, ( low cost series II type of sound), so I went back to standard and used the experience wisely.

But as muso's we generally are looking for a sound that represents us so in that sense nothing is really out of bounds and I guess that worked for the owner, for a while anyway.
It's the kind of bass that could quite easily be restored at a good luthiers if you wanted to get it back to standard but may be cheaper to buy a standard used one.
Title: Re: What do you think of this mod to an Excel?
Post by: keith_h on August 17, 2021, 08:47:26 AM
I can understand why someone might want to replace the electronics in an Alembic. They might really like the way the Alembic feels but prefer the sound of a different brand though not how its bass feels. Changing out the preamp and pickups becomes an economical choice in this situation. My personal opinion on doing things like this is they should be easily reversible as it is much harder to add wood back than to take it out but to each their own.   
Title: Re: What do you think of this mod to an Excel?
Post by: gtrguy on August 17, 2021, 09:53:50 AM
Modding instruments is a funny thing sometimes. I recently bought a used Fender Mustang shortscale PJ bass and switched over the controls to dual pot separate volume and tone controls; big improvement. Then I noticed that a Badass bridge I had lying around was a direct replacement for the stock lightweight bridge. I installed it and the bass sounded quite a bit worse. Logic told me that a heavier solid bridge should sound better than a stock cheap production bridge, but that was not the case. There must be a moral in this somewhere...
Title: Re: What do you think of this mod to an Excel?
Post by: Glynn on August 17, 2021, 02:36:13 PM
I sort of understand the temptation and wish to improve a bass but, as I am completely incompetent in these things, I take the easy route and enjoy what is presented to me by experienced guitar builders and if I don't like it then buy something else. Is that a too simplistic approach?
I have Alembic Orion 4 1999, Fender Victor Bailey Electro Acoustic, Fender BG 29 Electro Acoustic and Jaydee Custom 1986.  Not changed these for years and years. BUT......
ps. Just bought a used Hofner Violin HCT Contemporary bass for fun and to semi-shock the folk world which is a small part of my work.  Not a replacement but an addition!
Glynn     
Title: Re: What do you think of this mod to an Excel?
Post by: jazzyvee on August 17, 2021, 04:36:38 PM
Got any gigs coming up that i could pop down to see?
Title: Re: What do you think of this mod to an Excel?
Post by: jacko on August 18, 2021, 05:49:42 AM
Just to reinforce my opinion on modifying instruments, this is my 1979 Fender precision (some of you will have seen the photo before). Originally a tobacco sunburst it got some 'minor' modifications when a friend drove over his Rick. As well as the rick pups and scratchplate it's been drilled on the side to fit the rick'o'sound jack sockets and I've added the schaller bridge (not to mention stripping the sunburst). There's no way this instrument could be taken back to it's original state and to be perfectly honest I don't care. On the very rare occasion when I feel like playing a 4 string this bass still feels great. Yes, purists would likely tar and feather me and I've no doubt I've lost hundreds on any potential sale but it's my instrument and I have no intention of selling it.


Graeme



Title: Re: What do you think of this mod to an Excel?
Post by: jazzyvee on August 18, 2021, 10:30:27 AM
I can't see anything wrong with that.  Does it sound like a P bass or a Rick?
Not that I could easily identify either. :-)
Title: Re: What do you think of this mod to an Excel?
Post by: cozmik_cowboy on August 18, 2021, 11:58:00 AM
Just to reinforce my opinion on modifying instruments, this is my 1979 Fender precision (some of you will have seen the photo before). Originally a tobacco sunburst it got some 'minor' modifications when a friend drove over his Rick. As well as the rick pups and scratchplate it's been drilled on the side to fit the rick'o'sound jack sockets and I've added the schaller bridge (not to mention stripping the sunburst). There's no way this instrument could be taken back to it's original state and to be perfectly honest I don't care. On the very rare occasion when I feel like playing a 4 string this bass still feels great. Yes, purists would likely tar and feather me and I've no doubt I've lost hundreds on any potential sale but it's my instrument and I have no intention of selling it.


Graeme





It's a '79; no big.
Now if it was a '59........

Peter
Title: Re: What do you think of this mod to an Excel?
Post by: jacko on August 18, 2021, 02:07:42 PM

It's a '79; no big.
Now if it was a '59........

Peter

It would make no difference to me whether it was a 59 or not. If I had a desire to modify my instrument I would.

Graeme
Title: Re: What do you think of this mod to an Excel?
Post by: cozmik_cowboy on August 18, 2021, 07:53:03 PM

It's a '79; no big.
Now if it was a '59........

Peter

It would make no difference to me whether it was a 59 or not. If I had a desire to modify my instrument I would.

Graeme

As would I - but while I might well desire to mod a '79 (in fact, modding it would be a large reason to buy it), I wouldn't want to do anything irreversible to any Fender made '59-'65. 
Why?  Because by '59, Leo had made them as good as they would ever get, and by '66-'67 the Mark Of The CBS Beast was becoming apparent (which was - except for the large headstocks - actually far more a matter of QC than design changes).


Them there's my thoughts on the matter, anywho.


Peter (who will confess he started playing on a '66 Tele - that had been sprayed a hideous green by a previous owner, then stripped & tung-oiled by the guy who sold it to the guy who taught me.  And loved it!)
Title: Re: What do you think of this mod to an Excel?
Post by: Glynn on August 19, 2021, 04:03:28 AM
Will let you know when the Hofner makes an outing.
Title: Re: What do you think of this mod to an Excel?
Post by: Glynn on August 19, 2021, 04:07:22 AM
(my last post was a late reply to Jazzyvee)
Title: Re: What do you think of this mod to an Excel?
Post by: Glynn on August 19, 2021, 04:12:33 AM
I had the first chance to try the Hofner Contemporary at home today.  For the money and purpose it is outstanding value. The German ones are £2000 odd and the Ignition is super cheap at £300 but shows it.  Mine is £600 new and I bought it used in perfect condition at £375 from Bass Direct. I prefer the solid block inside to the hollow bodies.  Must stop playing "Come Together" though!!
Glynn