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Title: Newly completed konig 15 string bass
Post by: garth4664 on July 23, 2019, 04:49:26 AM
I thought the Alembic family might like the look of my new 15 string bass. This thing is a work of art by Tom Konig who personally designed and made every part of this bass except the machine heads. The Japanese writing on the fingerboard says dream catcher. The script on the body is konig. Side leds are little Japanese flags with glowing red suns. The bass is stereo with low pass filter based circuits. Sound is immensely immense. Requires some skill and effort to play :) Tom learned to gold plate just for this bass and the hardware is a whole new level (check out the bridge!)

Title: Re: Newly completed konig 15 string bass
Post by: garth4664 on July 23, 2019, 04:51:08 AM
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Post by: garth4664 on July 23, 2019, 04:53:15 AM
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Post by: garth4664 on July 23, 2019, 04:53:55 AM
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Post by: garth4664 on July 23, 2019, 04:54:40 AM
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Post by: jazzyvee on July 24, 2019, 12:02:48 AM
NIce looking bass.  It looks extremely close to an alternate design to the classic look that a member here posted drawings of here many years back. Is that where the inspiration for this one came from?
Title: Re: Newly completed konig 15 string bass
Post by: garth4664 on July 24, 2019, 02:05:40 AM
Hello jazzy, that member may have been me if you are referring to the dream catcher thread in the dreaming for now section :) the bass outline started with that alternative design and evolved as we prototyped some mock up bodies.
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Post by: jazzyvee on July 24, 2019, 04:05:35 AM
Nice I remember that and liked the design and I guess the upper horn grew longer for balance reasons.
Title: Re: Newly completed konig 15 string bass
Post by: garth4664 on July 24, 2019, 04:21:02 AM
Thanks Jazzy, yes a combination of physical balance and visual balance with the wide 15 string neck caused some subtle changes to both horns and made the top one a fair bit longer. From the back there’s almost a heart omega in the top horn too. 
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Post by: gearhed289 on July 24, 2019, 07:08:07 AM
That is quite an amazing beast! Low B or high C?
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Post by: jwright9 on July 24, 2019, 08:18:36 AM
How does it sound? How does it play? I would love to hear it in action. Please post some audio or video.
Cool bass. Thanks for sharing.

Title: Re: Newly completed konig 15 string bass
Post by: garth4664 on July 24, 2019, 12:54:36 PM
Hello Gearhed, that’s a low B. The two octave strings give it a lot of punch. I will tidy up my chops over the upcoming weeks and try to post some sound. J9 it plays really well, about as physical as a well set up double bass. The biggest challenge is muting the non playing strings and cleaning up your technique to stop stray notes coming through. It’s definitely a level harder than a 12 string to keep the groove clean. Thanks for the comments, Tom Konig is on Facebook and has a website if you want to say hello - he’s an extraordinary luthier and a very nice guy.
Title: Re: Newly completed konig 15 string bass
Post by: jazzyvee on July 25, 2019, 01:46:41 AM
Is there a reason for your choice of location of the octave strings. I notice yours are above each of the main strings and I have seen that some basses have them below and others above.
Title: Re: Newly completed konig 15 string bass
Post by: garth4664 on July 25, 2019, 03:52:41 AM
Hello jazzy, I think it works better this way the plucking finger strikes the bass string first, but if you used a pick then I’m not sure it would be. Both of my 12s were also this way, so maybe octave strings on top is the conventional way to do it? I’m sure you could also learn to play the other way around though. The reality is that it’s not hard to play, it’s just hard to play well :)
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Post by: jazzyvee on July 25, 2019, 04:08:38 AM
Makes sense. What kind of band and music do you play those kind of basses in?
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Post by: gearhed289 on July 25, 2019, 08:04:51 AM
Is there a reason for your choice of location of the octave strings. I notice yours are above each of the main strings and I have seen that some basses have them below and others above.

Most multi-course basses have the octave strings on top. The only exception I'm aware of is Rickenbacker, who put the fundamental sting on top. I'm sure there are others like that, but if there's a "standard", it's octaves on top. My first 8 string bass (parts bass - Warmoth neck, Mighty Mite body) was set up "Ric-style", which seemed to make sense on paper, but it turned out to be a little awkward for me on the fretting hand. I find it easier to hold the strings down with standard stringing. My current Ric 8 string has been reversed to standard and it's a breeze to play.
Title: Re: Newly completed konig 15 string bass
Post by: Deltaphoenix on July 25, 2019, 09:48:54 AM
This bass makes think of an Alembic Series 1 with Carl Thompson horns and Larry Graham styling.

Gorgeous bass - Enjoy.
Title: Re: Newly completed konig 15 string bass
Post by: cozmik_cowboy on July 25, 2019, 02:34:39 PM
Most multi-course basses have the octave strings on top. The only exception I'm aware of is Rickenbacker, who put the fundamental sting on top.

The same holds for 12-string guitars.

Peter
Title: Re: Newly completed konig 15 string bass
Post by: edwardofhuncote on July 26, 2019, 02:30:13 AM
I think the headstock is a telling detail... it takes a fair amount of planning to lay out a headstock so the strings pull over the nut somewhat straight, and lay parallel to each other. This one must have been really tricky. Very nice work.


Did I miss it somewhere, or can I just ask, what wood was used?


Thanks for sharing.  :)
Title: Re: Newly completed konig 15 string bass
Post by: garth4664 on July 26, 2019, 06:30:20 AM
Hello guys, thanks for the kind words, I’ll let Tom know the feedback. Jazzy I currently only gig with a David Bowie tribute act, this one may not get on stage... perhaps I need to get something else going? The body wood is alder I think, the neck maple, Birdseye maple fingerboard and pickup covers, lots of carbon reinforcements through the neck, the tension is enormous. Edward you are right on the planning, it took over two years to work this bass out. I doubt there is another 15 string in the world as playable as this. My Konig 12 was so much better than my USA Hamer that I stopped playing the hamer completely.