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Title: 10" bass speakers?
Post by: cozmik_cowboy on June 05, 2020, 09:51:31 PM
In the immortal words of Dick Martin, I laugh on your mustache! HA!


Peter
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Post by: lbpesq on June 06, 2020, 01:21:23 AM
WOW!!!!   Where did they ever find a person that small???!!!!!!

hehehehe

Bill, tgo
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Post by: edwardofhuncote on June 06, 2020, 03:26:43 AM
:o
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Post by: gtrguy on June 06, 2020, 10:13:25 AM
Reminds me of the scene in Back to the Future with the guitar amp.
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Post by: edwardofhuncote on June 06, 2020, 11:20:55 AM
Reminds me of the scene in Back to the Future with the guitar amp.


I was thinking about that too David...  ;D





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Post by: hieronymous on June 06, 2020, 11:27:12 AM
Made me think of that scene in Spinal Tap!

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49977391078_059cbf9bb3_c.jpg)
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Post by: JimmyJ on June 06, 2020, 12:56:52 PM
Hieronymoius, exactly!  Excuse me for turning the thread but ... all those Spinal Tap bits were of course based on true stories.  That particular one where the Stonehenge props were sketched with " instead of ' was reportedly something that happened to Toto on one of their trips to Japan.  Jeff Porcaro, who was also a very good graphic artist, had drawn out what they wanted to be the backdrop for the band - that powerful looking sword with ornamental flourishes, etc, etc...  but he had marked the size in " instead of '.  When they got to Japan and the backdrop was flown in, the entire illustration was about 6 feet wide.   

Back on subject, I remember seeing some 30" (inch) EV speakers somewhere, I think they were built for movie theaters.  Gotta wonder about the specs of these enormous drivers.  7-28hz range perhaps?  Don't laugh, that's 3-octaves!  Ha!  But you'd need a "normal" subwoofer to cover the next couple octaves.

Jimmy J
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Post by: hieronymous on June 06, 2020, 01:20:30 PM
Hieronymoius, exactly!  Excuse me for turning the thread but ... all those Spinal Tap bits were of course based on true stories.  That particular one where the Stonehenge props were sketched with " instead of ' was reportedly something that happened to Toto on one of their trips to Japan.  Jeff Porcaro, who was also a very good graphic artist, had drawn out what they wanted to be the backdrop for the band - that powerful looking sword with ornamental flourishes, etc, etc...  but he had marked the size in " instead of '.  When they got to Japan and the backdrop was flown in, the entire illustration was about 6 feet wide.   

...

Jimmy J

Glad I was able to squeeze a story out of you! I also heard that Black Sabbath on their Born Again tour with Ian Gillan had a Stonehenge stage set (there was an instrumental with that title on the album) but it was too BIG! Many of the audience couldn't see the band!


EDIT: Decided to do some research after I posted, there is info out there, here is an article that talks about it, noting that it's likely that they actually happened around the same time but were completely unrelated!

https://dangerousminds.net/comments/life_imitates_comedy_spinal_tap_uncannily_anticipated_black_sabbaths (https://dangerousminds.net/comments/life_imitates_comedy_spinal_tap_uncannily_anticipated_black_sabbaths)
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Post by: bigredbass on June 06, 2020, 03:21:35 PM
As regards that first picture in OP, I HOPE those are locking casters . . . . .
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Post by: elwoodblue on June 06, 2020, 03:37:28 PM
 Here's a helluva stack...
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Post by: lbpesq on June 06, 2020, 04:04:07 PM
Several years ago I attended an Alembic Gathering at the Bag End factory in Chicago.  They had some bass speakers there that were, IIRC, about 23".   As a guitar player, they scared me off!

And thanks, Harry and Jimmy.  Any thread is inherently improved with a Spinal Tap reference.  Turn it to 11!

Bill, tgo (who if he hadn't gone to law school might have been a haberdasher)
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Post by: rv_bass on June 06, 2020, 04:42:50 PM
Neil Young and Crazy Horse...Bill, guitar players have big speaker cabs too!  :)


Harry, Jimmy, looks like they got the drawing scale right  on these. :)

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Post by: garyhead on June 06, 2020, 05:46:15 PM


Back on subject, I remember seeing some 30" (inch) EV speakers somewhere, I think they were built for movie theaters.  Gotta wonder about the specs of these enormous drivers.  7-28hz range perhaps?  Don't laugh, that's 3-octaves!  Ha!  But you'd need a "normal" subwoofer to cover the next couple octaves.

Jimmy J
  Hey Jimmy J.... I Have Two of those MCA "Earthquake" subwoofers and am now using them in my home stereo!  They are 18" Cerwin Vega drivers in a reverse K cabinet.  The cabinet was 48" x 48" x 20" and tuned for an 8Hz Square Wave!  Each sub was driven by a 360W Cerwin Vega Amp.  They were purchased from the Admiral Theater in Seattle in the 80's and a friends band humped them around to gigs for awhile until they thought lugging the old Hammond & Leslie was easier on their backs!

I tired of looking at these 4' x 4' monsters in the living room (yes, no wife) and made 2' x 2' x 2' cubes with granite tops for damping.  I am driving then with 360W monoblocks with a crossover at 28Hz.  Biggest problem I've had with them are the plates rattling in the kitchen cabinets....but whew-wee when a movie has a jet landing onscreen!
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Post by: lbpesq on June 06, 2020, 06:22:27 PM
Neil Young and Crazy Horse...Bill, guitar players have big speaker cabs too!  :)


That looks like it may be from the Rust Never Sleeps tour.  I saw the Cow Palace show in San Francisco.  I believe it was the late 70’s.  As I recall, the Dead were doing a 4 or 5 night run and we took one of the nights off to check out Neil.


Bill, tgo
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Post by: rv_bass on June 06, 2020, 06:59:28 PM
Neil Young and Crazy Horse...Bill, guitar players have big speaker cabs too!  :)


That looks like it may be from the Rust Never Sleeps tour.  I saw the Cow Palace show in San Francisco.  I believe it was the late 70’s.  As I recall, the Dead were doing a 4 or 5 night run and we took one of the nights off to check out Neil.


Bill, tgo


I saw them at MSG in NY that tour in 1978.  I saw them again a few years ago at the Boston Garden and they had the same stage set up...great show, no frills, just solid straight ahead Rock and Roll :)
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Post by: rv_bass on June 06, 2020, 07:02:29 PM
...oK, I’m still trying to figure out the quote thing :)
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Post by: adriaan on June 07, 2020, 02:19:53 AM
...oK, I’m still trying to figure out the quote thing
Just make sure you respond after the [ / quote] thingy.
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Post by: pauldo on June 07, 2020, 02:48:56 AM
Several years ago I attended an Alembic Gathering at the Bag End factory in Chicago.  They had some bass speakers there that were, IIRC, about 23".   As a guitar player, they scared me off!

And thanks, Harry and Jimmy.  Any thread is inherently improved with a Spinal Tap reference.  Turn it to 11!

Bill, tgo (who if he hadn't gone to law school might have been a haberdasher)

That was a 4 x 21” cabinet that Bag End designed.   If memory serves me they found 21” to be the perfect size for maintaining a tight response.

I do remember bumping a low D and feeling it from my nose to my toes!  Talk about going to my happy place.  😄
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Post by: rv_bass on June 07, 2020, 04:27:39 AM
...oK, I’m still trying to figure out the quote thing
Just make sure you respond after the [ / quote] thingy.


Thanks, Adriaan!