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Alembic products => Alembic Basses & Guitars => Topic started by: BassFishing1 on April 25, 2021, 07:26:30 PM

Title: Essence needs help. Restore or customize?
Post by: BassFishing1 on April 25, 2021, 07:26:30 PM
Hi All,

I’m new to the club.  I just bought a beat up Essence 4 string online (92K7148).  For some reason I am just drawn to basses that need help.  Previous owner removed the original pickups and electronics and rerouted it for an AXY pickup and a Spoiler pickup (not sure if those two are even compatible together).  They also removed the finish off the body and lost the nut height adjustment screws.

On the plus side the neck is straight and still has the original finish.  The way the bass sits now should I pay to restore  this bass or just have fun with it (I’m already into it for about $1000).  I may have overpaid, but it’s still a cool bass.  Plays nice unplugged.  Thought about adding some Aguilar pickups and electronics and just painting the body.  Maybe add a pickguard.  If the two Alembic pickups aren’t compatible together, maybe I just use one in the bridge position and try to get the alembic electronics to run it.

Let me know what you think.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Essence needs help. Restore or customize?
Post by: adriaan on April 26, 2021, 02:17:25 AM
Hi Robb, welcome to the Club!

A pickup from a Spoiler would be an AXY, so that would make a matching pair. The MXYs that were originally on this 92 Essence are essentially the same pickup, just that AXYs have an oversized shell.

The drill pattern may be different between MXY and AXY, and of course there should be threaded inserts for the pickup screws. I notice the neck pickup is tentatively mounted with three screws sticking out the top - there should one pair diagonally under the flange, the other two over. See https://club.alembic.com/index.php?topic=215.0 for the screw sizes.
Title: Re: Essence needs help. Restore or customize?
Post by: soflbass on April 26, 2021, 05:13:48 AM
It appears, from the picture, that the bridge routing was also enlarged, but offset from center. That will require removal of the inserts, Dowling of the holes, re-drilling of new holes, and new inserts. If you put an AXY pickup in the bridge position, it will leave a gap on one side. Looks like a fun project. Personally, I would add the Alembic electronics back into the bass and add a q switch.

Have fun!
Title: Re: Essence needs help. Restore or customize?
Post by: BassFishing1 on April 26, 2021, 06:20:25 AM
Thanks for the info!  Mica did confirm the pickups would be compatible as well, and gave me a quote on new electronics.  I’m going to go that route and get this back into original shape (with bigger pickups of course).  Thanks again!
Title: Re: Essence needs help. Restore or customize?
Post by: David Houck on April 26, 2021, 10:53:14 AM
Keep us updated on your project.

Depending on your budget, in addition to the new electronics, you might want to consider sending the bass to Alembic and have them refinish it as well; and if you do, I would recommend having them satin-finish the neck for a smooth fast feel.
Title: Re: Essence needs help. Restore or customize?
Post by: sonicus on April 26, 2021, 11:08:18 AM
BassFishsing1

              I my self as well am drawn to unfinished projects and the such , I have repaired some my self or have had the good fortune and the kindness from Alembic  and other highly skilled craftspeople to assist with my efforts and sometimes with very custom requests  to finish them for me :)
The Alembic Essence Bass has a place in my heart , as I am an owner as well of 4 String & 6 string models . In my opinion the Alembic Pickups and Electronics would be best suited for this instrument . I get nothing but Compliments from  sound techs at live and studio gigs regarding the sonic attributes of my Alembic instruments . :)  Happy restoration ! & congratulations !
Title: Re: Essence needs help. Restore or customize?
Post by: edwardofhuncote on April 26, 2021, 03:37:26 PM
I first came here almost 7 years ago with a similar story. With Mica's help, my bass got restored, and I was treated like I bought it new. Changed my life and perception of how basses should sound. Welcome to the Alembic Club.  :)
Title: Re: Essence needs help. Restore or customize?
Post by: pauldo on April 27, 2021, 04:47:36 AM
Threads like this should come with a warning...
Graphic Content.  :o

Robb, you have come to a good place for guidance.
Can’t wait to see the “after” pics.
Title: Re: Essence needs help. Restore or customize?
Post by: mario_farufyno on April 28, 2021, 06:30:02 AM
One vote for customize, turn it into a Essence Signature!
Title: Re: Essence needs help. Restore or customize?
Post by: edwin on April 30, 2021, 06:45:34 PM
Another vote for customize! Keep us posted on the progress. I think it's a great opportunity.
Title: Re: Essence needs help. Restore or customize?
Post by: BassFishing1 on May 15, 2021, 09:07:09 PM
Thanks for all the parts Mica and Mary!  Got this bass fully assembled and it sounds great!  Body still needs a refinish, but not that important to me.  It’s a players bass.  Perfect as is!
Title: Re: Essence needs help. Restore or customize?
Post by: gtrguy on May 16, 2021, 10:22:50 AM
Looking good!
Title: Re: Essence needs help. Restore or customize?
Post by: soflbass on May 16, 2021, 11:03:28 AM
Nice! Happy playing.
Now you can decide what to do with the finish.
Title: Re: Essence needs help. Restore or customize?
Post by: mario_farufyno on May 16, 2021, 11:29:51 AM
Happy to see it back on track, congrats.
Title: Re: Essence needs help. Restore or customize?
Post by: gearhed289 on May 17, 2021, 10:18:16 AM
Sudden change of heart?
https://reverb.com/item/40654207-1992-alembic-essence-4-bass-project-usa (https://reverb.com/item/40654207-1992-alembic-essence-4-bass-project-usa)
Title: Re: Essence needs help. Restore or customize?
Post by: hammer on May 17, 2021, 11:14:25 AM
If this bass has Alembic electronics as indicated it’s a good deal. I would think any informed player or luthier worth his/her salt could work that hum out and one would have a pretty nicer start Alembic.
Title: Re: Essence needs help. Restore or customize?
Post by: edwardofhuncote on May 17, 2021, 11:18:59 AM
If I only had some dad-gum time.
Title: Re: Essence needs help. Restore or customize?
Post by: sharkwagon on May 17, 2021, 12:39:41 PM
It reminds me of my "beater" Peavey TL5 that had the finish stripped off by a previous owner.  It's an amazing player and I bet the Epic is too.  Wish I had the funds* to pick it up

(*wife approved bass-capable funds)
Title: Re: Essence needs help. Restore or customize?
Post by: mica on May 17, 2021, 05:16:41 PM
Hum shouldn't be an issue if the shielding is still intact and the electronics are correctly installed.
Title: Re: Essence needs help. Restore or customize?
Post by: mario_farufyno on May 18, 2021, 05:28:26 AM
No ferrite beads detected but doesn't look the gentleman really wants it to play. Hope new owner care more about it.
Title: Re: Essence needs help. Restore or customize?
Post by: gearhed289 on May 18, 2021, 07:24:28 AM
It reminds me of my "beater" Peavey TL5 that had the finish stripped off by a previous owner.  It's an amazing player and I bet the Epic is too.  Wish I had the funds* to pick it up

(*wife approved bass-capable funds)

I picked up a TL-6 about a year and a half ago for next to nothing. Really great bass at any price. Neck is amazing.
Title: Re: Essence needs help. Restore or customize?
Post by: sharkwagon on May 18, 2021, 07:46:17 AM
Agreed, really well made instruments that are criminally under appreciated